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Author Topic: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds  (Read 8334 times)

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Offline freshair

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how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« on: June 09, 2006, 01:37:07 AM »
just wanting to get a full std checkup 13 weeks after last sexual activity
im wondering how conclusive it will be for the various stds whcih i'll be checked for

7 weeks afterwards i had tested neg for clhamdyia, syphilis,  and gonnorhea so are those needed now at 13 weeks

thanks
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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2006, 01:56:34 AM »
Freshair,

Gonorrhea
The incubation period for Gonorrhea is usually 2 to 7 days.

Chlamydia
The incubation period for Chlamydia is usually 2 to 6 weeks, but can be longer.

Syphilis
The incubation period for Syphilis is usually 10 to 90 days.

HIV
The window period for HIV is usually 2 weeks to 3 months, but most commonly 4-6 weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being 22 days.

Hepatitis A
The incubation period for Hepatitis A is 15 to 50 days.

Hepatitis B
The incubation period for Hepatitis B is usually 45-180 days, with an average of 60 to 90 days.

Hepatitis C
The incubation period for Hepatitis C ranges from 2 weeks to 6 months - commonly, 6 to 9 weeks.

A full std panel at 13 weeks will almost always catch everything.

Morgan

« Last Edit: June 09, 2006, 01:58:26 AM by Morgan »
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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2006, 06:36:36 AM »
Fresh,

I'd like to remind you that you were never at risk for hiv infection.

Syphilis shares a three month window period with hiv, but as with hiv, a seven week test most likely would have picked it up if you were infected with syphilis.

I'd like to ask you to read through the Welcome Thread. Please pay particular attention to the posting guidelines about which forums you may post in. Thank you.

Please remember to use condoms for intercourse and be careful when practicing frottage. It can be all to tempting to slip it in for a few moments without a condom on. Frottage is safe as far as hiv is concerned, provided you don't get carried away without a condom on.

You're going to be just fine, OK?

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2006, 03:15:01 AM »
i'm wondering why you say it's no risk. what if there was a minute amount of blood on the outside of his anus and i grazed it? i dont think that's likely but it certainly seems like a possibility. i dont intend to be rude in challenging your assertions; i just want to understand.
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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2006, 05:47:49 AM »
You grazed your ass? Hmm, my ass never took a liking to grass. You didn't have a risk, and there is nothing to worry about.

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2006, 07:18:57 AM »
fresh,

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus. Successful transmission normally occurs INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse or injecting hiv infected blood directly into your bloodstream when sharing drug injecting equipment.

Frottage takes place outside the body. Minute changes in temperature, moisture and pH levels are sufficient to damage the fragile membrane that surrounds the hiv virus as well as damage the "plugs" it uses to attach itself to specific cells in order to infect a new host. The specific cells hiv must bump into to infect are found in specific places - such as inside the rectum, vagina or urethra. Hiv is not going to find its way into these areas, in an undamaged and viable state, during frottage. I say "bump into" because hiv has no mechanism to move around and seek out the specific cells it needs. It's purely a chance encounter when hiv does manage to find the correct cells.

Frottage is not a risk for hiv infection. If it were, we'd be shouting it from the rooftops.

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2006, 04:16:51 PM »
i just now got a negative result for hiv and syphilis for my test taken precisely 90 days since my last sexual encounter. how wrong would i be in believing 100% that i don't have hiv?
you do not need to leave your room. remain sitting at your table and listen. do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still, and solitary. the world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstacy at your feet. -- kafka

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2006, 04:22:40 PM »
You would be 100% correct in believing the test. Not only is a test at 90 days considered definitive, but

you were NEVER at risk in the first place.

I submit that if that second piece of information escapes you, you will be doomed to go through this again.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2006, 04:33:41 PM »
no way, not me. this experience has beat into my head the importance of condoms and the reality of it all. i will never have sex without a condom. mark my words.

ii have tons of respect for ann but i can't quite believe that it was no risk based on the idea that the virus is destroyed due to minute changes in temeperature.
you do not need to leave your room. remain sitting at your table and listen. do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still, and solitary. the world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstacy at your feet. -- kafka

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2006, 05:39:09 PM »
no way, not me. this experience has beat into my head the importance of condoms and the reality of it all. i will never have sex without a condom. mark my words.

ii have tons of respect for ann but i can't quite believe that it was no risk based on the idea that the virus is destroyed due to minute changes in temeperature.

Well believe it babe, because it's true. HIV is extraordinarily intolerant of changes in it's preferred environment. Why would we make this stuff up? Remember the information we provide is peer reviewed, boffin approved, egghead certified science.

If you doubt that read Welcome Thread again.

MtD

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2006, 08:49:10 PM »
You're free to believe in whatever you choose.

But the HIV science-based truth is that you were never at risk to begin with.  And there was never a need for HIV testing.

So disbelieve what you're told as much as you like. You've been given the real deal here. If that doesn't cut it for you, that's all there is, there isn't anymore.

Cheers, 
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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2006, 12:55:43 AM »
it just seemed to me like a fresh blood source from the body, coming from his anus area (which is somewhat sheltered) would still be able to transmit...that's why i thought there was a risk.

you do not need to leave your room. remain sitting at your table and listen. do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still, and solitary. the world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstacy at your feet. -- kafka

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2006, 04:36:11 AM »
i'm sorry if i came across as rude at any point, because i admire this forum and how it enlightens people

i'm posting now, however, because i'm having trouble getting rid of the paranoia, the nagging doubt that it is possible i got hiv from this experience--so i just wanted to ask this: how rare would it be for my 3 month negative to change? I read that in the UK this window period hasn't failed once in 10 years of observation. Mainly I'm just seeking finality over this. I don't intend on becoming a worry wart. This experience has done a number on me, which I suppose is a sign of how maladjusted I am at this point in my life. OK. Thanks.
you do not need to leave your room. remain sitting at your table and listen. do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still, and solitary. the world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstacy at your feet. -- kafka

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2006, 06:17:16 AM »
fresh,

Your conclusive negative result is not going to change.

If you continue to have trouble accepting your negative status, please seek the assistance of a mental health care professional to help you come to terms with your negative hiv status. We cannot do that for you here - you must seek face-to-face help and support.

You are hiv negative. Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will continue to avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2006, 06:24:29 AM »
i'm still trying to drop the irrational fear...i was curious about a couple things though:

my test at 90 days was the non-rapid kind done at a LabCorps, I think. I didn't ask many questions when I was there--the lady simply told me i tested negative without showing me any papers or anything. My view of humanity is pretty low, though, or I'm just hyper-paranoid because I'm thinking things like what if she told me i was negative even though it was positive---or what if they messed up my test somehow---or what if im that very rare person to have a seroconversion delayed past 3 months

Just trying to stop myself from thinking these things all the time. Thanks.
you do not need to leave your room. remain sitting at your table and listen. do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still, and solitary. the world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstacy at your feet. -- kafka

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2006, 06:31:08 AM »
fresh,

Your conclusive negative result is not going to change.

If you continue to have trouble accepting your negative status, please seek the assistance of a mental health care professional to help you come to terms with your negative hiv status. We cannot do that for you here - you must seek face-to-face help and support.

You are hiv negative. Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse and you will continue to avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple.

Ann
Condoms are a girl's best friend

Condom and Lube Info  



"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2006, 07:34:03 PM »
what happens when your initial non-rapid blood test is positive? do they request more blood from you or do they just confirm it with the same vial of blood? I'm just trying to check the possibility that they messed my test up, or lied to me about my results.

do you still assert that i never needed testing in the first place because it was just frottage and, while i came close to penetrating his anus, i didn't? how far inside the head of the penis does the blood need to go to infect someone (this is moot, though, since i'm uncut)? even if it was fresh blood on the outside/periphery of his anus, it was pretty much instantly be incapable of infecting me due to changes in the environment? thanks
you do not need to leave your room. remain sitting at your table and listen. do not even listen, simply wait, be quiet, still, and solitary. the world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked, it has no choice, it will roll in ecstacy at your feet. -- kafka

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Re: how conclusive is a 13 week test for various stds
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2006, 07:45:50 PM »
Read the "Welcome Thread" at the top of this forum. This is getting ridiculous and you are just not comprehending anything. You can also drop all of the "What ifs" while you're at it.

 


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