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Offline maxxx

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blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« on: November 12, 2006, 04:31:51 PM »
first of all, sorry for my english, its not my motherlanguage :)

the last days i thougt a lot about hiv, because tomorrow i have my regular check for hiv........i said
to myself last year 'do this once a year', because i am sexually very active with many partners (ALWAYS
protected). well, i am a little bit nervous anyway (maybe for NO reason). but you know what i mean......

but what i think a lot of is the following: in the last about five years i had sex with.......well, about 50 girls. And i use ALWAYS condoms. fact is, that about 30-40 % of the girls don't know much about transmission ways of hiv. what i mean is the following: almost everybody knows that CONDOMS are the key for save sex, BUT: the 30-40% of the girls simply don't know that oral sex with ejaculating in the mouth is also a transmission way....and they DO this, even if it is a ONS.

what do i want to say ? i think that the education about hiv is very bad concerning this. i am living in europe (austria), and i think it is the same almost everywhere. what do you think about this ??


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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2006, 04:48:35 PM »
maxx,

There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one. This shows us two things. One, condoms are very effective for the prevention of hiv transmission. Two, oral sex is much lower risk than previously believed. We now have the evidence that oral sex is a very low risk activity where hiv transmission is concerned.

It's good to hear that you use condoms consistently and that you have regular, routine sexual health care check ups. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2006, 04:51:41 PM »
Well, it's a very good thing to read that you always use condoms for intercourse. They provide very effective protection. I don't see any reason to doubt you will test negative again.

It's wise of you to get checked regularly and it would also a good idea to  have a full STD panel done at the same time as well since other STDs are much easier to catch than HIV, and some of them are via skin to skin contact.

It's worse than unfortunate that so many do not seem to be acquainted with the basics of HIV transmission. As for your concern about those who give oral, the fact is there have been very, very cases documented of transmission in that manner. The risk is more theoretical than actual. Through longterm studies of sero-dystonic couples in which there was much protected intercourse and the same of mutual oral, none of the sero-negative partners became infected.

Good luck with your test. Worrying before getting tested is a perfectly natural reaction. It understandably raises your anxiety level but nothng you have reported leads me to expect other than a negative result.

Cheers,
Andy Velez

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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2006, 05:02:26 PM »
to andy and ann:

thanks a lot for your statements........i went trough the forum reading a lot of your answers and statements and you are doing a GREAT work ! *respect*

but what i mean with my posting is the following: when I estimate that 30-40% of 'my' girls don't know about the transmission via oral sex (WITH ejaculating into the mouth), this must be kind of a 'average' for all the people. it's a little bit SAD, just SAD, because i think 'a little risk' is not 'no risk'. and i am SURE that from that 30-40 % many would do it WITHOUT condoms. i have some of a feeling like they think 'hiv WAS a sad illness, but it is not anymore'..........where are we going ???

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fingering and touching penis ?
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2007, 02:07:03 PM »
hi there,

sorry for my english :)

the last time i asked myself if the following situation is any risk (even little) for HIV:

when i am fingering a girl, meaning when i put my fingers into the vagina, then get a blowjob from her
and about 2-3 minutes later i jerk off my penis to 'finish': is there a risk as there is vagina-fluid on
my fingers when touching my penis everywhere ? and after that about 5 minutes later i touch
my lips with my fingers, where i got an very 'new' herpes blister, is this any risk ?

reg, maxx

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Re: fingering and touching penis ?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2007, 02:11:36 PM »
There is no risk in what you have described.

Please keep all your thoughts in your original thread next time.  And read the lessons on transmission to help you better understand how HIV is actually transmitted.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
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Re: fingering and touching penis ?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2007, 02:14:28 PM »
sorry for the new tread, but the other one has nothing to do with this question ;-)

well, i was quite sure that there was NO risk, but i want to know WHY this is not a risk...........as
this is a 'normal' sex practice for me and i want to avoid it if it is NOT save...........so there is vaginal fluid
and it comes in touch with my penis and my herpes blister........so why this not a risk ?

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Re: fingering and touching penis ?
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2007, 02:16:40 PM »
Well for one, the HIV cells required for infection are mainly found farther up the vagina in the cervical mucous.  Secondly, your skin is a very effective barrier to HIV and last, HIV is transmitted INSIDE the body, not from contact like you have described.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

Offline maxxx

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Re: fingering and touching penis ?
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2007, 02:22:12 PM »
okay, but when i am fingering a vagina i have my fingers quite 'deep' in there.

second: yes, but the 'top' of my penis is not a barrier for transmission, and a blister on the
lip is not, too !
 
does the virus 'die' in the air ? how long does it 'survive' ? i am very interested about that, as
there are soooo many different answers

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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2007, 02:30:45 PM »
There arent many different answers to your question.  You did not have a risk.

No matter how deep you think you got, you have no worries about mutual masturbation.  NONE.

Others shall be here shortly to confirm this for you.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2007, 02:33:57 PM »
Max, I have merged your threads. Even when you think it's a different subject you should still keep your entries in this thread. They actually are connected and that way readers can follow the entire exchange.

The kind of sexual situation you are talking about which is essentially masturbatory is as you have been told, absolutely not a risk for transmission. HIV is a fragile virus. It needs a recepting setting for transmission and none of the circumstances you have described offer such.

As far as you reaching "deeply" into the vagina with your hand, it's highly unlikely you are getting as far up as the cervix, which is the area where the body fluids could be a source of transmission IF the woman you are with is HIV+. Getting her fluids on your hand and masturbating yourself is another non-risk.

The real risks for transmission are unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Everything else is pretty much theoretically risk. In the real world of HIV transmission just doesn't happen in other ways sexually.

And there's never been a documented case of HIV transmission to a guy getting a blowjob, so you can cross that off of your worry list right now.

Cheers,  
« Last Edit: April 04, 2007, 02:37:11 PM by Andy Velez »
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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2007, 02:44:13 PM »
Max,

Do I understand you correctly that you let someone give you a blowjob while you had a herpes blister on your penis? Why? I hope you realise that you will transmit your herpes to that person's lips. You need to either cover your herpes blister with a condom for sexual activity or refrain from having sexual contact. Keep your herpes to yourself!

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

And remember, when you have an active herpes outbreak, you need to not let anyone touch it. Keep your herpes to yourself!!!

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2007, 02:46:29 PM »
Max,

Do I understand you correctly that you let someone give you a blowjob while you had a herpes blister on your penis? Why? I hope you realise that you will transmit your herpes to that person's lips. You need to either cover your herpes blister with a condom for sexual activity or refrain from having sexual contact. Keep your herpes to yourself!


ann, no no no ! you misunderstood ! i have the blister on my LIPS !!! not on my penis !

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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2007, 02:51:12 PM »
the question was if there is a risk when i touch my blister 3-5 minutes after fingering the girl ? SHE had NO conctact
with my blister !!!!!

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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2007, 03:45:26 PM »
And the answer was no risk.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming--WOW! WHAT A
RIDE!!!

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Re: blowjob -> shocked about the knowledge of girls
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2007, 06:34:04 PM »
As AC said, touching your lip blister during this incident did not put you at risk for HIV transmission. Really.
Andy Velez

 


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