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Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« on: June 03, 2014, 06:09:29 PM »
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2014, 06:29:48 PM »
I am looking forward to the new "Continuity" project/integration coming in OS 10.10 and iOS 8

I am also watching a movie from 9 years ago with Goop Mistress Paltrow and a 24 year old Gyllenhaal.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2014, 06:40:52 PM »
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2014, 06:48:36 PM »
have another snapping turtle in the pond that needs removal.

also waiting to get a refund from HP for a computer under warranty. the "upgraded replacement had issues of its own.

oh, and a hangnail.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 07:04:38 PM »
I just got finished stuffing a 10 foot long sea serpent topiary with sphagnum moss for my garden ... will plant it tomorrow with Chinese jasmine .

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 07:23:15 PM »
I went grocery shopping today.  Oh, and got gas at $3.89/gallon.  It keeps going up and down in price and I'm frankly sick of it. 
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2014, 07:29:31 PM »
I went grocery shopping today.  Oh, and got gas at $3.89/gallon.  It keeps going up and down in price and I'm frankly sick of it. 

I was thinking about this today . A few years ago people where outraged at gas prices and demanding to know why it had gone up so much ... we got used to high price and not much is said anymore . I wonder now how long until $4.85 will be the new high and how long will it take for us to forget this time .


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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2014, 07:43:49 PM »
I was thinking about this today . A few years ago people where outraged at gas prices and demanding to know why it had gone up so much ... we got used to high price and not much is said anymore . I wonder now how long until $4.85 will be the new high and how long will it take for us to forget this time .



I believe people got sick of hearing about how much profit the oil companies were/are making on the backs of everyone having to fill up their tank.  I've heard things about it, why it's so high in this area of the country, but I've written that off to fluff. 

I remember when gas was over $4, and was so happy when it came down to $3-something.  But now, it's ridiculous.  We have to live frugally so these damn oil companies need to quit gouging us.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2014, 08:02:33 PM »
I never have a clue what gas costs because I haven't owned a car now for an entire quarter of a century.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2014, 08:25:43 PM »
I went grocery shopping today.  Oh, and got gas at $3.89/gallon.  It keeps going up and down in price and I'm frankly sick of it.


Wow,  that's kind of high !  I just bought gas today at $ 3.35 a gallon.  Supposed to drop in price for the summer:

http://www.tampagasprices.com/GasPriceSearch.aspx?typ=adv&fuel=A&srch=0&area=All%20Areas&station=All%20Stations&tme_limit=24
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2014, 08:28:29 PM »
2005 would be the year a friend of mine gossips seeing Gyllenhaal being obviously gay in Saint Tropez... for whatever such gossip is worth...
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2014, 08:32:37 PM »
Chinese jasmine topiaries dans le jardin, jeesh so chic...
Im dragging my heels planting the window boxes and at this point I won't find much besides geraniums....  I liked the perfumed wild types though, and they put them out about this time anyway...
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2014, 08:36:04 PM »
Who are your favourite blonde artists?  Male and female. Natural or bottled blondes. Dead or alive.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2014, 08:51:21 PM »
Natural blondes, I think: (sometimes quite dirty blonde...)
Burt Lancaster
James Dean
Ryan Gosling
Helen Mirren
Goldie Hawn (?)

Bottle blondes:
SO MANY:
Kurt Cobain (maybe a natural dirty blonde?)
Debbie Harry
Billy Idol
Deneuve
Monroe
Jean Harlow
Carole Lombard
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2014, 10:32:44 PM »
Who are your favourite blonde artists?  Male and female. Natural or bottled blondes. Dead or alive.

Alexander Skarsgard, proportioned muscle on the tall lanky frame.
Chris Evans as a blond, though pretty much any hair color works for him. :-)

Kristen Bell, for the strong type.
Dianna Agron, for the classic blond vulnerable b!tch character she plays well.


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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2014, 11:32:48 PM »
Debbie Harry
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2014, 12:21:53 AM »
Who are your favourite blonde artists?  Male and female. Natural or bottled blondes. Dead or alive.

Gwen Stefani
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2014, 06:09:35 AM »
Gavin likes his beautiful bottle blondes :)
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l8gntobYUi1qzlyyao1_500.jpg

Skarsgard - yes, good one.


Dianna Agron I haven't seen, will look out for her.

Bottle blonde bitches list must include:

Buddy Cole:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZX-sUGWt6o

and

Daffyd:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrlzaBNgz-M


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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2014, 07:50:04 AM »
I call dibs on Alex Pettyfer, and Channing Tatum (Just putting that out there) and I suppose MECCH can borrow Gosling once in awhile :)
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #19 on: June 04, 2014, 07:58:27 AM »
Tatum AND Pettyfer are brunettes but look fine in any color  ;D
Pettyfer is a hot trashy bottle blond.  Can he act yet?
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2014, 08:10:55 AM »
Nope, he cant act, and Pettyfer is a natural blonde I thought....or was it the other way around....I'll have to check either way i'll take him! They're both just so damn gorgeous, I would say Matt Bomer however I cant picture him blonde, but as a brunette, DAMN, he's so hot. *sigh* back to drooling at tumblr pics of them all.
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5/1-CD4 592 42% and VL 336
5/22-CD4 732 31% and VL 109 :( STILL NOT UD!
5/31 Switched to Stribild :( I'll miss you Complera!
6/19 CD4 508 35% and VL UD!!!!! Crying at work like a baby.

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2014, 08:55:43 AM »
Miss Debbie Harry , one off the great,s , could turn for Debbie.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2014, 03:19:31 PM »
My partner had lunch with a friend yesterday and this friend told my partner she and her husband suspect I have an alcohol problem. They are concerned because I tell them I don't drink alcohol. My partner told her that I've never drank alcohol and that I don't like the taste. She said that was also suspicious because there are alcoholic drinks that where you can't taste the alcohol, therefore I wasn't being honest about my reason for not drinking. She also asked my partner "does he treat you well?" She was completely serious about this.

Of course the two of them discussed my alcohol problem while polishing off martinis and two bottles of wine. Psychological projection?

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2014, 03:27:43 PM »
Cheeky and stirring up the Pot , me thinks^^^^, make sure the next time you are vomitting you get yourself over to there house.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #24 on: June 04, 2014, 04:02:52 PM »
Perhaps you should have lunch with her and let her know you are concerned about her husbands cheating on her problem ... they shouldn't have a problem with your meddling sans any facts just as they did LOL . 

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #25 on: June 04, 2014, 04:22:25 PM »
Perhaps you should have lunch with her and let her know you are concerned about her husbands cheating on her problem ... they shouldn't have a problem with your meddling sans any facts just as they did LOL .

LOL, that's great. 
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #26 on: June 04, 2014, 04:28:02 PM »
I've been working feverishly to finish my new place.  The master bedroom was finished yesterday.  Everything painted from the ceiling down.  Even painted the subfloor with a sealer.  The master bathroom has about one good day of work and it'll be done.

Which reminds of something that many of you can answer.  I've decided to buy new bedroom furniture.  My matress set is close to its 8 year mark so it needs replaced.  I've always preferred a queen size (insert jokes now).  I'm considering downsizing to a double.  I'm worried it'll be too small especially when I'm lucky enough to share it.  Are there any couples here who comfortably use a double?

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #27 on: June 04, 2014, 05:31:18 PM »
It depends on your and your potential lover's sleeping style.
I did a double with a bf and loved it for years but if you have the space and already have the queen bedclothes, just get a queen again.
Now I have a double and a twin and I more often sleep in the twin, don't even know why....
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #28 on: June 04, 2014, 05:41:59 PM »
 I vote a queen .

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2014, 06:12:10 PM »
all i know is no one sleeps with me long without getting a flailing limb across the face

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2014, 06:15:07 PM »
all i know is no one sleeps with me long without getting a flailing limb across the face

me too. I vote King. :)
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2014, 07:39:38 PM »
Miss P is having Pastis Henri Bardouin and watching the French Open, but also alternating with the Rugby Collegiate Championship in Chester, PA with Drexel v. Temple :P
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2014, 07:44:44 PM »
Miss P is having Pastis Henri Bardouin

Well you know what they say about cannibalism ... if your having a ball you're eating too fast .

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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2014, 08:19:14 PM »
pollen and dust are kicking my ass. feel like shit. eating spoonfuls of royal jelly to sooth my throat

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2014, 10:24:46 PM »
I'm worried it'll be too small especially when I'm lucky enough to share it.  Are there any couples here who comfortably use a double?

greg

Queen, at a minimum.  Spent a few years with Sid in a double.  Cuddling is fine and can be done in any size bed, but he generates so much fucking heat when he sleeps -- I need space between us.  Go with a California King!

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2014, 09:29:43 AM »

Which reminds of something that many of you can answer.  I've decided to buy new bedroom furniture.  My matress set is close to its 8 year mark so it needs replaced.  I've always preferred a queen size (insert jokes now).  I'm considering downsizing to a double.  I'm worried it'll be too small especially when I'm lucky enough to share it.  Are there any couples here who comfortably use a double?


Double is the same as what's called a "full size" mattress and it's what my parents have always used. Neither of them are overweight. They also have this size in the guest room so I sleep in it when I visit, and I actually owned one previous to my current queen size because I had an antique spindle bed and that was the size of it. But I will say for two men it's not suitable which I discovered with my last partner. It's totally sufficient for a single person though.
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« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2014, 09:51:25 AM »
I almost ordered a complete set until something my sister said to me kicked in.  She wondered why I need new furniture at this time as my current set is good enough for a little longer considering what else I still need to buy. 

I already have new appliances except for a stove.  I really didn't see the immediate need for one and said I'd just get one down the road.  She said it looks ridiculous not having one. :(  I figured I could just buy a microwave for what little cooking I do. 

I did a test last night that indicated I'll remain with a larger set.  I slept in mom's guest room part of the night.  It has a double and will not suit me long term.  I ended up returning to my queen. 

I also broke down and had cable installed.  They tried their damnest to convince me on expensive packages.  I chose the starter package that runs $19.99 a month.  All I have to do is figure out how to watch Bravo and I'll be good.

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2014, 10:27:10 AM »
...

I also broke down and had cable installed.  They tried their damnest to convince me on expensive packages.  I chose the starter package that runs $19.99 a month.  All I have to do is figure out how to watch Bravo and I'll be good.

Gotta catch up on those episodes of Millionaire Matchmaker, eh? ;)
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« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2014, 01:12:41 PM »
Gotta catch up on those episodes of Millionaire Matchmaker, eh? ;)

I pretty much enjoy anything Bravo as I don't have to actively watch and pay attention.  I can do other things and tune in occasionally.  I'm too hyper to actually sit glued to a tv for long periods of time.


On a side note, I rec'd a call from a friend a little while ago asking if I'd help him carry in his new stove.  The old one looks just fine and I asked why they needed a new one.  He said his wife complains that it doesn't bake cakes correctly.  I guess she's been bitching for 3 years about it.  I'll bet he didn't level it....lazy bastard.  Anyways, he gave it to me.  Let's see...the last time I baked a cake was like never. 

Anyhoo, you all have a great day.  Getting ready to take Joshie to the Airport.  He has to be back in LA tonight.  We didn't get to spend much quality time together. :(
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2014, 02:54:50 PM »
signing back up for netflix... orange is the new black, laura prepon in lesbian prison sex scenes, hog heaven

also realize the true issue with my diet, and vegetarian dilemma, i'm just a lazy ass that won't cook decent food for myself. too hooked on just opening a can of something and warming it

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« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2014, 05:44:01 PM »
Zach, do you live with anyone? Family?
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« Reply #41 on: June 05, 2014, 05:47:28 PM »
I don't have to actively watch and pay attention.  I can do other things and tune in occasionally.  I'm too hyper to actually sit glued to a tv for long periods of time.
ake Joshie to the Airport.  He has to be back in LA tonight.  We didn't get to spend much quality time together. :(
This is mostly how I "watch" tv.  I'll sit and closely watch very few shows... Good looking shows are worth watching. Certain shows are kind of complex or not too talky, so you have to watch them if you want to follow.
I will watch new shows a few episodes to get the gist then I don't have to really watch them anymore just hear them and glance once and awhile.
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« Reply #42 on: June 05, 2014, 05:51:35 PM »
I already have new appliances except for a stove.  I really didn't see the immediate need for one and said I'd just get one down the road.  She said it looks ridiculous not having one. :(  I figured I could just buy a microwave for what little cooking I do. 
Don't you need one for frying and boiling water, at least?
Get a stove - start baking.  Bake potatoes, chicken, meatloaf, brownies, etc.
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« Reply #43 on: June 05, 2014, 06:03:26 PM »
mecch, my father and i live together, he is newly retired. worst diet known to mankind. he wont change, i wont bother him. we share dinner few nights a weeks, i can hit him with fish and rice on my nights

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« Reply #44 on: June 05, 2014, 08:26:20 PM »
fish and rice is good.  you can have your veges on the side  ;D
learn to make vege chill he might like that, or you could add meat to his portion anyway
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« Reply #45 on: June 05, 2014, 08:36:38 PM »
Look in your frozen vegetable aisle.
I can make very quick meals based on frozen mixed vegetables.
They have all kinds now.  They have frozen ratatouille veges, chinese veges, minestrone veges, old fashioned winter mixed, and summer mixed, etc etc.

Here they have this great one that is very finely chopped veges including onions.  You can sautee them and add vegetable soup.

You can sauté the chinese veges and eat with rice and tofu.  Get some miso.  Saute veges and then add water and miso for very quick soup. 

Check the fresh chilled soups.  Here in switzerland they import the industrial, but fresh, soups from Spain - it comes in a quart container.  There are several varieties of gazpacho and its pretty damned good and no effort.  You can eat that with toasted bread and cheese, or a grilled cheese.

If you don't know, learn how to make hard boiled eggs. Hard boiled eggs are very nutritious and the new thinking is that this kind of egg is not a cholesterol risk.  You can put them in gazpacho.  Make sandwiches with different spreads.  Bread you like, some kind of savoury spread and sliced boiled eggs. Maybe real tomatoes in the summer. Or some tasty greens like cilantro or arugula.   Its pretty easy.  Also eggs are cheap and quality protein for the money.
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« Reply #46 on: June 05, 2014, 10:27:44 PM »
man thats a lot of chopping veggies  :o

did i tell you about nearly chopping my thumb off last month, right after i get out the hospital, thought i was done for

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« Reply #47 on: June 05, 2014, 10:49:45 PM »
I had a ham sandwich tonight and some strawberries and kiwi for dessert.  Brian had firefighter duties.

Then, I watched the Space Station fly over.  It was especially bright tonight.  I use an app called ISS Detector.  The Space Station now has LIVE feeds of new HD cameras on USSTREAM.  So, I was able to see what they were seeing as I was watching them.  The cameras don't pick up city lights well, but there was still enough sun out.  It flew by about 50 minutes ago and it is now almost over Jan in New Zealand.  Swinging under Australia now.  It is amazing when we see it here in Louisville, it can be well over Canada or over the Atlantic, by the time it goes out of view. 

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« Reply #48 on: June 06, 2014, 03:15:43 AM »
So many threads become about food.   :o  I had mac and cheese twice yesterday and a protein bar.  total cost for the day: $2.79

Have to be at work at 4:00 am this morning.  Love these shifts where I can have an afterwork cocktail by noon and not feel like a total lush. 

@Zach, when I was forced to move back home, it was difficult trying to prepare adequate meals that both mother and I could eat.  For the most part, we ate separately.  She slowing came around to eating some of what I'd fix.  What's the old saying?  Just because your dad jumps off a cliff, do you have to follow?
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« Reply #49 on: June 06, 2014, 03:46:42 AM »
Then, I watched the Space Station fly over.  It was especially bright tonight.  I use an app called ISS Detector.  The Space Station now has LIVE feeds of new HD cameras on USSTREAM.  So, I was able to see what they were seeing as I was watching them.  The cameras don't pick up city lights well, but there was still enough sun out.  It flew by about 50 minutes ago and it is now almost over Jan in New Zealand.  Swinging under Australia now.  It is amazing when we see it here in Louisville, it can be well over Canada or over the Atlantic, by the time it goes out of view.

you geek.  ;) Someone once described an app to me, it tells you what sky you point the phone at; identifies stars, planets, all the m objects. That would cool. I used to go to amateur astronomy star parties as a kid, I lived near a state park where a local university had a telescope. Built a cardboard tube schmidt cassegrain. Good times. Now I do good to somewhat aware of the moon.


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« Reply #50 on: June 06, 2014, 04:47:58 AM »
man thats a lot of chopping veggies  :o

did i tell you about nearly chopping my thumb off last month, right after i get out the hospital, thought i was done for

Nope - no washing, pealing, chopping - mixed frozen veges....  "Working mothers' friends"  because how fast and easy it is. 
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« Reply #51 on: June 06, 2014, 05:00:35 AM »
lol, ok, yeah i'm not safe in the kitchen. i'll do some of that for sure

on that note, just because i'm on a dog kick

at first i was revolted, kill it with fire, but quickly came around

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« Reply #52 on: June 06, 2014, 07:58:56 AM »
it tells you what sky you point the phone at;

Ummm.....  how many skies do you have down there that you need an app to help you find one??   ;)

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« Reply #53 on: June 06, 2014, 10:05:20 AM »
Ummm.....  how many skies do you have down there that you need an app to help you find one??   ;)

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« Reply #54 on: June 06, 2014, 01:15:36 PM »
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Here's something to talk about!

So, it appears that there is a NAKED BIKE RIDE in Portland!  This is somewhat of a novelty to me and - no - I will not be participating.  I may have done many things in the Midwest without being properly attired, but a naked bike ride in the PNW is not going to be one of them. You just can't do ANYTHING now-a-days without someone and a camera phone!! There is a reason that the folks in WI did not do this.....most of it comes from a diet high in Krispy Kreme and Kringles. 

The police are threatening to arrest whomever parades around on their bike without clothes. That should be worth the price of admission alone!  I think that this whole this is to protest something. 
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« Reply #55 on: June 06, 2014, 04:47:45 PM »
you geek.  ;) Someone once described an app to me, it tells you what sky you point the phone at; identifies stars, planets, all the m objects. That would cool. I used to go to amateur astronomy star parties as a kid, I lived near a state park where a local university had a telescope. Built a cardboard tube schmidt cassegrain. Good times. Now I do good to somewhat aware of the moon.

There's also an app called, "What's Down Under?"  It tells you what's on the opposite side of the earth from you.  Interesting; but something you'd probably just use once.  If it is accurate, looks like I would come up in the Indian Ocean, if I dug my way through.  Actually, almost exactly where the search area is for the Malaysian plane. 

Looking through a telescope on a pier at the beach is probably one of my favorite memories.  We could see Saturn and the rings, clear as day.  We could see the storm on Jupiter.  The images were in black and white, which I don't fully understand.  Guess color doesn't travel well?  Anyway, we went on the beach, where there was a swinging bench.  We looked up and saw a shooting star across the ocean.  Then, there were guys having sex under the pier.  I remember looking over and seeing legs up in the air and about 5 guys lined up.  What a great night.  That is true.  Tybee Island off Savannah. 

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« Reply #56 on: June 06, 2014, 09:46:11 PM »
i must not have been paying attention. are you in georgia ted? i love tybee, used to spend a fews days every year a year on cumberland. watched turtles swim in to lay eggs, then months later, little babies crawl out of the sand and swim away

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« Reply #57 on: June 06, 2014, 11:50:09 PM »
http://pdxwnbr.org/

Here's something to talk about!

So, it appears that there is a NAKED BIKE RIDE in Portland!

Call me a prude but there's no way I'm riding a bike without appropriate footwear.

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« Reply #58 on: June 07, 2014, 12:19:03 AM »
If you Google PORTLAND NAKED BIKE RIDE you can a ton of images and they (most) have sensible footwear. Still looks a bit painful on those seats!

.......and there is one of my employees from last years ride - well HELLO Mr. man!! And, this will be awkward come Monday!!
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« Reply #59 on: June 07, 2014, 12:23:49 AM »
Gave my notice at work yesterday.  Hopefully I can now remain in the ranks of the unemployed for the duration my existence.

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« Reply #60 on: June 07, 2014, 12:31:20 AM »
i must not have been paying attention. are you in georgia ted? i love tybee, used to spend a fews days every year a year on cumberland. watched turtles swim in to lay eggs, then months later, little babies crawl out of the sand and swim away

No, in Louisville.  Went there when visiting my brother in Atlanta.  Loved the area.  The drive from Atlanta to there was very boring, though. 

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« Reply #61 on: June 07, 2014, 04:07:42 AM »
Gave my notice at work yesterday.  Hopefully I can now remain in the ranks of the unemployed for the duration my existence.

I'm currently at work playing on the computer...sure hope they don't have a way of tracking me else I might be joining you.  :)
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« Reply #62 on: June 07, 2014, 12:46:58 PM »
Exciting day in East Haddam yesterday.

I was sitting on the sofa when I heard this horrible crash. A dump truck came careening around the corner and down the hill and hit a telephone pole head on. Pieces of the debris flew into our front yard and the ceramic insulator thingy popped out of our service connection on our house.

Luckily nobody was hurt and our service wasn't damaged. If he didn't make that turn I might not be here.

He was driving too fast and the truck was overloaded. Funny thing was that he kept on driving about two blocks to the bridge construction site dragging a stop sign along the way.

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« Reply #63 on: June 08, 2014, 05:36:20 PM »
I planted my window boxes today. A huge project, its done and my back hurts. 

Last week I spent a few days hunting the various flowers. I looked very hard before finding fresh, in shape petunias, and the perfumed variety.  The dark blue/purple have the headiest perfume, and sometimes the fuchsia and sometimes the white.

Petunias smell wonderful coming though the windows on summer nights.
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« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2014, 05:39:44 PM »
I planted my window boxes today. A huge project, its done and my back hurts. 

Last week I spent a few days hunting the various flowers. I looked very hard before finding fresh, in shape petunias, and the perfumed variety.  The dark blue/purple have the headiest perfume, and sometimes the fuchsia and sometimes the white.

Petunias smell wonderful coming though the windows on summer nights.

I have petunias in my baskets on the front of my house and they do smell so very good .

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« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2014, 05:44:04 PM »
When I had a garden in the small courtyard behind my city apartment, the snails and slugs would rip through the marigolds and petunias in a single night.  So its best to have them up here, far above those beasts.
I did the potting out back and had to carry all these clay and Eternit planters up directly.  I didn't dare leave them one night at ground level...
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« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2014, 05:50:19 PM »
Tomorrow is Whit Monday - a public holiday, but I am hard pressed to understand what today, Pentecost, means...   Jesus as the Holy Spirit baptised the 12 Apostles and Mary?? 
Actually, its a holiday in many faiths.... 
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« Reply #67 on: June 09, 2014, 11:21:20 AM »
I had a bit of emotional ride the last couple of days.  I decided to finally bring all my belongings out of storage.  I hadn't realized how long everything was in storage until I saw the dates on the newspapers that everything was wrapped in.  2 nights ago, I only went through a few things as everything held a memory.

I decided to complete the task last night with help from my trusty white medicine.  Box after box held such dear memories.  I went through every emotion well into the early hours. 

I'll be completely in my new home by the weekend.  I should have the master suite completely done this evening. 
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« Reply #68 on: June 09, 2014, 03:43:20 PM »
Reminiscing is nice sometimes isn't it, Greg?  I've found an old VHS tape of me being interviewed by local TV on World Aids Day back in like '94.  Unfortunately I do not have a VHS player any longer. 

I hope we get to see pics of your master bedroom!  I know you'll be happy when you're moved in.
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« Reply #69 on: June 09, 2014, 03:54:22 PM »
Going to a cousin's wedding this upcoming weekend.  I really enjoyed attending weddings when I was in my 20s but now that I am in my 50s they are just not as fun.  It will be nice to get away for a few days but c'mon.... outside weddings in June just don't do it for me.  I get the 'vapors' in all this heat and humidity. 


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« Reply #70 on: June 09, 2014, 05:10:44 PM »
Going to a cousin's wedding this upcoming weekend.  I really enjoyed attending weddings when I was in my 20s but now that I am in my 50s they are just not as fun.  It will be nice to get away for a few days but c'mon.... outside weddings in June just don't do it for me.  I get the 'vapors' in all this heat and humidity.

You have my condolences.
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« Reply #71 on: June 09, 2014, 05:34:15 PM »
Going to a cousin's wedding this upcoming weekend.  I really enjoyed attending weddings when I was in my 20s but now that I am in my 50s they are just not as fun.  It will be nice to get away for a few days but c'mon.... outside weddings in June just don't do it for me.  I get the 'vapors' in all this heat and humidity. 



What part of the country is the wedding in? 
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« Reply #72 on: June 09, 2014, 05:39:54 PM »
What part of the country is the wedding in?

This will be in the mountains of NC. 

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« Reply #73 on: June 09, 2014, 05:57:50 PM »
This will be in the mountains of NC. 

It sounds very picturesque.  But I know that area of the country is pretty steamy in June.  I will tell you a secret, and I've found this out going through menopause:  If you go to the section of the store that has feminine care products, there are "cooling wipes" for those of us that have hot flashes.  They work very well, and cool immediately.  Maybe you could pick some up for those "vapor" moments.
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« Reply #74 on: June 09, 2014, 07:59:24 PM »
My parent's wedding was during August in the South, with the reception at my grandmother's. It was 101F that day, obviously without air conditioning. Stop whining.
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« Reply #75 on: June 09, 2014, 08:13:17 PM »
My parent's wedding was during August in the South, with the reception at my grandmother's. It was 101F that day, obviously without air conditioning. Stop whining.

I bet y'all had box fans in all the trailer windows though .   

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« Reply #76 on: June 09, 2014, 11:32:26 PM »
OK. Ill play.

I had a dent pulled out of my fender today by a random latino guy in a pickup at a Walmart today for $80.

I parked and he walked up to my window and started asking me if I wanted "that dent fixed"...It was 10:19, and I told him to get out of my way that I had to get into the Walmart McDonalds before the breakfast menu closed at 10:30, but to wait right there and I would be back. Sure nuff, I came back out with my biscuit and orange juice and he was waiting with a bucket of tools. I figured this would totally go south in some way but what the hell...YES LETS DO IT. He pulled out some stuff and rubbed it on my fender and put a big suction cup on it and pull the dent right out. Im still waiting for it to pop back in or something.

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« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2014, 03:40:06 AM »
I started work at 4.30am yesterday and finished at 12.15am this morning.
Best of all there was no interuption from "Abso".
I started to text him and realised it was 10.55pm.
I assume he's ok.

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« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2014, 05:16:21 AM »
Just spend a lazy morning watching a movie I downloaded the other day.

It's about  "don't ask don't tell"

Burning Blue (2013)

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« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2014, 05:32:38 AM »
My parent's wedding was during August in the South, with the reception at my grandmother's. It was 101F that day, obviously without air conditioning. Stop whining.

Oh Child... I could have done it when I was younger.  You just wait till you get old like me!  I have to actually wear long pants for this.... that in and of itself is torture for me during the months of June, July, and August.

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« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2014, 05:34:00 AM »
He pulled out some stuff and rubbed it on my fender and put a big suction cup on it


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« Reply #81 on: June 10, 2014, 08:24:48 AM »
So when y'all starting yer reparative therapy to get ex-gay, and is it covered by that there Obamer Care?
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« Reply #82 on: June 10, 2014, 08:42:04 AM »
So when y'all starting yer reparative therapy to get ex-gay, and is it covered by that there Obamer Care?

The course is offered online for a 'handsome' fee.  Then to get certified you have to spend a little bit more, AND have a government issued photo ID.

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« Reply #83 on: June 10, 2014, 09:29:04 AM »
My parent's wedding was during August in the South, with the reception at my grandmother's. It was 101F that day, obviously without air conditioning. Stop whining.

And how many miles did you walk to school when you were a child?
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« Reply #84 on: June 10, 2014, 09:38:20 AM »
And how many miles did you walk to school when you were a child?

1.5 blocks for elementary school, or 0.2 miles. I was also a crossing guard and only the popular kids were chosen for that.

High school was about 4 blocks away.

I could also walk downtown in 15 minutes.
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« Reply #85 on: June 10, 2014, 09:53:35 AM »
1.5 blocks for elementary school, or 0.2 miles. I was also a crossing guard and only the popular kids were chosen for that.

High school was about 4 blocks away.

I could also walk downtown in 15 minutes.

Aw, I was sure you were going to saw that it was 5 or 10 miles.  Uphill.  Both ways.

I rode the bus, 'cause I lived on the north side of town, and the schools were all on the other side of a major highway. These days, I don't think parents have their kids ride the bus very much, judging from the loooooong lines of cars I see in front of schools each morning.
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« Reply #86 on: June 10, 2014, 10:20:19 AM »
When I turned 14 I rode my motorcycle to school so I was cooler than the lot of yall .

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« Reply #87 on: June 10, 2014, 10:55:43 AM »
. I was also a crossing guard and only the popular kids were chosen for that.



Please Mary, In 5th grade I was a Sergeant in the crossing guard corps. I had the silver badge with the red center, and the flourescent orange sash. I got to tell all the 4th grade peon crossing guards what to do. I was riding high until I whacked a car with my stop sign pole (he ran through the crosswalk and deserved it). I was unceremoniously stripped of my badge and sash and sent to art class  :-[
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« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2014, 11:08:22 AM »
I took a bus the 8 miles to town. It took over an hour to arrive due to all of the stops. In my senior year I had my own 8 year old VW beetle as my parents flew the coop to Connecticut.
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« Reply #89 on: June 10, 2014, 11:29:11 AM »
Actually in high school I was chauffeured each day by my mother, since she was also a teacher there.
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« Reply #90 on: June 10, 2014, 12:05:03 PM »
Suck it bitches. I walked to high school with Minnie Johnson. A black girl. I also was in the first integrated cheerleading group in our high school's history.

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« Reply #91 on: June 10, 2014, 12:12:00 PM »
Suck it bitches. I walked to high school with Minnie Johnson. A black girl. I also was in the first integrated cheerleading group in our high school's history.

That is super kinda awesome .

One of the only fights I got into in little school was with crossing guard on a bus field trip . There was high pitched screams and hair pulling and scratchin and carry on ... it was the first time ( but not the last ) that an angry queen bum rushed me screaming BITCH IM GONNA KILL YOU .

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« Reply #92 on: June 10, 2014, 04:51:28 PM »
Please Mary, In 5th grade I was a Sergeant in the crossing guard corps. I had the silver badge with the red center, and the flourescent orange sash. I got to tell all the 4th grade peon crossing guards what to do. I was riding high until I whacked a car with my stop sign pole (he ran through the crosswalk and deserved it). I was unceremoniously stripped of my badge and sash and sent to art class  :-[

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« Reply #93 on: June 11, 2014, 07:37:14 AM »
I said yes to a couple pilot projects for a dean (who is not my dean) this year - and put in a fair amount of unpaid work, but also got paid for some of the extra work.  New projects are often like this - nobody really knows what to do or how long it will take.  So most staff say no, but I've learned to say yes and hope for rewards down the line.  Its a risk.

So I just found out I will get some classes in his division this year.  Never worked there and always wanted to.  This reward was not promised to me, not even mentioned, so its a wonderful surprise. 

Don't you just love it when you experience fair play at work?!!   ;D
 
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« Reply #94 on: June 11, 2014, 09:32:40 AM »
Mecch that is wonderful news . You have mentioned to me before about the work situation and how it is sometimes frustrating so I know how much this means to you and its a very big deal . You now have something your heart desires and petunias on the terrace, sounds like a damn good week to me . Congratulations .   

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I said yes to a couple pilot projects for a dean (who is not my dean) this year - and put in a fair amount of unpaid work, but also got paid for some of the extra work.  New projects are often like this - nobody really knows what to do or how long it will take.  So most staff say no, but I've learned to say yes and hope for rewards down the line.  Its a risk.

So I just found out I will get some classes in his division this year.  Never worked there and always wanted to.  This reward was not promised to me, not even mentioned, so its a wonderful surprise. 

Don't you just love it when you experience fair play at work?!!   ;D

Mecch,

What wonderful news.  I think that more than fair play is at work here.  You are being acknowledged for making a meaningful contribution to your employer, through your own efforts and abilities.  It sounds more like a promotion might be in the business world.  You have gained deserved recognition of your talents and now have more responsibility and opportunity in another area that is of great interest to you.

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« Reply #96 on: June 11, 2014, 08:22:14 PM »
So when y'all starting yer reparative therapy to get ex-gay, and is it covered by that there Obamer Care?

Yes, depending on the state, Obama Care is very progressive that way and totally covers it. Here in PA we sort and recycle our gays instead of throw them away.  I have a collection point in front of my house for the brunette ones.

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« Reply #97 on: June 11, 2014, 08:25:00 PM »
Actually in high school I was chauffeured each day by my mother, since she was also a teacher there.

When I went to high school down south the high school juniors and seniors drove the schools buses for the district.  I still remember the day the girl that drove our route drove into a ditch and then knocked the stop sign over when she tried to back up.

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« Reply #98 on: June 12, 2014, 02:31:44 AM »
Aw shucks lets not exaggerate  ;D but thanks!
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« Reply #99 on: June 12, 2014, 05:35:19 AM »
Congrats, Mecch.

The first two years of high school were at Andrews Academy, the university's high school.  It was in another town, and my mother drove myself, and other kids, even during the horrid winter months.  The school would hardly ever close because most people lived in the university's housing, so they were super close. 

Then, I got kicked out of public high school when I was in 11th grade.  Of course I finished, but through adult ed. 
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« Reply #100 on: June 12, 2014, 06:34:10 AM »
What is the subject exactly? High School? Transport to?
My school district was created in the 60s for mostly new housing developments and to remove it from the "decaying" city system. 
My district was noted for a pretty strict income segregation. There was an elementary school for the very rich, another for the upper middle class, and another for the working class / lower middle class.  We all met in one Jr. High and luckily everyone mixed and mingled well enough for the next 6 years.  The class differences were an education rather than much of a hardship.

What I can't imagine, is being a kid or parent in the USA these days, with the non-stop shootings...  How are regular folks coping with this? I don't understand why all American parents aren't pressing their elected representatives for a more secure society... 

Do people still live in denial and think it will never happen in their own school district?
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« Reply #101 on: June 12, 2014, 06:47:48 AM »
Don't know if this merits a thread.  But it seems with the accelerating acceptance of same sex marriage, the hold-outs anti-gay bigots are getting more virulent, as well.

I read about some pretty obscene legislation in Kansas, completely against civil rights and amounting to a sort of new Jim Crow.

http://absolute-news.com/2014/06/kansas-anti-gay-bill-openly-legalizes-discrimination/


And then there is the 20hC intellect of Rick Perry:

Perry's comments to the Commonwealth Club of California came after Texas' Republican Convention on Saturday sanctioned platform language allowing Texans to seek voluntary counseling to "cure" being gay.

The San Francisco Chronicle http://bit.ly/1oWq0qR reports that in response to a question about it, Perry said he did not know whether the therapy worked.

Perry, a former and potential future GOP presidential candidate, was then asked whether he believed homosexuality was a disorder.

The paper says that the governor responded that "whether or not you feel compelled to follow a particular lifestyle or not, you have the ability to decide not to do that."

He said: "I may have the genetic coding that I'm inclined to be an alcoholic, but I have the desire not to do that, and I look at the homosexual issue the same way."

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The Texas Republican platform stand on the issue is in contrast to California and New Jersey, which have previously banned licensed professionals from providing such therapy to minors.


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I wish I could be outraged. Rather I feel its all very pathetic - this layer of people, my age no less, who remain so ignorant and self-entitled to discriminate and remain ignorant.  God. Anti-science. Pro-gun. Anti-LGBTQ. Anti-difference. Its so pathetically predictable and old school.

Hasn't science already pronounced how harmful and ineffective such therapy is?  So who is he kidding.  Is it WILLFUL ignorance, or cynical lying.  This is something I wish I knew.  Are people like this (bigots) aware they are pandering and lying for political purpose?  Or is there a faulty intellect, so that verified, trustworthy info GOES IN, but gets lost.... ?
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« Reply #102 on: June 12, 2014, 07:32:26 AM »
How about this Einstein:

Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death
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“I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” Esk wrote in comments uncovered by Oklahoma journalist Rob Morris. “That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”

When pressed, Esk added: "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it."

"That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins."
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« Reply #103 on: June 13, 2014, 06:04:44 AM »
How about this Einstein:

Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/11/scott-esk-stoning-gays_n_5486678.html

“I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” Esk wrote in comments uncovered by Oklahoma journalist Rob Morris. “That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”

When pressed, Esk added: "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it."

"That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," ESL said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins."


However no huge moral misgivings about State sanctioned mob slaughter it would seem.


How much Power does this arse wipe have. ?

Think I can confidently state that any Long term Political carrear in UK main stream Politics would be OVER if one off the candidates said that.

There would also be a case to answer in the courts , as its inciting violence

Where we do get fuzzy  , realpolitik , cowards is when   Imams, say this sort off thing or Certain groups in universities though this is being challenged at last in Places off Education by Woman's Groups , LGBT Groups.

The left and the soft left attack of wobbly wobbly liberalism has at last began to crack lead by the "Soft left"
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« Reply #104 on: June 13, 2014, 07:56:47 AM »
So fkn sick of them. Are you guys aware of the Tea Party?

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« Reply #105 on: June 13, 2014, 08:05:41 AM »
So fkn sick of them. Are you guys aware of the Tea Party?

Yes ... its a crying shame that those tea baggers have subverted and taken a wholesome thing like dangling your balls in someones face and made it tawdry and political .   

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« Reply #106 on: June 13, 2014, 08:33:31 AM »
How much Power does this arse wipe have. ?

Just a nut job candidate at the moment.  But occasionally they get elected!

But I was shocked about Birmingham schools.  What I can't understand is how the principals and administration could take it so far.  Wouldn't the teachers and parents have raise hell and red flags from the get go - to the city education officials, to the media?
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« Reply #107 on: June 13, 2014, 03:59:58 PM »
So fkn sick of them. Are you guys aware of the Tea Party?

Anybody interested a bit in Politics in the UK will be aware off them . The Guardian>The Telegraph>The Times> The Independent > Sunday only The Observer > The Scotsman >The Irish Times , are all proper news papers from soft left to right wing and have internet presence, they have all carried The Rise OFF The Tea Baggers type pieces more than once .

And off course The BBC /Channel 4 / Sky news/ BBC World Service regularly report there antics and analyze them. BBC World news I caught some excellent interviews with TB.S who where not foaming at the mouth clearly concerned about the society but fanatically naive to not only US politics but the rest off the world.

The fact that there rise coincides with USA first Black President is also noted/discussed.

And off course TV/Radio Satire well they are just a gift to the performers. A comic just has to say Sarah Palin and the audience laugh like Pavlov's dogs.

If I was to Sum up the view at the moment its one off thinking that the GOP has by uncritically welcoming the stirrings off its bonkers right wing are now reaping what happens when you sup with the Devil . Unless a figure off Obama.,s gravitas comes along in the GOP and stands up to the TB,s the Elephants are seen to be very old and needing appropriate care .
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« Reply #108 on: June 13, 2014, 04:08:57 PM »
Just a nut job candidate at the moment.  But occasionally they get elected!

But I was shocked about Birmingham schools.  What I can't understand is how the principals and administration could take it so far.  Wouldn't the teachers and parents have raise hell and red flags from the get go - to the city education officials, to the media?

Unless a % off those parents teachers city officials agree in the first place?

Plus do not under estimate how dangerous and poisonous these things are plus we have a Government who have invested a lot in School,s autonomy , and wants Gov to be out off Education.

The fact it proceeds to get Gov out off STATE education by changing things so Birmingham can happen has been noted.

There is Shock here too but it did surface ,which will help more to surface.
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« Reply #109 on: June 13, 2014, 06:58:40 PM »
If there were calls to Islamic prayer over the PA, and paid trips to Saudi Arabia, at a public school in many countries, the US would be happy to arrange drone strikes...  (if it were in the USA I think people would have heart attacks, and local militias would come shoot the school principal.)
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« Reply #112 on: June 15, 2014, 06:54:20 PM »
damn mecch, the swiss team, did you see that final goal?!

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« Reply #113 on: June 15, 2014, 07:07:05 PM »
Just a nut job candidate at the moment.  But occasionally they get elected!

But I was shocked about Birmingham schools.  What I can't understand is how the principals and administration could take it so far.  Wouldn't the teachers and parents have raise hell and red flags from the get go - to the city education officials, to the media?

Because the thing they latch into is 'voluntary' prayer in public schools. What they refuse to accept is that nothing is voluntary. To opt-out is to be ostracized and ridiculed.

In my high school in Texas, there was a prayer installed in metal individual letters on the wall of the auditorium. A kids atheist parents spent years in the courts to have it removed. The finally won. Fortunately, the kids had already graduated. The faculty and students alike thought it was a travesty ... Even though in confidence, many saw the rationale and supported the decision.....in private. To voice this support would have meant slashed tires! Not much has changed except there really aren't that many Farrah Fawcett hair-dos, anymore.
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« Reply #114 on: June 15, 2014, 08:14:59 PM »
damn mecch, the swiss team, did you see that final goal?!
Didn't see it live but heard it on the streets.  ;D
But the commotion for the Swiss is never as crazy as when a latin team wins like Spain, Portugal, or Italy then the streets here in Switzerland will be gridlocked and best to have ear plugs.
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« Reply #115 on: June 17, 2014, 06:45:53 PM »
Lost a wallet I quite liked with Drivers L, Swiss ID, 2 different and important transport cards.  Lost it on Saturday somewhere between paying at the supermarket at closing time, and home which is maybe 500 meters! I was sure it was at the supermarket cashier but nope, checked today...

I HATE IT. I hate losing things, like that.

Oh well...  Least it was no money, bank cards, credit cards, etc. 

I hate losing necessary things in life.  I hate small thefts, too. When I had a garden in the city, sometimes people would steal pots of flowers!  Or someone steels from the building laundry room.  Stuff like that. Its unnerving.  Am I the only one who can't stand this? Maybe its a problem..  I'll get over it but I hate it.  >:( :o


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« Reply #116 on: June 18, 2014, 02:56:25 PM »
Lost a wallet I quite liked with Drivers L, Swiss ID, 2 different and important transport cards.  Lost it on Saturday somewhere between paying at the supermarket at closing time, and home which is maybe 500 meters! I was sure it was at the supermarket cashier but nope, checked today...

I HATE IT. I hate losing things, like that.

Oh well...  Least it was no money, bank cards, credit cards, etc. 

I hate losing necessary things in life.  I hate small thefts, too. When I had a garden in the city, sometimes people would steal pots of flowers!  Or someone steels from the building laundry room.  Stuff like that. Its unnerving.  Am I the only one who can't stand this? Maybe its a problem..  I'll get over it but I hate it.  >:( :o

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« Reply #117 on: June 21, 2014, 07:39:56 PM »
Lost a wallet I quite liked with Drivers L, Swiss ID, 2 different and important transport cards.  Lost it on Saturday somewhere between paying at the supermarket at closing time, and home which is maybe 500 meters! I was sure it was at the supermarket cashier but nope, checked today...

I HATE IT. I hate losing things, like that.

Oh well...  Least it was no money, bank cards, credit cards, etc. 

I hate losing necessary things in life.  I hate small thefts, too. When I had a garden in the city, sometimes people would steal pots of flowers!  Or someone steels from the building laundry room.  Stuff like that. Its unnerving.  Am I the only one who can't stand this? Maybe its a problem..  I'll get over it but I hate it.  >:( :o

I've gotten better at holding on to my wallet. It was not unusual to lose it once a year, or just lose my DL by itself. I've lost my DL twice in the airport, have actually had Atlanta Airport Police mail it back to me once. When I was a kid I would always lose my key to the house at school, momma got smart and put on a chain and hung it around my neck. But of course I was still able to lose it somehow. But momma tried.

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« Reply #118 on: June 21, 2014, 07:49:40 PM »
I've gotten better at holding on to my wallet. It was not unusual to lose it once a year, or just lose my DL by itself. I've lost my DL twice in the airport, have actually had Atlanta Airport Police mail it back to me once. When I was a kid I would always lose my key to the house at school, momma got smart and put on a chain and hung it around my neck. But of course I was still able to lose it somehow. But momma tried.



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« Reply #119 on: June 21, 2014, 07:53:01 PM »
Try spending $310 on your wallet and maybe you'll not lose it.

Right, but why would one spend $310 on something that is stuck in their pocket 99.5% of the time? I prefer the $9.89 wallet from Walmert, and if I wanna feel fancy I can get the top shelf faux lizard wallet for $12.50
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« Reply #120 on: June 21, 2014, 10:52:16 PM »
I've gotten better at holding on to my wallet.

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« Reply #121 on: June 22, 2014, 04:23:41 AM »
If my wallet said Tom Ford on it, the simpleton who found it would think it belongs to a Mr. Tom Ford.   ;D
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« Reply #122 on: June 22, 2014, 05:20:26 AM »
Not had much access lately to the net.  Much less the time.  :)  I'm almost completely in my new place and am worn beyond belief.  I gave myself a timeline and schedule that must be strictly adhered to.  Thanks to my cognitive issues, every box I brought out of storage was like new shopping.  Some things held great memories and others, I simply didn't remember them. 

With mother's passing, I've been handling all the financials, contacting everyone to close accounts and such.  The only one I had a major issue with was Time Warner.  I wanted to transfer that account into my name and simply move the service to the new place.  She fumbled like hell and kept putting me on hold.  I explained several times that the account holder has passed and I simply wanted to keep the same landline number and account but put it into my name and financial responsibility.

After about 40 minutes, I really started getting upset.  She then came back onto the line and said I'd need authorization from the account holder.  I finally said ok and asked to just start new service.  I won't keep the same phone number but I finally got all my packages to install new service.  I did ask that rep to note mom's account that she had passed and that they were waiting on account holder authorization to change or cancel it.  She actually noted it and I bet someone down the road will get a huge WTF thought.

I finally got everything working yesterday but was tired as hell after working all night and knowing I had to work again today @ 2:00 am. 

So now, I'm ready to start irritating the shit out of people again....aah, so missed it.  :)

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« Reply #123 on: June 22, 2014, 02:24:37 PM »
i was the executor of for both my grandparents, feel for you man, its a lot of stress and work, mixed in with a lot of great memories and pain

hang in there, the rest will be well earned

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« Reply #124 on: June 22, 2014, 06:43:39 PM »
That's a lot Greg.  I'm moving also, but don't have all the work you had to pour into your place; at least not yet. 

You need to take a nap!  You're making me tired.  Please take care of yourself.

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« Reply #125 on: June 23, 2014, 04:39:44 AM »
Betty, instead of resting, I went to a Nascar party.  :)  When I looked around and saw all the mini projects that needed done, I decided that I'll tackle them slowly over the rest of my life.  I was being a tad OCD about wanting everything 100% complete but have stopped fretting about it all.

The 3rd bedroom has had nothing done to it other than being bleached down.  I can't imagine ever needing to really use that room as 1 guest room is enough. 

On a super awesome positive note; I'm absolutely loving being in charge of my own home again.  Living with mother for the past several years wasn't horrible, but it also wasn't the same as having your own home.  She preferred a modern clutter look with something hanging from every inch of wall space where as I prefer a simple minimalist approach.

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« Reply #126 on: June 24, 2014, 12:29:03 AM »
The Prop 8 documentary, "The Case Against 8," premiered on HBO tonight. 

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #127 on: June 24, 2014, 02:40:03 AM »
The Prop 8 documentary, "The Case Against 8," premiered on HBO tonight.

Just finished it.  Two thumbs up.  Gives ya behind the scenes look at what was going on during trial prep, depositions, and you get to know the plaintiffs better.  Ted Olson remains an interesting person, to me.  It is hard to get my mind around this Ted Olson and Bush v Gore Ted Olson.

Anyway, that's what I'm talking about tonight.

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #128 on: June 24, 2014, 08:25:22 AM »
Except it was the United States v. Windsor case that was (and will continue to be) actually more important in the long-run, and is barely mentioned in this documentary which is basically a propaganda piece/PR stunt for deep-pocketed lawyers Boies and Olsen (who earned $6.4 million for this case). It does nothing to set the context of 20 years of litigation planning by gay advocacy groups, or if so they are presented as obstacles -- mostly by omission. The Windsor case is the case being cited by federal judges to strike down existing state laws/amendments as regards gay marriage bans being unconstitutional. This was also done in both the new Becker book and Boies/Olson book about Prop 8.

The Windsor case was the result of a decade long strategy by two gay litigators, but I doubt that they had the money and Hollywood connections (Rob Reiner was instrumental to getting Boies/Olsen on board) to have an HBO crew follow them around and distort history. The Prop 8 case was important, but only for one state, and only because of a technicality that the appeal itself was invalid.

So here's hoping that one day the Windsor case will get the Hollywood treatment it deserves, and in a fuller context of decades of gay activism -- not the all-white elite upper class treatment that the HBO doc shows.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #129 on: June 24, 2014, 08:40:15 AM »
^ what she said

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« Reply #130 on: June 24, 2014, 05:59:00 PM »
Here's a longer piece from today's Washington Post that I just stumbled on saying similar things but in greater detail and definitely worth a read -- I end up walking away annoyed:

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #131 on: June 25, 2014, 10:49:52 AM »
I have just discovered that Neiman Markus ship to the UK free if you spend a min $100 , though not the Mr Ford wallet made in Italy by minimum wage slaves , Gosh its sooo hard designing a wallet , as I am in a fowl mood I will admit to accidentally standing on Mr Fords, right foot .

He is practically a legal midget , well that was my excuse.
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« Reply #132 on: June 25, 2014, 11:06:11 AM »

He is practically a legal midget , well that was my excuse.

Then you are in the clear ... its the illegal ones that's ruining it for everyone you know  .

I think the term midget is not very PC but but as long as you get of his foot I bet he wont complain .

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« Reply #133 on: June 25, 2014, 11:12:13 AM »
I have just discovered that Neiman Markus ship to the UK free if you spend a min $100 , though not the Mr Ford wallet made in Italy by minimum wage slaves , Gosh its sooo hard designing a wallet , as I am in a fowl mood I will admit to accidentally standing on Mr Fords, right foot .

He is practically a legal midget , well that was my excuse.

Be sure and add on his new Neroli Portofino Limited Eau de Parfum in either $210 or $520 sizes, plus the same fragrance in a $50 deodorant stick.

I'm sure this would be divine while sipping on a Negroni.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #134 on: June 25, 2014, 03:37:06 PM »
I filed the necessary missing papers with the Swiss police. Eh oui - central europe there are always papers and stamps and more than one office to visit for such matters.
I planned to go pay for new papers and went back to the supermarket and insisted they look everywhere someone might have stored it and of course they found it.

The wallet is vintage german. They don't make em like that anymore.  I doubt LV, Hermes or Tom F*cking Ford.  But as I never step foot in the LV or Hermes stores these years, I dunno really.  10 years ago I was unimpressed with the then current craftsmanship at LV and Hermes, though Bottega Veneta was enviable.

Anyhoo, glad to have it back and puts off another few years before I need to find a wallet.  Maybe between now and then another quality vintage one will cross my path... We can hope for that...

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« Reply #135 on: June 26, 2014, 01:52:17 PM »
There I was getting all righteous about designer frippery then I remembered the first shop I ,d hit in Milan with that cash no problem script
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #136 on: June 26, 2014, 06:20:31 PM »
i bought a stuffed squirrel today, from the martha stewart collection

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« Reply #137 on: June 26, 2014, 07:12:22 PM »
i bought a stuffed squirrel today, from the martha stewart collection

Got an apple in its mouth ? is it cornbread stuffing ?

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #138 on: June 26, 2014, 07:53:00 PM »
Got an apple in its mouth ? is it cornbread stuffing ?

even better, a squeaky thing in its ass

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #139 on: June 26, 2014, 08:25:34 PM »
even better, a squeaky thing in its ass

I get it now . I got a weasel with a squeaky ass . I don't have a dog anymore but I do keep two of my neighbors dogs from time to time and they love the weasel .

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #140 on: June 26, 2014, 09:12:14 PM »
I was gonna buy a rooster with  squeaky ass for a friend's dog. I thought it was the best of the toys besides the balls.. But then OCD like I though 1) the squeaky is annoying an 2) the squeaker seemed like a dog-choking hazard.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #141 on: June 27, 2014, 06:27:30 AM »
Back away from the sweaky thing do not under any circimstances give a dog a sweaky thing unless you really dislike the owner.
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #142 on: June 29, 2014, 12:48:49 PM »
My god does the trolling never stop from some of you people? 8am this morning I have my thumb up some straight guys ass and the phone starts going off incessantly, I have my text msg alert set as a clown car horn so of course it ruins the mood and the guy snaps out of his ether induced haze and promptly leaves my lair. :(

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #143 on: June 29, 2014, 08:48:06 PM »
I have my thumb up some straight guys ass and the phone starts going off incessantly, I have my text msg alert set as a clown car horn so of course it ruins the mood and the guy snaps out of his ether induced haze and promptly leaves my lair. :(
Clearly a drugged induced dream on your part, and a junky phone to boot! And if by so remote possibility there is some truth to this, do you still have your wallet?

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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #144 on: June 29, 2014, 09:23:35 PM »
Clearly a drugged induced dream on your part, and a junky phone to boot! And if by so remote possibility there is some truth to this, do you still have your wallet?

always good to hear from you DS. ::)
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Re: Nobody talking bout nothing no more...
« Reply #145 on: June 30, 2014, 06:07:00 AM »
My god does the trolling never stop from some of you people? 8am this morning I have my thumb up some straight guys ass and the phone starts going off incessantly, I have my text msg alert set as a clown car horn so of course it ruins the mood and the guy snaps out of his ether induced haze and promptly leaves my lair. :(

PLEASE NO TXT TROLLING ON SUNDAY MORNINGS


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'don,t you just hate it when that happens '

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Gosh.
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