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Author Topic: AIDS Cures MS?  (Read 955 times)

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Offline Matty the Damned

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AIDS Cures MS?
« on: August 10, 2014, 08:07:59 PM »
'sup perverts!

Apparently HIV might cure multiple sclerosis.

Quote from: The Economist
IN SCIENCE, as in many other walks of life, what is unexpected is often what is most interesting and important. The idea, first mooted in 2011 by Julian Gold of the Prince of Wales Hospital in Sydney, Australia, that HIV infection—or maybe the drug treatment used to fight it—might protect against multiple sclerosis (MS), was certainly unexpected. Now, in a study just published in the Journal of Neurology, Neurosurgery and Psychiatry, Dr Gold has confirmed his suspicion. That is interesting. It may also be important.

Dr Gold’s original motive for investigating the connection was casual observation. He treats people with HIV and has acquaintances with MS. He realised one day that he had never come across a case of someone with both. A literature search confirmed the lack of connection. Of the 700,000 published papers on HIV and AIDS, and the 300,000 on MS, not one referred to a patient who had the pair of them. Eventually, he tracked down a single instance. Tellingly, that individual started to shrug off the symptoms of MS when he began taking drugs to combat his HIV.

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Well fuck me!

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Offline absopozilutely

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 11:08:30 PM »
Huh, finally something good about HIV!
12/18 Infected
2/4 12:22pm tested POZ via ORAquick
2/19 WB Confirmation
2/4-2/19 VL 104,678 CD4 407
3/2 Genotype back, and Started Complera
4/2-CD4 688 38% and VL 1,600
5/1-CD4 592 42% and VL 336
5/22-CD4 732 31% and VL 109 :( STILL NOT UD!
5/31 Switched to Stribild :( I'll miss you Complera!
6/19 CD4 508 35% and VL UD!!!!! Crying at work like a baby.
9/19 CD4 789 46% VL UD yayyyy

Offline dico

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2014, 02:58:32 AM »
Huh, finally something good about HIV!

I've laughed a lot. Thank you.

The good question is which drugs these folks take ?

Offline absopozilutely

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2014, 10:46:19 AM »
I've laughed a lot. Thank you.

The good question is which drugs these folks take ?

Lol, well it seemed to say just ART. So I wonder if....nvm, I'll leave this up to the experts.
12/18 Infected
2/4 12:22pm tested POZ via ORAquick
2/19 WB Confirmation
2/4-2/19 VL 104,678 CD4 407
3/2 Genotype back, and Started Complera
4/2-CD4 688 38% and VL 1,600
5/1-CD4 592 42% and VL 336
5/22-CD4 732 31% and VL 109 :( STILL NOT UD!
5/31 Switched to Stribild :( I'll miss you Complera!
6/19 CD4 508 35% and VL UD!!!!! Crying at work like a baby.
9/19 CD4 789 46% VL UD yayyyy

Offline Ptrk3

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 10:47:21 AM »

Offline tryingtostay

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 07:27:40 PM »

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Offline elf

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2014, 01:14:21 AM »
My hypothesis:

In MS, due to its autoimmune (''hyperimmune'') character, there's higher than normal production of T helper 17 cells,
in HIV infection the number of these cells is low to normal, therefore autoimmune reactivity is much less probable.

Melatonin is an inducer of of Th17 cell differentiation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25064379

But, paradoxically, those with MS might benefit from using it
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25106623
« Last Edit: August 15, 2014, 01:20:05 AM by elf »
Let's have a Kiki!

Offline geobee

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2014, 10:41:21 AM »
My theory is that MS is caused by a virus, and HAART kills them.

Offline dico

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2014, 05:13:55 AM »
My theory is that MS is caused by a virus, and HAART kills them.

It would not be suprised if you are right. I think lots of our Health problems stem from both viri and bacteria

Offline tryingtostay

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2014, 11:09:00 AM »
It would not be suprised if you are right. I think lots of our Health problems stem from both viri and bacteria

Agree with this that's inline with what geobee says :thumbsup:

Offline tryingtostay

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2014, 08:34:44 PM »
I bet if Robin Williams knew about this he would of took a chance and went on a HAART regiment er something :(

Offline mecch

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Re: AIDS Cures MS?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2014, 08:48:18 PM »
 My id said that Haart is probably active against whatever virus might cause CFS - chronic fatigue  ---   Sorry I can't be more specific.
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

 


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