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Author Topic: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos  (Read 643 times)

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Offline Turtle-12

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Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« on: August 08, 2014, 06:04:26 PM »
I am HVI+ on ARV and undetectable,  I don't know my boyfriend's status and he doesn't want to do a test even though I told him I was HIV+ (don't ask why long story)...

The point is that, he insists on having unprotected sex but I am worry i will infect him or if he is HIV+ not been treated that he will give me a super infection... Does anyone know about this? if one is HIV+ but undetectable  and has unprotected intercourse with someone whose status is unknown, are they at high risk of contracting the virus and, if they are + can one get super infection??? thanks

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2014, 06:56:03 PM »
Hey Turtle,

Superinfection has been a tough one to document and we have an article:

http://www.aidsmeds.com/articles/superinfection_virus_1667_24055.shtml

It's from July 2013 and it has links to other research as well.

Personally, I've been poz for 31 years and had lots of sex with pozzies and have yet to encounter anyone who claims to be "superinfected".

Joe

Offline Turtle-12

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2014, 04:00:52 PM »
Thanks Joe, interesting article, i found some info, and it seems like new research shown the risk of transmission is very low less than 4%... i will still insists on having get a test so that if he is positive he can get meds...but that's another story : o) thanks again David

Offline weasel

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2014, 08:35:40 PM »


     Hi Turtle  :)  ,

                Nice to meet you !

        My husband's status is well known , He is NEG .

       We have been together over thirty years and I often worry about
     passing HIV to my husband .   He feels it is a crap shoot in life  :o

     I have been undetectable  for  10 years now , so he feels that
     safe sex is not really sex .  I disagree !    It puts a damper on
   my mood for sex . 
      For all the HIV POZ men I know running around with  any John , Dick or   
     Harry I have never known anyone to catch the others HIV . Not to say
     it could not happen , but it seems to rare ?

      I hope you can get your partner tested , really no reason not to .
     You have a relationship and he must feel that HIV is not a reason to run .

                                                     Be well ,
                                                                  Carl
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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2014, 11:40:33 PM »
So even if one who has control over the virus without meds and has unprotected sex with others who are HIV positive but on meds and is cream-pied can the controller contract different HIV proteins or whatever (strains?) and end up losing control of the virus without meds? 


Offline Turtle-12

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 06:27:48 PM »
Thanks Tryingtostay and weasel for your comments, my issue is rather to know whether i can infect my partner if he is negative... (this we don't know) but let's just say he is, would i be able to infect him if I am undetectable...some of the research i found said that there is less than 4% risk...but i still think is too much risk...I just don't know how to ask him to wear a condom as he doesn't believe I am + and doesn't want to hear about it...kind of closed mind type of guy...

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2014, 06:54:52 PM »

1) I just don't know how to ask him to wear a condom

2) as he doesn't believe I am + and doesn't want to hear about it...kind of closed mind type of guy...


Answer:
"Put a condom on, honey."

2) Hello. He doesn't "believe" you are HIV+?  He thinks you are lying that you are HIV+?

Remind me again why this is a relationship you want to pursue?  De Nile isn't only a river in Egypt.

“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 07:25:33 PM »
Apparently the VL can fluctuate in the seminal fluid even at UD levels.  Even pre-seminal fluid.  With that type of findings in research I would venture to always wear a condom. 


Offline Dan0

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 07:45:10 PM »
So even if one who has control over the virus without meds ......

You don't have control over the virus if you're not on medication.  You GET control over the virus by being on medication. Anything else is just a waiting game and the virus usually wins.

He doesn't 'believe' you are HIV+ and doesnt' want to hear about it?  Apparently, he doesn't value you for much - and at the same time you should be valuing yourself a lot more than you are. 
You can be the ripest, juiciest peach in the world, and there's still going to be somebody who hates peaches.

"Honey, you should never ask advice from a drunk drag queen who has a show to do." - JG

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10/2013 Stribild Still UD

Offline leatherman

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 08:48:00 PM »
I don't know my boyfriend's status and he doesn't want to do a test even though I told him I was HIV+ (don't ask why long story)...
I thought my second long-term partner was negative and although we always had protected sex, he died of AIDS just a few years ago.

What did I learn from that:
just because someone tells you that they are negative and "recently tested" doesn't mean that they even really know their status. if you and your partner continue to pretend like he's negative without testing and confirming this, you too might find him dying of AIDS one day.

So even if one who has control over the virus without meds and has unprotected sex with others who are HIV positive but on meds and is cream-pied can the controller contract different HIV proteins or whatever (strains?) and end up losing control of the virus without meds? 
no one has "control over the virus without meds". Without meds, an HIV positive person is infectious. Without meds, HIV is a terminal illness. However with meds, a person is protected from dying or transmitting HIV because meds will act as PrEP (pre-exposure) and PEP (post exposure), and meds alone control the virus
leatherman (aka mIkIE)


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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 08:49:55 PM »
He sounds like he may be a denialists ... so please do not let him convince you that you do not have a virus that can take your life if you do not take your meds . This is a serous subject and I urge you to give it lots a thought if you wish to continue with a person who clearly does not value your life .

Offline leatherman

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Re: Unprotected Sex Intercourse btwn Neg/Pos
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2014, 09:35:27 PM »
he doesn't want to do a test even though I told him I was HIV+
a person who clearly does not value your life .
nor does he even value his own life. :(
gotta be scared for someone willing to be that ignorant
leatherman (aka mIkIE)


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