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« on: April 29, 2009, 11:36:08 AM »
hello all please could you tell me what my risk factor is please, i went for a sauna with 2 women (csw)had 2 mins of unprotected oral,then i put condom on had intercourse with one women then the other woman gave me oral condom still on then condom came off, and she carried oral on,until i ejaculated what about secreations from the woman i had intercourse with getting from condom onto my penis and infecting me?

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 01:00:36 PM »
You were never at risk of contracting HIV in the situations you've provided.

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2009, 01:34:00 PM »
You were never at risk of contracting HIV in the situations you've provided.

yes but there were fluids on condom before other girl sucked it an then sucked my penis  it  must have had fluids on it and it got on my penis from her mouth must have been a bit of a chance?

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2009, 01:46:59 PM »
sid,

It doesn't matter about the fluids. Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Not one person has ever been infected this way and you won't be the first. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. You're worrying over nothing.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST OVER THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2009, 06:26:48 PM »
must be some risk as my tongueis white,keeps getting red patches on the end and mouth hurts and stings aa time,alsomy lymph node under chin hurts always,never had this before,should i get duo test? cant get this out of my head,been tested for all stds negative?

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2009, 06:57:39 PM »
You don't need to have any HIV testing done because as Ann has clearly and reliably told you: YOU HAD NO RISK FOR HIV TRANSMISSION. Read that over again a few times.

Stop playing doctor on yourself without a license. Go see a real doctor if your symptoms persist. They have nothing to do with HIV.
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Re: analize risk
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2009, 03:19:48 AM »
You don't need to have any HIV testing done because as Ann has clearly and reliably told you: YOU HAD NO RISK FOR HIV TRANSMISSION. Read that over again a few times.

Stop playing doctor on yourself without a license. Go see a real doctor if your symptoms persist. They have nothing to do with HIV.

hi again i have read through what ann put and i still am unsure as it says when having sex with condom on dont fuck two people alternativly,which is very similiar to my concern as it was in one girls vagina then the other girls mouth then on my penis after condom came off all in about 30 seconds.and then all the mouth symptoms could condom have ripped as i opened packet wiyh my teeth but it seemed to go on ok and i held base while having intercourse to avoid slippage

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 04:16:44 AM »
You used a condom for vaginal sex and were protected. The other gal gave you a blowjob which you didn't need a condom. Had you had vaginal sex with the other gal you should have changed condoms before proceeding to protect her from HIV.  Never use the same condom for two different people when having anal or vaginal sex.

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 04:27:02 AM »
You used a condom for vaginal sex and were protected. The other gal gave you a blowjob which you didn't need a condom. Had you had vaginal sex with the other gal you should have changed condoms before proceeding to protect her from HIV.  Never use the same condom for two different people when having anal or vaginal sex.

i understand what you are saying but if i needed to protect her by changing condoms then that means fluids on condom could infect? as my original question it could have been trasferred into other gals mouth then onto me thus infecting me?

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2009, 05:44:13 AM »
At no time were you at risk of contracting HIV.

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Re: analize risk
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2009, 08:12:38 AM »
Sid,

You said, "when having sex with condom on dont fuck two people alternativly" and that's true, but the risk is to the RECEPTIVE PARTNER(s), not you. And not only that, the risk to the receptive partner doesn't concern hiv, it concerns the OTHER MORE EASILY TRANSMITTED STIs. NOT HIV.

You also said, "it could have been trasferred into other gals mouth then onto me thus infecting me?"  I answered you earlier that not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. In other words, there's no way the virus would have survived intact in her mouth and been able to infect you.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus. Sexually speaking, you need to be having UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse in order to be infected with hiv. Getting blown just isn't going to do it, and neither is protected intercourse, no matter what your mind may be telling you.

You didn't have a risk. Keep going on about this NO RISK incident and you will be given a time out. If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

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Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Please consider yourself warned.

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2009, 10:13:54 AM »
Sid,

You said, "when having sex with condom on dont fuck two people alternativly" and that's true, but the risk is to the RECEPTIVE PARTNER(s), not you. And not only that, the risk to the receptive partner doesn't concern hiv, it concerns the OTHER MORE EASILY TRANSMITTED STIs. NOT HIV.

You also said, "it could have been trasferred into other gals mouth then onto me thus infecting me?"  I answered you earlier that not only is saliva not infectious
Sid,

You said, "when having sex with condom on dont fuck two people alternativly" and that's true, but the risk is to the RECEPTIVE PARTNER(s), not you. And not only that, the risk to the receptive partner doesn't concern hiv, it concerns the OTHER MORE EASILY TRANSMITTED STIs. NOT HIV.

You also said, "it could have been trasferred into other gals mouth then onto me thus infecting me?"  I answered you earlier that not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. In other words, there's no way the virus would have survived intact in her mouth and been able to infect you.

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus. Sexually speaking, you need to be having UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse in order to be infected with hiv. Getting blown just isn't going to do it, and neither is protected intercourse, no matter what your mind may be telling you.

You didn't have a risk. Keep going on about this NO RISK incident and you will be given a time out. If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

Please consider yourself warned.

Ann

, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. In other words, there's no way the virus would have survived intact in her mouth and been able to infect you.
hi i went to get a duo test ab/p24 test it has

Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus. Sexually speaking, you need to be having UNPROTECTED anal or vaginal intercourse in order to be infected with hiv. Getting blown just isn't going to do it, and neither is protected intercourse, no matter what your mind may be telling you.

You didn't have a risk. Keep going on about this NO RISK incident and you will be given a time out. If you read the Welcome Thread before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:

Please consider yourself warned.

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hi i have taken a duo test and it tested for hiv 1/2 antibodies and p24 it was at private clinic and also a insti test by biolytical took 4 hrs for duo result it said not detected and also insti was negativebeen about 12weeks,what could be my tongue and gland problem? had to take test was really worked up and stressed,can i resume sexual activies with my new partner now and be sure she wont get hiv?
had no sex since error in judgemeant

sid

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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2009, 10:22:11 AM »
Sid,

First, do us a favour and stop hitting the quote button when you want to reply. It's unnecessary and causes confusion when you don't know how to use it properly.

It's no surprise that you tested negative - you didn't have a risk. It's fine to resume sexual relations with your regular partner - provided your partner has also been tested negative for hiv. YOU don't have hiv. Please re-read my earlier reply (#3).

As for your symptoms, we cannot diagnose you over the internet and we won't even try. Go see a doctor if you feel unwell. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv. You don't have hiv. You ARE hiv negative.

Keep posting about this NO RISK incident and you will be given a time out. Please consider yourself warned for the last time.

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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2009, 10:31:22 AM »
hi ann sorry for hitting quote button couple of questions then i am gone the dr said they did a test for hiv called a dna/rna-proviral pcr hiv 1 and at 10 days after exposure is 96% accurate is this true? and also how accurate is a duo test at 12.5 weeks if there had been a real risk like condom failure? can people really trust 12 weeks as definate?

thanks again for ya time

sid

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2009, 10:57:02 AM »
Sid,

WHEN THERE HAS BEEN A RISK - you didn't HAVE a risk - a pcr test must still be confirmed, either way, with standard antibody testing at the appropriate time.

The standard antibody tests are conclusive at three months.

The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks. WHERE THERE HAS BEEN A RISK - you didn't HAVE a risk - a six week negative must be confirmed at the three month point.

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2009, 08:21:07 AM »
hi people, 16 months ago had what was said to be no risk,protected sex recieved b/j with condom on and then condom whipped off and oral continued until end,fluids on condom from sex into mouth then back onto unprotected penis,tested neg 10 times out to 16 months now my oral problems have gradually got worse patches on either side of tongue near tip(come and go) sore tongue ,white tongue, painfull mouth, seen dr not thrush he has no idea, as anyone have a clue what is going on with me

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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2009, 08:39:27 AM »
Even if you hadn't already reliably tested negative for HIV, you would be worrying needlessly. In the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a single confirmed case of HIV transmission to a guy through his getting a blowjob. So it's safe to say you wouldn't make history by becoming the first.

In addition you have more than reliably tested negative. Whatever is going on with you physically has absolutely nothing to do with HIV. If you have symptoms that are bothering you, discuss them with your doctor. This is not an HIV situation. Period.

Cheers.
Andy Velez

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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2009, 08:47:59 AM »
hi andy, ok just wondered if anyone had had same problems,i have had many tests and cant find anything wrong inc 10 hiv, it all started 4 months after this incident must be linked.

steve

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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2009, 08:54:53 AM »
"It must be linked." Wrong. Simply because no other explanation has been found for your problem does not by default mean HIV is the cause. Whether you believe it or not, HIV is not your problem.

You need to find a doctor who can find the real cause of your symptoms.

Andy Velez

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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2009, 08:56:27 AM »
andy

could stress and anxiety be the answer?

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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2009, 09:36:29 AM »
Stress and anxiety certainly can play havoc with your immune system. Along with explring to find the real physical cause(s) of your symptoms, you might find seeing a therapist or other professional helpful.

Obviously this kind of situation is stressful. Talking about this kind of problem in a private setting can sometimes be very useful.

Andy Velez

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2009, 10:34:43 AM »
Sid,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.



Whatever is going on with you has nothing to do with hiv. You never had a risk to begin with as we repeatedly told you and you also have TEN negative results! How on earth you connect a sexual incident with oral problems four months later  is beyond me. I agree with Andy that perhaps it's time you sought counselling to get to the bottom of your sexual anxieties. We cannot help you with that here.

If you insist on returning here to question your negative hiv status, you'll quickly be given a second (56 day) time out. Please consider yourself warned.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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