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Offline detpiston7788

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im prepared
« on: November 07, 2006, 12:05:35 PM »
I read through alot of the threads regarding condoms, and alot of the people here say as long as condoms are used, theres no way to transmite hiv.  But, i gone into Condom websites, and they are saying that condoms dosen't prevent anything.  So, why is there different things being said? im starting to get a little scared, for the majority i've used condoms with the people i was with now i could have hiv

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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2006, 12:13:28 PM »
Excuse me? That is not what any condom website says. It just never says that any condom is 100% effective and that because of improper use, not used correctly or not used consistently and condom failure.

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Re: Im lost here?
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2006, 12:24:37 PM »
yes i would agree with u about improper use. But, some of these sights say stds can still be transmitted regardless.  Even the vatican says condoms don't work.  I also read this forum on here that a member posted saying they got hiv even with a condom.  am i reading too much into to this? Ever sense i go into hiv sights, it makes me really scared, what must i do?

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Im lost here?
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2006, 12:28:55 PM »
Leave religion out of it. Religion and condoms don't mix and it has nothing to do about reliability. Now if you have a question about HIV post it, if not, don't be fear mongering because of your lack of knowledge.

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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2006, 12:32:29 PM »
det,

If you've ever had unprotected intercourse, you need to test. Even if you haven't, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection.

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Re: Im lost here?
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2006, 01:19:54 PM »
thanks ann. i will get tested. But, i still have many questions.  The super aids thing, is that rare?   Why are bacterial diseases easier to catch than virual?

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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2006, 11:44:11 AM »
The main difference between these two categories of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), now more commonly referred to as sexually transmitted infections, or STIs, is what causes them — bacterial STIs are caused by bacteria and viral STIs are caused by viruses. As a result of being caused by different microorganisms, bacterial and viral STIs vary in their treatment. Bacterial STIs, such as gonorrhea, syphilis, and chlamydia, are often cured with antibiotics. However, viral STIs, such as HIV, HPV (genital warts), herpes, and hepatitis (the only STI that can be prevented with a vaccine) — the four Hs, have no cure, but their symptoms can be alleviated with treatment.


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i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2006, 10:02:02 PM »
this is why im scared to death to get tested, i had people tell me that hiv is a death sentance, while on here, everyone has high spirits. I dunno what to do anymore

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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 10:11:18 PM »
First thing you do is keep all your thoughts and questions in your orginal thread.

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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2006, 05:56:37 AM »
Det,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

Hiv is hardly a death sentence anymore. In fact, the sooner a person is diagnosed, the better chance they have of living a normal life-span. It's people who stick their head in the sand and don't test until they wind up in hospital with a serious (usually chest) infection who end up having problems. We've come a long way, baby, to use a cliche.

If you've been using condoms, chances are you're worrying over nothing. Get tested if in doubt of your status bacause hiv is nothing to guess about.

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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2006, 01:34:58 PM »
well after doing resarch, now im super afraid of getting tested. Now, i read tht people can catch a drug resistant hiv. if thats the case with me, im done pretty much, meds wont work.  how often does that happen?

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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2006, 05:57:49 PM »
det,

What makes you think you're infected? Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus.

Look at it this way. If you are hiv positive, not testing isn't going to change that fact. You are much more likely to die if you wait until you're admitted to hospital with PCP or worse than if you are diagnosed early. Stop playing games and if you've actually had a risk, get tested.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2006, 12:02:56 AM »
well, after doing some reading, i know for sure i got it. I read that hiv can get through on small cuts on the penis. And after what i heard about my partner, shes hiv positive.  And unforutnatly i do have a few cuts (thats what they look like :(    Im scared, i dont want to be seperated from my family! how can i be this dumb? If hiv isnt a death sentance anymore, then why are alot of people still dying?

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2006, 12:17:35 AM »
o, now i just read a post that a memeber here got hiv, and they clamined to always using condoms.  So i guess sex is just not safe anymore.  Condoms to me dont work ever sense i saw that persons post.

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2006, 07:44:08 AM »
Seek out the help of a mental health professional. There is nothing more we can help you with. You do not get HIV by using correctly used condoms.

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« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2006, 08:02:36 AM »
You've been told the real deal here. Properly used condoms provide very effective protection against HIV transmission. Period.

Theoretically nothing is 100% safe. So anytime you have sex with anything other than your hand there is a possibility of transmission. But in the real world of HIV we know from experience that condoms do the job.

Other STDs are another matter. Some can be contracted from skin-to-skin contact. That's why Ann has mentioned that anyone who's sexually active should be getting a full STD panel done regularly -- at least once a year.

There's no problem with having vaginal or anal intercourse with a partner who is HIV+ as long as condoms are used consistently. Many thousands of sero-dystonic couples are having good lives together in every way including sexually, while effectively protecting the status of the sero-negative partner.

You seem to be spending a lot of energy on what ifs and maybes. That's not good for your health. If you can't let go of searching for things to worry about in relation to HIV, then I concur with the suggestion that you get some professional help to deal with this issue.

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2006, 02:08:18 PM »
can i ask this tho, if someone has a high viral load, can they easliy give hiv to someone else? or versus a low viral load?  i cant afford a threapist btw, so u guys are the experts  ;D   i guess i'll confess  past years i've been with a lot of people, majority condoms used.  But the past 3 have been no condom use.  Last 2 people are clean, i know for a fact. But the recent one im scared. I've heard rumors that shes been with a lot people herself, (including a herion addict) thats y im scared. Im also scared of re enfection.  I know i gotta get tested, i know it'll come out as positive. i just dont know what to tell my family  :-[

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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2006, 02:58:23 PM »
1. You have had unprotected intercourse. That means you need to get tested at 13 weeks past the most recent such incident.

2. You need to wear a condom everytime you have intercourse. It's not something to do when you feel like it or it's convenient. Everytime you have unprotected intercourse you are putting your life at risk.

3.  Using the term "clean" in reference to HIV status is insensitive and offensive. HIV is a virus and people are either HIV+ or HIV negative. Clean and dirty do not apply as appropriate terms.

4. Someone with a high viral load is more potentially a source of infection than someone with a low viral load.

5. Get tested and find out your status.

Andy Velez

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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2006, 10:52:27 PM »
in response to "condoms work"  Why is it i been reading about some memebers getting infected despite condom use?

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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2006, 11:02:06 PM »
Well, if you have been doing all of this reading on this forum, maybe you can tell us the specific thread and we can read and analyze the story. You say there are more than one of these stories, so it won't take you long.

R
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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2006, 12:13:44 PM »
in the "i just tested poz"  SOmeone by the name of rugger, justsomeguy,

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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2006, 02:31:28 PM »
Those individuals did not contract HIV from proper condom use contrary to what they may have stated.

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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2006, 02:38:18 AM »
ok another question, back in march, i got a voicemail from some county clinic. They said that some girl came in to get tested for hiv, this message was left at 7am.  They said " and unfortunatly u were one of the people that she slepted with, so we'll be calling you soon"  From this day on, i have yet to hear from them.  Could this all be a joke? Past few people i was with have my #. They could've called me. I dont understand this at all.

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« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2006, 08:17:16 AM »
Det,

I advised you when you first came here that anyone who is sexually active should be having regular sexual health care check ups. You said you would, but you obviously haven't. Why don't you just go get tested and get it over with? Wringing your hands won't change whether or not you have been infected with anything. Just go get tested and collect what I'm expecting to be a negative result.

There's not much more we can do for you here. We've explained what is a risk and how to protect yourself, now the rest is up to you.

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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2006, 12:28:27 AM »
so far i got tested for gohn and clamidya, both neg, im awaiting sphyliss results. Im still too afraid to test for hiv. YES! i know! i gotta do it, but i read so much stuff here, i used condoms years ago and i figure i was fine, until now, i read stuff about people getting hiv with condom use. How can you guys promote condom use when people still get the virus anyway? I kinda wonder if i have aids now. I dont feel sick, i havent lost weight. Im just stressed out, shaking. Makes me wonder how much more time i have? And i could be drug resistant to every med. If that was the case, im done for. I guess, nothings safe anymore  :-[   This whole things got me stressed and depressed. I almost addmitted myself to the hospital weeks ago, my friend keeps telling me that im going to die after the incident with my last partner (her cousin)  I wonder if shes right?  I dunno what to do, im too scared to get tested, i've had alot of partners with condoms tho, thats y overall im afraid

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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2006, 04:57:11 AM »
Referring to your post about the call in March from the county health department, it sounds like a hoax to me.  They don't get that specific, especially not on an answering machine, they either speak to you face to face or over the phone, and they haven't called you back either, so I don't think that was real.

Using the term "clean" to describe someone who doesn't have HIV is really rude and insensitive.  I find it interesting you would use such terms when you are trying to ask us for help--and we are HIV positive people.  Use some respect.

Condoms are reliable for HIV prevention.  If they are used correctly, consistently, and do not break--you won't get it.  HIV cannot pass through intact latex, no way no how.  Studies have proven how effective condoms are.  Also the countless magnetic couples out there who do just fine and the positive doesn't infect the negative.  Your friend doesn't know what she is talking about (HIV doesn't equal death) and is rather insensitive anyway. 

Get tested 13 weeks after your incident of unprotected sex.  You cannot go by symptoms, you need the test.  I am really rather confused why you are even posting here anyway.  If you are going to ignore all advice and not even get tested, which is the only way to tell if you are infected, why are you here?  A rapid test can tell you in 20 minutes.
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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2006, 12:35:30 PM »
in regards to "clean and dirty" Forgive me, i do agree that those terms arent appropriate. I hang around a miserable person that tries to brainwash me. I guess i have trouble dealing with fear, and its all me now.  Again, i am sorry for using those terms. That was uncalled for

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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2006, 12:42:59 PM »
You read stuff about people getting HIV with condom use on here?  If so, can you tell me where you saw that? 
AIDS isn't for sissies.

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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2006, 12:04:22 AM »
Thunter34

I was checking out the posts from jane007 and rugger

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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2006, 05:29:21 AM »
Guess you didn't read the replies. Did you notice she Registered Aug 8th and last time here was the 12th. She got caught trying to start trouble and it didn't work.

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« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2006, 05:41:33 AM »
det,

The results from patient report and scientific studies beg to differ with each other. Highly controlled, well thought out studies conducted with hundreds of poz/neg couples over many years have shown us, without doubt, that condoms do work.

However, patient report is notoriously unreliable. People sometimes cannot bring themselves to admit that they engaged in unsafe sexual behaviour. Others forget due to the influence of drink and/or drugs.

There have been three major "serodiscordant" (poz/neg couples) studies, the longest of which lasted for ten years and involved hundreds of couples. This translates into many acts of sexual intercourse. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one. This shows us the reliability of correct and consistent condom use when it comes to the prevention of hiv transmission.

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Re: i keep getting told bad stuff
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2006, 10:39:22 AM »
Rod,
Were u talking about jane007? Cause that was a really wired post. I didnt read the rest of it tho. So....ok then. I mean when i was at the health department last week, the nurse assursed me that condoms do the job, i mean i dont have clamidiya (surprised about that too) considering thats a common infection in this country. But i do need to seek help for sure, this isnt good for my health at all. I do appriciate u guys trying to help.

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Ok, here goes.
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2006, 11:00:05 PM »
Hello everyone.  Heres my story.  I am a 25 yr old male, hetrosexual  (not that it makes any difference)  8 years ago or so in 99 i started sleeping with escorts (cause they were really hot) i had that life style from 99 to 02. So about 25 total. All with condoms.  I had one night stands with 4 other women, all with condoms tho.  So far, no symptoms of anything, but never got tested because i assume condoms do the trick. (not always that case tho)  Later on in 02 i was in a realionship with a gril, i was fully aware of her status and we slepted together alot with no condoms (she showed me her test results). Broke up 4 months later, and had 4 one night stands, 2 with condoms, however, 2 w/o.  Those 2 w/o condoms are only once and breif 2 minute sessions tho. What i found amazing is that even after my g/f at the time in 02, after we broke up, she got tested and didnt contract anything of what i may have gotten from the escorts.  Last week i did get tested for hepetits B, gohn and clam. All were amazingly negative!  I am really afraid of Hiv tho.  I know i got it, im scared to get tested for it tho, im just not sure if i got it from the escorts or others?  i feel so foolish.  I know that symptoms dont show up for 10 years of hiv going to aids, but im scared that i may have aids now and nothing could be done to prolong my life, or can it? Your help would be awsome

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Re: Ok, here goes.
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2006, 11:55:06 PM »
yes i know, i acted irresponsibly.

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Re: Ok, here goes.
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2006, 12:27:30 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You

Hey Sexadditc007...

From what you described, due to your heavy activity with sex and with some being unprotected, you may want to consider getting a HIV test done to find out if you are positive or not.

When engaging in Anal/Vaginal Sex, you should always use a condom for your protection.


Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.

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Re: Ok, here goes.
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2006, 12:37:05 AM »
i guess im poz then according to what u said :(  i've used condoms for the majority, im too scared to test! i dunno how much long to live i have

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« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2006, 12:48:44 AM »
No, he is simply saying that because there was some unprotected activity involved, you may wish to get an HIV test (that will most likely end up NEGATIVE) simply to calm your nerves and give you some peace of mind about the whole thing.  It would really be doing yourself a favor in that regard, kiddo!  ;)

It reads as though you only had very brief moments without the condoms, and female to male transmission occurs far less often than male to female anyway.

You'll probably be in the clear so buck up, little camper!   ;D

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« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2006, 12:49:46 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You

Hey Sexadditc007...

I can certainly understand your inner anxiety right now. There is no guessing with HIV. With your heavy sexual activity with some being unprotected, then you should consider getting a test done to see if you are positive or not.

No guess work. Have a test done in order to determine your status.


Thanks Tim for your clarification.

Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.

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« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2006, 01:14:05 AM »
what do u guys think of escorts? safe or no?

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« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2006, 01:18:24 AM »
No.. escorts have high risks of having HIV because of the many people they sleep with.


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« Reply #40 on: December 23, 2006, 01:25:43 AM »
then i guess i am poz :( guess i'll be moving this to the "i just tested poz forum" condoms failed

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« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2006, 01:26:37 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You

Hey Sexadditc007...

In my opinion, when a individual is having Sex with multiple partners that do not disclose of their status along with a number of "unknowns" that may be present with this type of lifestyle activity, then they are running in a higher risk category due to the frequency of there Sexual encounters with partners they do not have a background on.

When looking at this, it is quite possible that the individual may have taken a risk with unprotected sex with a partner due to the "heat of the moment" at any given time. By them doing this, it puts them at a "higher risk" to contract the HIV virus.

In short, there is a lot of things that can. may, or will go on during a sexual encounter. What goes on behind closed doors, they are not going to share it with their next client.

Play it safe. When in engaging in Sex either Anal or Vaginal, wear a condom and protect yourself.



Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.

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« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2006, 01:28:59 AM »
Yes, I AM Supporting You

Hey Sexadditc007...

Do not assume if you are HIV positive. Get tested to know the facts. Especially if there was unprotected sex that was involved and condom breakage.



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« Reply #43 on: December 23, 2006, 01:33:36 AM »
im more worried about those escorts i was with, i had a dr tell me that they arent high risk because theyt always use protection. But how much protection can condoms have???  I might already have aids and not even know it? i dont feel sick or anything, im going nuts! I might die within a year or so

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« Reply #44 on: December 23, 2006, 01:34:30 AM »
i've used protection with each escort btw

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« Reply #45 on: December 23, 2006, 01:38:10 AM »
Hold up!  

Shy Boy:  As someone very new to this site and a poster to the 'Am I Infected?' thread yourself, I don't think you are in a very good position to be handing out HIV advice to fellow concerned visitors here.  

SexAddict:  Settle down, for goodness sake!  Read what we have just written to you!  We have both (Eldon and I) advised you to see about getting a test to relieve your worries and ease your mind.  I also personally just told you that, based on what you presented, you were most likely going to be fine.  You then let one sentence of gloom and doom (from someone who is here asking the same types of questions you are) cancel everything we have just said and send you back into fear and worry.  Take a breath.  

If you have an exposure risk, you need to get a test just to settle the issue once and for all.  No one here can do any crystal ball diagnosis for you (positive or negative) over the internet.  

Also note that it isn't a very fair thing to tag prostitutes and others as 'carriers' & such.  After all, it takes two for that tango.  They can't be prostitutes unless there are people willing to be clients, now can they?  The bottom line is to protect yourself with condoms when you are having sex, and get a test if you happen to feel something has caused you to be at an additional risk.

That's really all there is to it.

Good luck!

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« Reply #46 on: December 23, 2006, 01:39:36 AM »
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Hey Sexadditc007 ...

I DO understand where you are coming from with this. I gave you feedback on the situation with "escorts". There are a number of "unknowns" that exist that you do not know about.

Right now, your thoughts are racing because of a lot of "unkowns". CALM DOWN. The BEST thing that you CAN DO in this case is to go and get tested. It will give you a peace-of-mind.

Worrying is not going to resolve the issue, it is only going to make it worse.

Thanks Tim for your clarification.

Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.

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« Reply #47 on: December 23, 2006, 01:44:05 AM »
i assure u guys, condoms were worn when i was with those escorts. my thing is, im not sure if they work or not.  Again, i tested negative for hepetits B, clamydia and ghon. Could that be a good sign somewhat?

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« Reply #48 on: December 23, 2006, 01:52:40 AM »
Used properly, condoms work.  There's no point in trying to use results from one set of tests to establish results for another.  That's like trying to use a hearing test to find out if someone's blind.

There's no way around it, kid:  If you want to find out for sure, you'll need to get a test.  If you want to get the test, you'll just have to suck it up and be brave like everyone else.  All these 'but what about this?' and 'what about that?' deals are just not going to bring you the peace of mind you are seeking.  Although it sounds like a fairly minimal risk to me, there appears to be some risk involved (since you did have some sex without condoms), so you will have to get a test to find out for sure. 

If you used condoms with the escorts, that should not be a risk.  I am referring to the instances above you mentioned where there was some insertion without condoms....and even that did not sound like an avalanche of risk either.  Still, want to know?  Get a test.
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« Reply #49 on: December 23, 2006, 01:55:40 AM »
ur right, i do agree. i guess im just afriad my cd4 is gonna be too low to treat if i come back poz. Im scared the dr's will say theres nothing they can do for me.  I mean, the escorts themselves put the condoms on me, my urethra was covered is that good enough????????

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« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2006, 02:02:57 AM »
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Hey Sexadditc007...

STOP, LOOK, AND LISTEN. Will you do that for just a second? Good. Understand that your fears are much worse when you are anticipating the situation than they will be when you actually in the situation.

Do yourself a favor, ASK yourself WHY you are acting this way. Does it make any sense to worry? No. It does not. So where does this leave you? Go and GET TESTED to give you a peace-of-mind.

Thunter34 was clear in his post above.

Enjoy your Holiday Season and Thank you for sharing.

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« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2006, 02:06:07 AM »
Child, we've got people here who were literally hanging on their last t-cells when they found out.  I didn't have any to spare myself when I learned my diagnosis.  There's no such thing as having CD4's that are 'too low to treat'.  It just doesn't work that way.  

Yes, that was good enough about the condoms with the escorts.  Enough about the escorts already!  The escorts are not the issue.  Repeat:  the escorts are not the issue.  The only conceivable risks involved from what you have described were the instances of unprotected sex you had.  

I'm done here.  After this, I've told you all I have to say.

Use condoms for sexual encounters.
If you feel you've experienced an additional risk, get a test to find out for sure.

Beyond this point, you are just entertaining yourself with worry.
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« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2006, 07:51:32 AM »
sexaddict,



Can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used detpiston7788

Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread, which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.

You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.

I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.

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« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2006, 03:50:12 PM »
Yes.  Since I now see you online, a very special thanks for keeping me up an additional hour and a half trying to help you address concerns that were already answered in your other incarnation.  Gee, thanks.
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« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2006, 04:21:35 PM »
i apologize ann, no excuse. ill use detpiston7788 from now on

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« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2006, 06:15:51 PM »
det,

I've merged your threads and disabled your sexaddict account. Don't do it again.

Keep all your additional thoughts or questions in this thread please.

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« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2007, 02:40:01 PM »
check this out, interesting isn't it? 


My husband is positive and I am negative. We went to his infectious disease doctor this week. She told us that the best way to assure my not getting infected was to NOT have Sex AT ALL. She said that condoms do not protect people from getting the virus. She said that the HIV can penetrate through and we should find alternative options for sexual intimacy. So, is she correct about the condom not protecting? What exactly is the ratio of condom use preventing HIV and causing HIV? Thank You!
                                                                             A Dr is saying condoms dont protect, so i guess the dr's right

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« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2007, 03:06:36 PM »
I guess your Dr. doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. If a condom is used consistently and correctly with plenty of water base lube it will be 100% effective. HIV virus can not go through an intact latex or poly condom. To be honest with you, I don't believe an ID doctor said that at all. You may try to pull the wool over some WW eyes, but you are not going to do it to us. I guess you will no longer need to be coming back to this forum. Good-bye.

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« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2007, 03:10:31 PM »
wait, hold on a second. I wasnt trying to start trouble or anything. That happend to be a quote that i got from a sight (wasnt my dr that said that) Im just dumbfounded y a spcialist dosent seem to agree about condom usage. I apologize again, i wasnt starting trouble or anything. Rod, please. i wont do it again, i really do want to stay here as a member and learn more about this

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« Reply #59 on: January 04, 2007, 03:12:04 PM »
what about just a regular latex condom? None lub or anything. Are those ok?

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« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2007, 03:20:17 PM »
Is that a correct use of a condom? You do it without lube you're asking for it to fail. If you don't know anything about condoms at the bottom of Ann's post you will see a condom link.

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« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2007, 03:32:38 PM »
then im in deep trouble, all i simply did was put it on and it stayed on from start to finish, so my chances are larger of contracting hiv still?

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« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2007, 03:38:30 PM »
Are you paying attention? Did you read the condom link? Read the lube link also. If the condom didn't fail you didn't have a risk.

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« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2007, 03:39:23 PM »
can i define "condom failure" please?

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« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2007, 03:42:09 PM »
oops  i mean can u define "condom failure please?

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« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2007, 03:43:54 PM »
It tares and looks like a hula dress. When it fails it's not a subtle event, you won’t mistake it as being intact.

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« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2007, 03:47:19 PM »
o ok, then most of the people i've used condoms with were from start to finish ALL LATEX. scared me a lil,lol. 

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« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2007, 11:15:19 PM »
i've had blood drawn a few weeks ago, but im still too scared to get results! I guess, im scared, not only to find out im positive but that my cd4 count is really low, low enough to where i could die in a  year or so.  And i might be resistant to meds. if i am, am i pretty much done for? 

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« Reply #68 on: January 18, 2007, 03:01:41 AM »
detpiston, you didn't have a risk and you didn't need to test to begin with. Pick up your test and move on.

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« Reply #69 on: January 18, 2007, 11:01:32 PM »
how could i have not have a risk? i've had alot of partners, majority with condoms, but 3 w/o 

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« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2007, 11:05:28 PM »
Even the vatican says condoms don't work. 

Well I'm convinced.
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« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2007, 02:21:54 AM »
Detpiston

Stop whining and get those result. It will be negative and there is no need to fear to pick a test up. The test only reflects your status.

I´ll never get it why people are afraid to get the tests, what´s done is done. The test is only the prove. The actions beforehand is what people should be afraid of.

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« Reply #72 on: May 09, 2007, 02:24:35 AM »
i was gonna post in my old thread but it warned me about replying in a topic over 60 days old etc, im gonna get my poz results tomarrow, i just read all the stuff here that its easy for men to get hiv from women in some of these posts after a 1 time session  ( i had 3 breif sessions)  Im such a mess! The whole "its harder for a guy to get it from a female" bullshit!!! I read about how some wife got it from her husband cause he had a one night stand, im so fucking scared, u have no idea!!!  My last partner really scares me from what i hear bout her, i dont wanna die!!! I know i will be positive, how can i deal with this, someone please help!!!

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« Reply #73 on: May 09, 2007, 03:02:48 AM »
Det,

I think the 60 day post warning only applies to long dead threads in the other forums. You should still keep all your additional thoughts, questions and comments in your original thread.

MtD

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« Reply #74 on: May 09, 2007, 03:13:52 AM »
sorry my bad, but can anyone give me support!! im such a mess

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« Reply #75 on: May 09, 2007, 06:30:32 AM »
You are in a mess because you don't listen. We'll not hash out condom issues with you again. If that is what you are going to discuss, go back and read your replies from your first posts. That subject is a dead issue.

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« Reply #76 on: May 09, 2007, 08:26:50 AM »
det,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

As you've always used condoms, I'm fully expecting your result to be negative and so should you.

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« Reply #77 on: May 09, 2007, 09:58:43 AM »
You cant get HIV from protected sex.  Doesnt happen.
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
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« Reply #78 on: May 09, 2007, 10:54:02 AM »
i understand, im convinced that condoms work, im tho stressing about the 3 partners i had w/o condoms, all tho sessions lasted for a min, still from what i read in a thread under "hetro men"  its pretty easy to get hiv, im worried sick!!!  Like i said, i got blood drawn in dec, from this day on i have yet to pick up results, how can i be a man bout this

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« Reply #79 on: May 09, 2007, 11:05:45 AM »
HIV is NOT easy to transmit.  Especially from female to male.

Just nut up and get your results.  Not knowing apparently isnt making you LESS stressed now is it?

Just go get em and quit whinin about it.  Be an adult.  Think I relished getting mine?  Oh, and yours wont be positive im betting!
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« Reply #80 on: May 09, 2007, 11:07:05 AM »
ill take u up on that bet! I'll give u my whole paycheck if im neg

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« Reply #81 on: May 09, 2007, 11:07:50 AM »
det,

Yes, hiv infection can occur from female to male in just one instance. BUT... it isn't all that common. Your brief possible exposures are pretty low on the risk scale. Hiv IS much more difficult to transmit to the insertive partner and the odds ARE in your favour.

Let's just suppose you are hiv positive. Ask yourself is it better to know now, when you could start on treatments if needed and save yourself getting sick, or would it be better to find out when you collapse with PCP someday?

Grow some balls and pick up what is likely to be your negative result. Either way, it's far better to know your status than live in perpetual fear of the unknown.

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #82 on: May 09, 2007, 11:15:51 AM »
ill take u up on that bet! I'll give u my whole paycheck if im neg

Only way to get my money is get your results.  Nut up.  Go get em.
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« Reply #83 on: May 09, 2007, 11:19:51 AM »
well, ur all right, no guarantees for anything, however if i become +, i would like to stay here as a member u all are cool! Either way, i will not have sex for a looong time when this is over!!

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« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2007, 11:25:11 AM »
Damn!  AC, you're getting the paycheck if det comes back negative from sex with a condom?

I want in on that action!



Sidenote:  Det, you STILL haven't gone to get those blood draw results?  Good grief.  AC is right:  nut up.
Grow a pair and go get your results.

PS-  Yes, we are really cool, ain't we?
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« Reply #85 on: May 09, 2007, 11:28:56 AM »
well, ur all right, no guarantees for anything, however if i become +, i would like to stay here as a member u all are cool! Either way, i will not have sex for a looong time when this is over!!

Not having sex is an IMPOSSIBLE goal.  Me and the wife are like bunnies and she is negative.  Use condoms, correctly and everytime and you too can hump all ya like!
LIFE is not a race to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in a pretty and well-preserved body, but, rather to skid in broadside,
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« Reply #86 on: May 09, 2007, 11:31:35 AM »
haha good point, easier said than done.  So if exposed to the hair, does this virus die? Is that y its hard to transmitt?

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« Reply #87 on: May 09, 2007, 11:32:15 AM »
air i mean!!

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« Reply #88 on: May 09, 2007, 11:33:13 AM »
PPS-  I will never understand the tendency of so many of the Worried Wells to forego reading and rereading the Lessons & stuff in favor of reading and rereading other WW posts in the AAI? forum.  That's the LAST place I would want to read for any peace of mind about HIV infection!  Just more "what if?" scenarios from people who are just as uninformed and/or flipped out as you are!  

Le sigh.

And then mining from that only bits and pieces.  Like det mentions, "All that harder to get from female to male BS".  And then cites an anecdotal example of male to female transmission.

Le double sigh.

Exposed to the air?  Hang on:  Link forthcoming.
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« Reply #89 on: May 09, 2007, 11:35:49 AM »
Since it would seem we have nothing better to do, we poz people were just discussing that very thing here yesterday.

I give you...

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=12160.0

And remember, you can read but don't try to post in that thread.

It gives a very detailed explanation of how the virus deteriorates and becomes inactive outside the body.

Excellent reading...for once you have returned from getting your test results.  Now get with it!   ;)
« Last Edit: May 09, 2007, 11:37:52 AM by thunter34 »
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Re: im prepared
« Reply #90 on: May 09, 2007, 11:38:14 AM »
Its hard to transmit because of the way its designed and its predetermined vectors of transmission.  It's fragile and breaks down easily for a multitude of reasons, also it requires a very specific cell to latch onto to begin its reproduction in the body.  Alot of factors work AGAINST it.

By the way, I hope your paycheck is a biggun, I got a hottub I been keeping my eye on!
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Re: im prepared
« Reply #91 on: May 14, 2007, 06:36:43 PM »
i just cant do this!! Im too scared to go to the health depart. :'( I dunno what to do if i test poz.  I dunno how im gonna break this to my family!! Im so sure im poz because of my stupid mistakes!! If anyone here can send a personal message, email, whatever that can help me would be awsome! Im right now never felt this much fear in my life! I cant function  :'(

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #92 on: May 14, 2007, 06:41:58 PM »
i just cant do this!! Im too scared to go to the health depart. I dunno what to do if i test poz.  I dunno how im gonna break this to my family!! Im so sure im poz because of my stupid mistakes!! If anyone here can send a personal message, email, whatever that can help me would be awsome! Im right now never felt this much fear in my life! I cant function

Oh for crying out loud Det, toughen up!

Just ring the bloody health department and get your results. As Goderator Ann told you:

Grow some balls and pick up what is likely to be your negative result. Either way, it's far better to know your status than live in perpetual fear of the unknown.

It's not difficult. So stop with the hystrionics and put yourself and the rest of us out of your misery.

MtD

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #93 on: May 15, 2007, 12:10:05 AM »
gee thanks, i guess everyone here hates me, i was gonna become a member here permantly when i got my poz results, but.. guess im not welcomed here.  How can i be neg anyway? Lot of partners, i read stuff that people gotten hiv despite condom use. besides, how can a man be protected from vaginal fluids on a condom? I can see how a female can, but i dont get it how a guy

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« Reply #94 on: May 15, 2007, 12:58:09 AM »
gee thanks, i guess everyone here hates me, i was gonna become a member here permantly when i got my poz results, but.. guess im not welcomed here.  How can i be neg anyway? Lot of partners, i read stuff that people gotten hiv despite condom use. besides, how can a man be protected from vaginal fluids on a condom? I can see how a female can, but i dont get it how a guy

Oh Det, puh-leeeeeeeeeeeze! It's time to come down off the cross, darling.

Nobody here hates you, but honestly you've gotten yourself in a terrible flap over five-eighths of fuck all. The likelihood of you being infected as a result of what you've described is pretty remote. But you're not going to know unless you collect those results.

Now you owe it to yourself and the rest of us who've patiently (and not so patiently) answered your questions and advised you in this matter to get those results and move on.

I'm so convinced of a negative result, that if you test positive I'll eat Andy Velez's hat.

Now go and make the call.

MtD

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #95 on: May 15, 2007, 01:22:02 AM »
what are ur thoughts on condoms, may i ask?

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« Reply #96 on: May 15, 2007, 01:25:36 AM »
Latex condoms used with water based lubricant will prevent the transmission of HIV and a range of other sexually transmissible infections.

MtD

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #97 on: May 15, 2007, 06:46:00 AM »
Det,

You have a choice. You can go collect your negative result and come back here and tell us all about it, or you can continue to wring your hands - and get a time out. There's nothing more we can do for you here and the time out would be to encourage you to get some anxiety counseling to help you deal with this so you can collect your negative results and move on with your life.

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #98 on: October 04, 2007, 02:29:07 AM »
Well,  i still didnt get the balls to get results  I just read a thread from someone in the living with hiv forum saying that they're ready for death, and this girl i know told me hiv is a death sentance.  I dont wanna belive it.  I know, I gotta get tested. Its so fucken scary.  Cause all the sex i had. Regarding condom use, it isnt perfect.  I watched law and order, and this nurse on that show said condoms arent effective.  I just dont know what to do if i do test poz.  How can i tell my family this?  PEople here said female to male transmission is low, but i still read posts of hetro guys still getting it.  How could i deal with being poz and trying to live for a long time?

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« Reply #99 on: October 04, 2007, 02:47:51 AM »
Well,  i still didnt get the balls to get results  I just read a thread from someone in the living with hiv forum saying that they're ready for death, and this girl i know told me hiv is a death sentance.  I dont wanna belive it.  I know, I gotta get tested. Its so fucken scary.  Cause all the sex i had. Regarding condom use, it isnt perfect.  I watched law and order, and this nurse on that show said condoms arent effective.  I just dont know what to do if i do test poz.  How can i tell my family this?  PEople here said female to male transmission is low, but i still read posts of hetro guys still getting it.  How could i deal with being poz and trying to live for a long time?

Det,

You've crossed the line.

We don't tolerate trawling, but you've gone too far.

This thread is reported.

MtD
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Re: im prepared
« Reply #100 on: October 04, 2007, 02:53:41 AM »
i dont mean to be a troll!!! look im scared ok????  what am i supposed to do??

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #101 on: October 04, 2007, 02:55:39 AM »
Det,

Just shut up. Really. Just shut the fuck up.

 >:(

MtD

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #102 on: October 04, 2007, 03:00:58 AM »
Matt sir,  i didnt mean to disprect anyone.  Im a W.W with anxiety issues.  I needed to express stuff and im sorry if i come off as being an asshole.  This website has awsome info in terms of hiv and support and i really do want to remain a  member regardless if i test poz or not.  In either case u all have been awsome. and again i do apologize for being insensitive

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« Reply #103 on: October 04, 2007, 03:02:20 AM »
I am so sorry that your trawling of the forums led you to a person who is braver than either of us is ever likely to be. I am sorry that you read the posts of person whose words, whose spirit, whose passion for live exceeds your own. And mine.

How totaly dare you?

HIV does kill people. And the sunny face we put on it is, most charitably, a means to placate the hyterical among us.

The salient point here is that HIV does kill people. Good people, nice people, fucking heroes among us in whose wake we are severey, permanently diminished.

But the thing is, you most likely do not have this virus.

and to be the most possibly fair I can be at this terrible time, I  can only ask that you show the most basic respect and compassion for those who have this virus, who are living and dying from it.

This is not about you. It is not about any of us.

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #104 on: October 04, 2007, 03:11:34 AM »
Look, i didnt mean to put anyone down.  I give lots of encouragment for people that are PoZ.  This is a misunderstanding forsure.  Im someone that has an unkown status, and im scared.  Im just scared to die.  Im scared of leaving my family and friends.  All of you have better knowledge of this than me.  So i can i ask you if things will be ok if i test poz? Im sure u were in the same shoes as I , im not putting anyone down. 

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #105 on: October 04, 2007, 03:13:01 AM »
what do u guys want me to do then?   I dont want any bad feelings with anyone on this site , really

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #106 on: October 04, 2007, 03:58:29 AM »
Matty and JK

As much as understand your anger against Detpiston and his lack of respect I think it would have been best to have ignored his comments and given the Moderators time to respond to your reported post.

I personally don't see any need to take this further...but will leave it up to the other Moderators to voice their own opinion on this.

Detpiston....I hope a lesson has been learnt here today...respect the forums and it's members and they will respect you....you have been given good advise, listen to it, go and get your results and move on.

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #107 on: October 04, 2007, 04:02:19 AM »
forgive me mamn.  And like i said, i didnt mean to offend anyone. We're all human beings here.  i apologize for anything i said was offensive. i do wish to stay as a member on this site

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #108 on: October 04, 2007, 04:19:45 AM »
Det,

Enough is enough already. You've been coming here for nearly a year now, yet you still refuse to test. I've just reviewed your entire thread and it looks like you don't really even need to test as you never once admit to actually having unprotected intercourse.

If you truly are so afraid to die, you'd get tested. Not knowing your status doesn't CHANGE your status. If you are positive as you so greatly fear, then you are putting your life in danger by not testing. The main group of people who are dying of this virus in the Western world today are those who leave it too late to find out they're positive.

It's up to you. Live in anxious ignorance or get tested and collect what I fully expect to be a negative result and get on with your life.

I'm giving you that time out I warned you about back in May, as your situation obviously hasn't changed. We cannot force you to test and get this over with, but we can stop you posting here until you've done so. You've got a month in which to do it. Now DO IT.

Do not create yet another account to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned, no questions asked.

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Re: im prepared
« Reply #109 on: October 04, 2007, 02:15:42 PM »
Stop with all the drama, will ya!  We've given you HIV science-based responses and you just on indulging in histrionics about this and that which haven't happened and from what I can see aren't going to happen.

So we've done our part.You need to go and get tested to resolve this issue for yourself. We can't add anything more. And we aren't going to indulge you in using this site for your histrionics.

If you come back with more of the same you're going to get timed out.
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