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Offline wolfter

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Lasik eye surgery
« on: June 16, 2014, 07:18:20 AM »
I've been researching quite a bit since making a follow up appointment for an in depth  consultation at a well known lasik center in Newark, OH.   At the initial consult, he concluded I could benefit from the procedure but would still require glasses.  My vision became horrid after the meningitis episode that only partially improved.

It would be great to be able to not have to wear glasses constantly.  I'm finding conflicting views on being HIV+ and having the procedure.  Has anyone here had an experience doing this?  2 of my siblings had the procedure at the same facility with excellent results but they're not positive.  Neither have to wear glasses ever but their vision was never as bad as mine.

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Offline Jeff G

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2014, 12:03:21 PM »
HIV is not a factor for this surgery if you are stable . I was hoping to have this surgery but was told that I was not a good candidate because the correction would need to be so steep the outcome was doubtful ... and I can't explain exactly what that means either LOL .

I was thinking they did not want to do the procedure be use of my HIV status so I went for another opinion and the new doctor warned me very strongly that I was indeed not a good candidate for the surgery and that I needed to stop shopping to have it done ... he told me that he knows plenty of doctors who would do the surgery just for the money and I would be worse off and still need glasses and contacts .

Greg ... please be careful and ask a doctor you can trust to refer you to someone for another opinion . It set my warning bells off when I read that you may still need glasses .
I got lucky with my second opinion and avoided making a costly mistake by seeing the right doctor at the right time . 
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Offline Jody

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2014, 01:31:07 PM »
I have been near sighted since I was 15 and still only need glasses for distance, such as TV and movies.  I have never required reading glasses.  When I inquired about laser eye surgery the eye doc said it would correct my near sightedness but I would subsequently need glasses for reading.  So I thought that was silly to trade one issue for another and I decided not to do it.  Good luck Greg.

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Offline Dan0

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2014, 02:53:20 PM »
I had the surgery (a more involved surgery called LK) done pre-HIV.  It was the most well-spent money I have ever doled out.  It was absolutely liberating to be able to get up in the morning and look in the mirror (frightening as it was) and not see a vague outline.  The only major downside of this was the horrible night vision and halo-effect of oncoming headlight.  I had a prescription that helped with that and after a couple years it either went away or I became accustomed to it. Recent changes to my sight were brought up to my ID Doc and his reply was "Welcome to the world of aging!"

There are two caveats:

For years I could go without glasses and had near perfect vision after the surgery.  Now, with adjustments that we all go through, my sight for distance is not what it used to be. I can still drive but there is a noticeable improvement with glasses.  The hassle of "where I put them" is a constant reminder of these changes.  Still, the years without were wonderful. 

Contacts - I recently tried to get them again to take care of the issue above.  Come to find out that some eye surgeries preclude you from a proper fitting in the future. NOW, after trying out about a dozen different types to see what I could handle, I can have contacts to take care of the distance but then I can't read! All part of the aging process! It is amazing how much you rely on reading vision so these wasted dollars just sit in a cabinet and I 'make do'.
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Offline Irish Eyes

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2014, 03:39:01 PM »
My dad has always worn glasses and decided to have the surgery.
I think they adjusted his vision so he didnt have to wear glasses while driving which was fine but now he spends more time looking for glasses every time he needs to read or write something.
I recon its more of a nucience for him now.
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Offline wolfter

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2014, 04:28:47 PM »
Thanks for all the input all.  I've worn glasses since grade school but could do quite a few things without them.  Now I need them for everything.  It gets frustrating as hell when I awake and can't feel them.  I have to throw them on even to use the damn restroom.  :(

The surgeon I'm dealing with is very reputable and has been quite honest with me.  It'll be expensive and I'll more than likely always wear glasses but he's convinced he can improve it enough where I can have some vision without them. 

The other cost associated with this is that I'll have to replace all the lenses in my vast array of eyewear. 

He says he has performed the surgery on other HIV+ and the potential side affects are no different than the general population...I think he said it's like 1 out of a 1,000 who have complications.  I have to weigh the risk/benefit analysis.

OH, and my doctor also says there should be no issues either and agrees it would be a great benefit to not be legally blind sans glasses.

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Offline wolfter

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2016, 09:13:33 AM »
I have another appointment this Wednesday for another consult.  They have improved the techniques to the point where almost anyone can have the procedure. 

Excited again at the prospect of not needing glasses.  :)
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Offline pittman

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2016, 10:22:54 PM »
Good luck. I absolutely love, love love, the post surgery sight I gained.

It's been 10 (15?) years now, and I got some glasses again, but only for watching TV. My vision is still good enough for legally driving without my glasses.  Alas, when I get tired, I have to resort to reading glasses now.

Offline pbateman87

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2016, 08:55:38 AM »
Hi everyone

I have enquired about doing the surgury here in the UK. One clinic where I live refused to offer the service to me unless my CD4 was 500 or above; this was after them speaking with the surgeon - whereas one clinic agrees to go ahead if my CD4 200 or above.

What were your guys CD4s when you initially went through with it?

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2016, 09:26:24 AM »
I've had a cornea transplant and a lens replacement and my status was not an issue. Their main concern was that I was stable and UD.
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Offline californiarunner

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2016, 04:30:14 PM »
I had the eye surgery previous to my HIV, and it was THE BEST thing I could have done. I never had any eyesight problems after that, not even the "halo affect" that some people mentioned.

I dont see how being on a successful antiviral regimen with undetectable counts, should prevent you from  having this surgery. It took about 15 minutes, it was very easy, and woke up the next morning with near perfect eyesight.

Going outside when its raining and not worrying about eyeglasses, along with all the other benefits, is the greatest!

Offline wolfter

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2016, 05:20:52 PM »
3 hours post op and I'm thrilled.  Still reaching for my glasses before realizing they're not needed any longer. 

Wearing glasses since grade school, this is such a huge relief.  I'm so fricking happy that I can't put it into words.  After 40 plus years of needing them for everything and enduring ridicule from the youth of the time, I now have no need for them.

We have an annual reunion where I won't be wearing them but I promise, I won't comment on how clearly how large many became.  :)
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Offline wolfter

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2016, 07:12:26 PM »
Had my one day follow up appointment today.  He said everything is healing nicely and I should expect near perfect vision in short order.  I guess they do an "over correction" for the distance vision so that when the lens flattens out, the close up vision improves.

My far vision today was 20/15 which is beyond average but I should expect that to decrease as my close vision improves.

I'm still thrilled beyond belief with my decision to have this done even with the slight possibility for some reading glasses. 

I haven't had a single side effect that was listed on the literature. 
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Offline Lightfighter

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2016, 12:46:34 AM »
What do you mean by you should expect that to decrease? 

If you were 20/15 the day after surgery you'll most likely stay that way. It's also very possible that you'll get better as you heal.

LASIK is awesome. I had it last year and am 20/15.

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2016, 07:43:30 AM »
What do you mean by you should expect that to decrease? 

If you were 20/15 the day after surgery you'll most likely stay that way. It's also very possible that you'll get better as you heal.

LASIK is awesome. I had it last year and am 20/15.

The way it was explained is that because of my severe astigmatism and being far-sided, they overcorrect the cornea to allow for some flatening.  As this occurs, my far vision should peak at 20/20 while my near vision will increase to the point of not needing glasses.  This happens over several weeks.  I'm currently only needing readers at +125 so he believes I'll be totally eye glass free in mere weeks.

I hope I'm explaining this correctly.
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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2016, 08:04:45 AM »
Congratulations Greg !
You will now have extra room on your night stand  :)
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Offline Lightfighter

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2016, 09:00:36 PM »
The way it was explained is that because of my severe astigmatism and being far-sided, they overcorrect the cornea to allow for some flatening.  As this occurs, my far vision should peak at 20/20 while my near vision will increase to the point of not needing glasses.  This happens over several weeks.  I'm currently only needing readers at +125 so he believes I'll be totally eye glass free in mere weeks.

I hope I'm explaining this correctly.

Gotcha. I had a real bad astigmatism myself. Everything is perfect now.

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Re: Lasik eye surgery
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2016, 01:27:20 PM »
I did all the registers and close outs yesterday without wearing readers.  thinking I'll work to be a consultant since I'm having so many people questioning me about the specifics
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