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Author Topic: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?  (Read 2705 times)

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Offline jammerz

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How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« on: March 09, 2008, 09:08:23 PM »
I got this email from a friend of mine when I was living in Spain (back in January) and I saved it until today. I didn't know how to respond to it, so I just told him to find another doctor. My friend is located in the United States. The email has been edited slightly to remove the parts not relevant to the thread and to correct spelling errors.

"Dear Juan,
I am so upset right now. I just fired my doctor, because he is an AIDS denialist. My doctor told me that my drug use was having a negative effect on my health and I flipped out on him. I have been thinking that I am developing HIV associated Dementia for a long time now, but he won't listen to me and since I am on medicaid I can't go to a neurologist without his approval. He tells me that my abuse of cocaine and barbituates are the cause of my memory problems and not HIV. How the fuck does he know this? He is fucking denialist trash. Drugs have NO negative effect on your health whatsoever, and they borderline on being GOOD for you. Only a denialist would suggest that drug use is causing me health problems.
I don't know what to fucking do. I want to go to another doctor but he is the only doctor who accepts medicaid in my area. I can't drive anymore, because I was pulled over for DUI a THIRD time last month and they took my license away for 5 years. Can you fucking believe him though? He is supposed to be a doctor and he is spouting off this denialist crap like drug use has a negative effect on my health. I swear on my life I wanted to fucking punch his lights out when he told me I should stop doing phenobarb. Who the fuck is he? Is he a fucking neurologist? I wanna cry so badly. Please give me some advice. Please. I am desperate to get treatment for dementia, but he won't help me. Fucking asshole.

Marc"
HIV+ since June 2005. Taking Prezista/r and Nevirapine.

Offline thunter34

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2008, 09:19:40 PM »
Sounds to me like this guy has done robbed himself of his senses.  He ought to know you can't do anything outside of moderation and get off scottt free.


For what it's worth...I'm not buying this.
AIDS isn't for sissies.

Offline jammerz

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2008, 09:21:17 PM »
What does that mean "moderation and get off scott free". I am not a native american so I don't understand some of these colloquialisms.
HIV+ since June 2005. Taking Prezista/r and Nevirapine.

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2008, 09:32:08 PM »
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. . . I was pulled over for DUI a THIRD time last month. . . .

It's the details that make it so good.   

I think your friend should seek Jesus at the Landover Baptist Church. 
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Offline thunter34

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2008, 09:40:28 PM »
"...3rd DUI last month..."

Mrs. Seabreeze, is that you??   ;D


http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=18903.0
« Last Edit: March 09, 2008, 09:42:18 PM by thunter34 »
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Offline Dachshund

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2008, 10:10:47 PM »
Sounds to me like this guy has done robbed himself of his senses.  He ought to know you can't do anything outside of moderation and get off scottt free.


For what it's worth...I'm not buying this.

I wouldn't stay up all night worrying about it ;)

Offline Winiroo

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2008, 11:32:10 PM »
My guess is that your buddy is having health issues because of drug abuse.

Moderation meaning not using drugs often or in substantial amounts. Getting off scott free means getting away with something with no consequence.

I was curious how we got the term so I Googled it. I thought others might like to read what I found so here ya go.

Getting off Scot free
Getting off scot-free refers to someone getting away without payment, either monetary or otherwise. In fact in modern usage, it often refers to suspects who are not convicted of a crime. If a person feels that the suspect should have been convicted, he might say, ďThat guy is getting off scot-free.Ē

Often the term is confused with the frugality that is occasionally attributed to the Scottish. Actually, the term scot predates old Gaelic that would have been spoken by the Scots. In fact the word has its origins in Scandinavian language and probably descends to the English language via Anglo-Saxon.

Scot literally translates to payment. Thus getting off scot-free is not having to pay the payment, or is payment free. In medieval England, occasionally people paid a tax called a scot that would have been used to fund relief programs for the exceptionally poor, not that such relief programs were many.

The scot one paid was also called a lot, shorted for allotted share of the payment. The two terms naturally married, producing one word for both payment and share. If a person could avoid making a payment in some way, he was getting off scot-free.

Now a scot could stand for any type of payment, and is often used when discussing paying a tab at the bar. Each person drinking owes a scot, a portion of a shared tab. A person who doesnít pay his scot is getting off scot-free.

Getting off scot-free implies evasion, purposeful or otherwise of the dues one is supposed to pay. It is frequently an annoyance to others if people duck out of paying what everyone else must pay. This is especially the case if the scot of a bar tab is avoided, since everyone else will have to pay extra to make up for the person getting off scot-free.

It is good to know that a term in frequent usage is not in fact a racial slur intended to insult the Scottish. Many terms in frequent usage do have their origins in language that deliberately insults race or gender of others. Fortunately, scot-free is free of this taint.





Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2008, 11:53:11 PM »
Wouldn't an HIV specialist that was an AIDS denialist get their licensing revoked?
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline jammerz

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2008, 11:55:56 PM »
who knows. If they are government paid doctors probably not. Another reason why socialised medicine would never work.
HIV+ since June 2005. Taking Prezista/r and Nevirapine.

Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2008, 11:58:07 PM »
I don't think I'd smoke crack if I was getting dementia.  What's the point if you can't remember how high you got?
"Iíve slept with enough men to know that Iím not gay"

Offline jammerz

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2008, 11:59:43 PM »
Yes, well I don't think I would do it whether I was AIDS+ or not. My parents died of cocaine overdoses. I sure won't be going out the same way.
HIV+ since June 2005. Taking Prezista/r and Nevirapine.

Offline Oceanbeach

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2008, 03:40:39 AM »
"...3rd DUI last month..."

Mrs. Seabreeze, is that you??   ;D


http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=18903.0

It does sound Ms. Seabreeze and she is not HIV.  She is bi-polar, manic depressive and an alcoholic and getting out of jail on March 30th over 3 DUI's in 31 days. ;D ;D ;D Have the best day
Michael

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2008, 08:22:58 AM »
Yes, well I don't think I would do it whether I was AIDS+ or not. My parents died of cocaine overdoses. I sure won't be going out the same way.

I'm not even going to play into this one.
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Offline Desertguy

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2008, 08:25:58 AM »
ALL I CAN SAY IS WHAT THE F'?????????

You made this story up right?

Offline Jeff G

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2008, 10:08:44 AM »
 I have been sober 10 years now ( OK 8 it seems like 10 to me) If I'm missing something here and drugs and A DUI is border line good for ya maybe just maybe I should introduce a little cocaine and practice my drunk driving skills again.

 And before any one jumps on me and gives my a cyber spanking this is only sarcasm .I am NOT judging any one . I wish I could do stuff in moderation but I cant and truth be told I really don't miss it ether.

What do you guys think. Is this story for real ? I have heard stranger tales before LOL. 

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2008, 10:19:16 AM »
What do you guys think. Is this story for real ? I have heard stranger tales before LOL. 

No, and I'm wondering how long it will continue.
I've never killed anyone, but I frequently get satisfaction reading the obituary notices.-Clarence Darrow

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Re: How to deal with "denialist" doctors?
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2008, 10:25:42 AM »
 I think I'm gonna report myself to the moderator for falling for this one ;D

 


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