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Offline GSOgymrat

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Personal trainer
« on: November 27, 2006, 12:08:09 AM »
After 20 years of working out I finally decided to buy some sessions with a personal trainer. I took a weight training class back in college when I first started lifting weights but I have always wanted to try a personal trainer. I feel like my workouts are in a rut and my gym advertised a holiday special: 4 thirty-minute sessions for $99. So I'm scheduled for an evaluation Wednesday. I don't know anyone at my gym so I just picked this guy named Martinez who I have seen training other people. He is certified, has years of experience and is enormous. I'm looking for a new routine that will get me off the plateau I'm on and help me make some strength and size gains. I also need help on my form with free weight exercises, particularly squats. I'm excited but a little nervous, so wish me luck.

Offline Longislander

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2006, 12:25:33 AM »
You're obviously in great shape, so I don't think you'll have any trouble. You'll no doubt feel the difference after those 4 sessions, but good luck and enjoy it.

Oh, and once you've attained a new body, can you send me your old one?? ;D
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Offline LatinAlexander

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2006, 06:15:07 AM »
Ok, Go it...I need to exercise...If you are in a body-shopping spree, I need a full Blackfriday to get my new body :D:D

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Offline thunter34

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2006, 07:41:27 AM »
Good luck, Ford! But you're already so devilishly handsome...
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2006, 11:29:37 AM »
I used to workout in this gym in the West Village (Manhattan) and there was this FINE looking trainer there for a while and I kept contemplating hiring him but never did (intimidated me... he was that great).  Years later I really regretted it because I started seeing him on all of these (ok, albeit straight) covers of porn movies.  He must have moved to LA and started a huge new career!  I even bought one just to see what his cock looked like.

*sigh*

anyway, good luck with the workouts.
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline pozguy75

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2006, 02:46:43 PM »
Um...I can help you with some of those "size gains" ;D hehehe, I love being dirty!! hehehehe

Baby, I am sure you will be rocking awesome! You look fantastic now, I can't wait to see the new you soon!
Dx 2005
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Offline heartforyou

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2006, 02:54:58 PM »
Make sure you write down some of his tips.

Make a list of the excercises and muscles you want to improve.
Ask im about nutrition.

And be sure you have warmed up before starting the workout.
Saves time.

Good luck and have fun.

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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2006, 08:16:38 AM »
I had my first session with the personal trainer. Right from the start I was very uncomfortable because he immediately begins talking about how lean I am and asking what am I doing to keep my body fat so low. I was pleading fast metabolism when of course the reality is it's HIV and lipoatrophy. He took my weight and body fat, which was 175 lbs and 10%. Another trainer came in and they start talking about how I'm one of the leanest guys in the gym, how I'm 40 years old and I'm this lean without dieting, that I should compete in bodybuilding competitions, etc. I know they were trying to be complimentary but I just felt like quitting the gym. It was apparent my lipoatrophy is making me stand out, which just feeds my insecurities. I had to keep reminding myself that I'm not going to let HIV get in the way of what I want to do.

We spent a lot of time talking about nutrition and diet. He wants me to eat like a competitive bodybuilder, which is not going to happen. I'm just not going to eat 15 egg whites for breakfast, avoid all fats, etc. Also there is no way I can eat a strict diet with my partner around because he's not going to diet and he'll  be pissed if I don't eat with him. He has always thought my going to the gym is a waste of time anyway. I am going to eat more protein, cut down on the sugar, give up the fast food (goodbye McRib :'() and eat more frequently but I'm not a competitive bodybuilder and don't want to be one.

The best part is now that we have that part out of the way we can focus on creating a new workout and using proper form. He had me do some squats and gave me some good corrections and tips. I am looking forward to the next session and I'm feeling motivated.

Offline Oh501sguy

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2006, 09:14:59 AM »
Thanks for the reminder that I need to get back to the gym.  I will go...TODAY!

As far as giving up fast food, thats easy, but for the McDonalds Egg buscuits!

Chuck

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2006, 03:08:39 PM »
OMG!!!!   Thank you!

Because of this post I went to the gym today.  Because I went to the gym today I got into a HEAVY
CRUISING session with this HOT guy!

The good old fashion cruising.   Im going back for more!   ( OH YEA...and to work out too!)

  Somebody was actually interested!  It's nice to feel human again!

Thanks!!!!!  Chuck

Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2006, 03:20:28 PM »
I'm always glad to help someone get laid.  ;)

Offline poet

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2006, 07:35:29 PM »
To Philly, yes, we also had David Barton in NYC who married the party scene woman and had a little David Barton boy.  Don't they understand, when they locate in Chelsea or the West Village, that they need to think about other options in life? :) Win
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Offline Iggy

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2006, 12:00:37 PM »
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« Last Edit: January 10, 2007, 09:01:05 PM by Iggy »

Offline wellington

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2006, 12:44:40 PM »
Being perceived as one of the leanest guys in the gym is a definite compliment, take it in that vein bud. I'm sure you'll find a way to break through your current barriers without downing a dozen egg whites a day. Can't wait to see next year's WeHo pix ;)

Offline Longislander

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2006, 01:21:33 PM »
I just want to throw this in there for you. I saw those pics of you on vacation at the beach, and trust me, I was NOT thinking lipo-! ;)
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2006, 06:38:12 PM »
As my first trainer taught me the gym is your time and your time alone - it's not about the how you look for anyone else, or what someone else looks like (as you might compare yourself to) - forget the job, the family, the bills - let go of everything that has no business being in your mind when you step into the gym.

The real problem isn't that I think I look bad it's this insecurity about this "dark secret" getting revealed by my appearance. Normally I'm fine but when people make comments about the veins in my arms (I work with nurses who eye my arms like vampires) or start asking me about my weight I become totally self-conscious. Part of me just wants to shout "Yes, I have AIDS! It's called lipoatrophy and I can't help it!" It's funny because when I'm in West Hollywood, where people know what it is and there are other people walking around with lipo, the insecurity is gone. That's why I relate to X-Men comic books, I'm like a mutant who is afraid people are going to find out he can walk through walls.

Offline thunter34

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2006, 09:55:00 PM »
I just want to throw this in there for you. I saw those pics of you on vacation at the beach, and trust me, I was NOT thinking lipo-! ;)

Um...Hey, Ford?  Could I, um.....could I see those pics, too?  Just wonderin'.

~+


PS-  Dunno if you are into protein shakes, but I love the EAS Strawberry Cream Myoplex Shakes...and they are loaded to the hilt with protein, have low carbs and they DON'T taste like cardboard or chalk!  Woo-hoo!  They might seem a bit expensive. but not really if you think of them in the context of being a meal on their own.  I absolutely love 'em! 
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #17 on: December 04, 2006, 01:57:16 AM »
Um...Hey, Ford?  Could I, um.....could I see those pics, too?  Just wonderin'.

~+


PS-  Dunno if you are into protein shakes, but I love the EAS Strawberry Cream Myoplex Shakes...and they are loaded to the hilt with protein, have low carbs and they DON'T taste like cardboard or chalk!  Woo-hoo!  They might seem a bit expensive. but not really if you think of them in the context of being a meal on their own.  I absolutely love 'em! 

I think this is the photo he is referring to. Ford goes native in a $3 Brazillian bikini. I have tried the EAS shakes and they are good if a little pricey.


Offline Oh501sguy

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #18 on: December 04, 2006, 02:48:41 PM »
Damn... after that picture... I think I just creamed my jeans!

Offline ademas

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #19 on: December 04, 2006, 03:39:04 PM »
I can't really tell much from that picture, GSO...
perhaps if you posted a few dozen more?
Thank you in advance.   :-*

Offline Queen Tokelove

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2006, 03:58:45 PM »
Man, they say everyone has a twin out there...You look like my one friend Max, I'm gonna have to show him your pic, it will trip him out....
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2006, 05:54:56 PM »
Nice avatar picture Queen Akasha. You're a beautiful woman. :)

Offline Longislander

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2006, 06:05:56 PM »
like I said...........
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4/07   507/35,000 25%            7/08 625/UD/34%
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Offline Queen Tokelove

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2006, 08:43:30 PM »
Nice avatar picture Queen Akasha. You're a beautiful woman. :)

Thanks GSO and LongIslander....
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6/4/08 CD4- 775 VL- undetectable
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11/13/08 CD4- 774 VL--undetectable
2/4/09  CD4- 484  VL- 18,000 (2 months off meds)
3/3/09---Starting Back on Meds---
4/27/09 CD4- 664 VL-- undetectable
6/17/09 CD4- 438 VL- 439
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2006, 05:17:53 AM »
So I completed my sessions with my trainer, Martinez, and I'm happy with his recommendations and my new workout routine. He gave me a lot of good advice and pointed out mistakes I was making in my workout. From the beginning he had tried to persuade me to compete in a bodybuilding competition. He and some of the other trainers insisted I should talk to their boss, Damian, who organizes and judges natural bodybuilding competitions. Several trainers said Damian is a tell-it-like-it-is, no nonsense kinda guy and would give me an honest assessment. Out of curiosity I decided to see the guy.

Damian first asked me if competing was my idea or my trainer's. I said it was definitely my trainer's and that I knew nothing about competing but was curious as to how this all worked. He explained there were two categories: bodybuilders and natural bodybuilders. The natural bodybuilders don't use steroids or other muscle enhancing drugs and that most regular bodybuilders use "juice". Call me naive but I was very surprised at how open steroid use apparently is. I pointed out to Damian that unprescribed steroid use is illegal and he looked at me with surprise and said "that's true but it's just an open fact of bodybuilding." He's a natural bodybuilder and said to compete you not only have to take a drug test but also a polygraph. Since I have never even drank a beer or smoked a joint I said that natural would be the only thing of interest to me.

Then he unceremoniously told me to strip down to my shorts and show him what I had. :o We were in an office with an open door to the gym, which was kinda disconcerting. He had me flex and I quickly learned that I don't know how to pose. He said my arms and shoulders were good, my upper chest needed work, my upper back was good but my lats could be thicker, my quads and calves were good but my hamstrings were flat and that I needed to do more heavy squats. Having my body critiqued was odd but I was really glad to get an objective opinion from an expert. He said I definitely had potential and that he would be happy to help me if I wanted to compete. He gave me his card and wrote down some websites so I could learn more about the competitions. I told him I would think about it.

I mulled it over for a few days and decided I want to give it a shot and compete in a natural bodybuilding competition in High Point, NC in June. I will be competing in the "novice" category with other new competitors. My trainer thinks I have a shot at winning because it's novice and natural-- I wouldn't stand a chance against the "juiced" guys. I've had a social phobia of being in front of an audience for years so the idea of getting up on a stage with next to nothing on and having people critique my body is particularly terrifying. That is one reason why I want to do it, to face my fear. Another big reason is because it will motivate me to take my workouts to another level and improve my eating habits. Yet another reason is because when I look back on my life I don't regret the things I did nearly as much as the things I didn't try.

I've yet to tell my partner of my decision because I don't think he's going to be supportive. He's going to see this as pointless and a waste of time. You would think having a partner who is into bodybuilding would be a good thing! So wish me luck and I'll let you know how this turns out.

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2006, 07:17:23 AM »
GSO~~

Good Luck sweetie. I bet you will do great, novice or not. You are doing this for you, I would hope your bf would be supportive and not selfish. I would take the pro's critique with pride, he said you have potential, that's a start. I have seen your pic, I think you're great, now come here and let me bounce a quarter off your booty... ;D
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2/6/08 CD4- 401 VL- undetectable
5/7/08 CD4- 705 VL- undetectable
6/4/08 CD4- 775 VL- undetectable
8/6/08 CD4- 805 VL- undetectable
11/13/08 CD4- 774 VL--undetectable
2/4/09  CD4- 484  VL- 18,000 (2 months off meds)
3/3/09---Starting Back on Meds---
4/27/09 CD4- 664 VL-- undetectable
6/17/09 CD4- 438 VL- 439
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01-22-10-- CD4- 525 VL- 59,000
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Offline JohnOso

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2006, 08:12:18 AM »
Ford,

Perhaps your partner feels like the bodybuilding is something that may drive a wedge between you two, or that you might even find someone else who IS into bodybuilding.  Without knowing the dynamics between you both, it's hard to say offhand.  :-\

I'd really be interested in hearing your thoughts and observations while going thru the competitive process, if you have the time to jot them down in the Forum from time to time. 

Take care,
John

Offline Longislander

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #27 on: December 14, 2006, 02:26:15 PM »
Ford, I have to post my real reply to this later, after work.  I shouldn't have read this during my lunch hour. After visualizing you in his office..........
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8/06   349/9500 25%              11/07 515/68000/24     2/10 845/U/38%
9/06   507/16,000 30% !          2/08  516/116k/22%    7/10 906/80/39%
12/06 398/29000 26%             Start Atripla 3/08
3/07   402/80,000 29%            4/08  485/undet!/27
4/07   507/35,000 25%            7/08 625/UD/34%
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Offline thunter34

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #28 on: December 14, 2006, 02:51:15 PM »
like I said...........

Uh....

Yeah....

Uh...


Uh.................


Nope.  Lipo is not what I am thinking, either.
AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #29 on: December 14, 2006, 03:29:19 PM »
Perhaps your partner feels like the bodybuilding is something that may drive a wedge between you two, or that you might even find someone else who IS into bodybuilding.  Without knowing the dynamics between you both, it's hard to say offhand.  :-\

He's not worrying that I'm going to run off with a bodybuilder or anyone else. He's going to see it as a pointless activity will take time away from being together. He would have the same reaction if I said I was taking a photography class three days a week. But our dynamic is I say I'm going to do something, he complains and I do it anyway. ;D

Nope.  Lipo is not what I am thinking, either.

I was surprised to realize that even though I'm self-conscious about being too lean apparently I'm not lean enough for a bodybuilding competition. My body fat is at 10% and they want it at 7-8%.

Offline thunter34

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2006, 03:40:12 PM »
Yep.  I noticed that above about the %.  Gosh, you're downright portly in some circles, eh?  Guess that would put me somewhere in the 'morbidy obese' range!  LOL

I'm glad you have that dynamic with the BF, and you won't let complaints stop you.  I think this can be a good thing for you on so many levels...even if you never made it on stage to compete.  The process of preparing has so many potential benefits for you.

(Not to mention that we might score some additional photos from that process.  LOL)

Selfishly,

Tim
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Offline Longislander

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2006, 06:25:10 PM »
Quote
Not to mention that we might score some additional photos from that process

MIGHT?. Let's make that a MUST! (please??)

Ford, sorry about the earlier silliness. It's a great compliment from both trainers, and Damian willing to work with you. The first is in June, and you have the discipline to acheive whatever goals are necessary. (The on the road to competition pics are gonna be awesome! ;) )

I'm glad to hear your BF dynamic is what it is, I'd hate to see you stifled. Perhaps you can get him to come down to the gym every now and again to spot you. And then there's the full body shaving, and oiling down.....

Good luck with all of this, and more importantly-enjoy the ride!

Paul
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Offline thunter34

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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2006, 11:05:29 PM »
Go get 'em, boy!

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Offline Rhino

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2006, 12:40:51 AM »
Gymrat

Well my program crashed after I managed to rip two intercostal muscles doing heavy pullovers. I been bumed out for three weeks already letting them heal. Besides its nearly impossible for me to diet during Xmas so I probable won't get back on track until January. Wish you the best with your first competition.

Can you post the link of the website that Damian gave you?

Thanxz

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2006, 01:08:25 AM »
Here are the links he gave me:

http://www.renfit.com/

http://www.inbf.net/

http://www.wnbf.net/

I hope you heal quickly.


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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #35 on: January 02, 2007, 07:00:47 PM »
I saw this shirt online and thought it was perfect.


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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #36 on: January 03, 2007, 10:53:40 AM »
Ford, just curious what your new (or old, for that matter) leg routine was. Find it hard to add bulk in the, er, nether regions. I do plenty of squats, leg curls and extensions, calf raises; have recently added hack squats and lunges. Am I doing too much, too little? (I guess you might need more details... sets, reps, weights... but I'm already running late for my library "date.")

Jay
Her finely-touched spirit had still its fine issues, though they were not widely visible. Her full nature, like that river of which Cyrus broke the strength, spent itself in channels which had no great name on the earth. But the effect of her being on those around her was incalculably diffusive: for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs.

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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Personal trainer
« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2007, 02:41:47 PM »
My trainer said I was doing too many exercise. He has me doing 3 sets of 8-10 of:

leg extension machine
leg curl machine
squats
leg press hack squats
lunges
calf raises

Sometimes I will throw in the glute machine. He has me using heavy weight so I'm exhausted. He emphasizes diet: lots of protein for building muscle mass.

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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2007, 02:58:34 PM »
When I was at the top of my Gym Nazi period (which is definitely not now!), that was one of the major hurdles I had to train myself against:  doing too much exercise.  I was apparently wearing down too much muscle and not giving myself enough time to recover and add mass.  Another example of when less can be more.  Quality of reps over sheer quantity.  Also helped to switch up the types of exercises I did to work each muscle group.  If there were 6 different potential exercises for legs, do 3 of them in one session and the other 3 the next time I did legs. 

I cannot stress enough the importance of an exercise log for all of this intense training.  It helps like you wouldn't believe.
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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2007, 03:15:32 PM »
He's not worrying that I'm going to run off with a bodybuilder or anyone else. He's going to see it as a pointless activity will take time away from being together. He would have the same reaction if I said I was taking a photography class three days a week. But our dynamic is I say I'm going to do something, he complains and I do it anyway. ;D

I was surprised to realize that even though I'm self-conscious about being too lean apparently I'm not lean enough for a bodybuilding competition. My body fat is at 10% and they want it at 7-8%.

MY GOD...I am at 21% body fat!!! I am HUGENORMOUS!!!! I am checking into the the nearest Jenny Craig center now!

Ford, you look fantastic...I am really working hard to lose the belly fat...I am so self concious about it...oh and the veiny arms...yea, I am getting those too, and I noticed that my legs are getting them as well...oh well...

Good lord...I need to increase the cardio it seems... ;D
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« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2007, 03:50:01 PM »
You look great Jeromy. With your charms and talents you have nothing to worry about. ;)

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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2007, 03:55:27 PM »
My trainer said I was doing too many exercise. He has me doing 3 sets of 8-10 of:

leg extension machine
leg curl machine
squats
leg press hack squats
lunges
calf raises

Sometimes I will throw in the glute machine. He has me using heavy weight so I'm exhausted. He emphasizes diet: lots of protein for building muscle mass.

Uncanny: that is EXACTLY what I do. but then I'm probably 40 to 50 lbs lighter than you, so maybe it's overtraining the ol' legs. And yep, I've increased the protein intake. Btw, the the brand I find tastes best (for me) and digests easily is Prolab. Just sayin.

Jay
Her finely-touched spirit had still its fine issues, though they were not widely visible. Her full nature, like that river of which Cyrus broke the strength, spent itself in channels which had no great name on the earth. But the effect of her being on those around her was incalculably diffusive: for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs.

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« Reply #42 on: January 03, 2007, 04:05:31 PM »
Damn... after that picture... I think I just creamed my jeans!

Yeah... that chick was HOT.
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« Reply #43 on: January 03, 2007, 04:20:40 PM »
Two exercises I've started doing, in search of a flat(ter) stomach: oblique crunches and the stomach vacuum.

My body fat is at 13-14% and apparently one needs 10% or lower to have that ripped abs look. Too much work; I'm a lean boy and don't want to spend hours and hours doing cardio only to lose muscle, not fat. I'm happy with the flat stomach "look."

Jay
Her finely-touched spirit had still its fine issues, though they were not widely visible. Her full nature, like that river of which Cyrus broke the strength, spent itself in channels which had no great name on the earth. But the effect of her being on those around her was incalculably diffusive: for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs.

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« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2007, 01:16:52 AM »
Ford, I have a question about how many days a week you work out. I haven't done much reading on the subject but pretty much most guides (books or internet) say: never do weights more than two days in a row. And always leave two days in the week for recovery.

I've pretty much done that always. Either MWF or MTThF. But I keep reading about guys who workout 5/week, even 6/week. I gues they're more advanced bodybuilders who train one bodypart each day of the week, intensively? And not 90 minutes at the gym but 45 minutes? Or do cardio on some of those days?

I don't think I'm overtraining at all. (Btw, I took a ten-day complete break and now I feel completely out of shape.) After a workout today (chest, arms), plan to do legs tomorrow, and... Thursday, instead of day off, I'd like to do back and shoulders. And then take Friday and Saturday off. (That's partly because I have two social events over the weekend which will be unsurvivable without some booze, and I don't like to do weights and drink on the same day.)

Is this total heresy? Or should I do what feels right with my body? I'm still a novice at this.

Finally, did your trainer recommend creatine or any other supplements (besides protein shakes)?

And, yes, please keep those pics coming...  :)

Jay

Her finely-touched spirit had still its fine issues, though they were not widely visible. Her full nature, like that river of which Cyrus broke the strength, spent itself in channels which had no great name on the earth. But the effect of her being on those around her was incalculably diffusive: for the growing good of the world is partly dependent on unhistoric acts; and that things are not so ill with you and me as they might have been, is half owing to the number who lived faithfully a hidden life, and rest in unvisited tombs.

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« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2007, 04:14:08 AM »
My trainer put me on a 4 day schedule. I'm doing:

1) Back & Bicep
2) Shoulders
day off
3) Chest & Triceps
4) Legs
day off

I spend 45 minutes to 1 hour lifting. My trainer said I was doing too many exercises and said to focus on fewer exercises with more intensity. I'm not doing cardio at all right now because I'm trying to gain weight. I'm eating 5 times a day with lots of protein, complex carbs and low fat. I'm using protein powder and glutamine. I have not been using creatine because I've not done enough research on it yet. So far I have gained almost 5 pounds, which for me is great! I'm also seeing strength gains.

I think you can workout 5-6 days a week as long as you are isolating muscle groups, such as chest/arms/shoulder/back/legs. I don't think you should do an upper body/lower body routine that many days a week. Recuperation is important  and your muscles need time to repair. There is a lot of good information on Bodybuilding.com.


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« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2007, 01:59:47 PM »
Hello Gentlemen,

We all have our diffrent goals, mine is not bodybuilding it is strength. I have reached peaks and had injuries(recovery sucks)

To those of you that are bodybuilders, great good for you set goals and train wisely.

My goals are to throw there is no finish line.  and now am concentrating on the Highland games.

The Scotts tell us yanks to throw and get out of the weight room, well I have found that strength is a must.

Using compound lifts and only using 7 or 8 diffrent exercises plus training for the diffrent events on alternate days does me good.

My basic exercises, STRETCH is a must, working the largest muscles first, squats and then presses moving on to pullups and dumbell work with lots of pushups aswell as hand stand pushups.

Balance and foot work is also a major player. Lift 3 days a week and pick a couple of events on the other days keeps all the muscle memory going.

events: stone/shot put, hammer winds, weights for distance(28lb/42lb) the cabers, using a lighter caber for speed and agillity and using a heavy caber for strength and balance.

To each of you that train for what ever reason, be wise and smart, it cuts down on injuries.

Maybe one of you guys would clue me in as to how to post a pic, does it need to be hosted or can I use one from my pictures?
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« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2007, 05:39:59 PM »
I'm a big fan of powerlifters. I love watching strongman competitions and I attend the Highland Games at Grandfather Mountain in NC (I'm with the Lumsden clan). Powerlifters have different goals and workouts from bodybuilders-- you guys focus on strength and explosive power while we work on building and defining our physiques.

The only way I know to post a picture is to upload the photo to a website (I use Flickr) and then put the URL in using the "Insert Image" button. I know there are other ways to do it but that's what works for me.

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« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2007, 06:34:54 PM »
I'm a big fan of powerlifters. I love watching strongman competitions and I attend the Highland Games at Grandfather Mountain in NC (I'm with the Lumsden clan). Powerlifters have different goals and workouts from bodybuilders-- you guys focus on strength and explosive power while we work on building and defining our physiques.

The only way I know to post a picture is to upload the photo to a website (I use Flickr) and then put the URL in using the "Insert Image" button. I know there are other ways to do it but that's what works for me.

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How right you are, there are a number of crossover guys, even the strongmen have the event of the 56lb weight for height event.

It is that last split second of energy burst that most of us are trying to obtain.
Strength at the peak of release.

Well I guess I will have to work on the picture thing.

ps, the top dawgs of the 56 weight for height are throwing around 20' (that is straight up) there are a few spinners but that is a whole new can of worms.

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« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2007, 06:45:51 PM »
Go for it, Ford. Sounds like a great goal to set for yourself.

It's funny how our insecurities only arise in certain situations. I'm super paranoid that I have really skinny legs, so much so that I rarely if ever wear shorts in public, even on the hottest/muggiest Sydney days. However, when I'm at the beach or doing swim training, wearing boardshorts and/or speedos doesn't worry me one iota.

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