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Author Topic: Fellatio with canker sore and bleeding gums  (Read 1091 times)

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Fellatio with canker sore and bleeding gums
« on: May 21, 2014, 08:05:48 AM »
Hi there,
Appreciate your help in advance
I'm a gay male and 2 weeks ago I engaged in a threesome with 2 other guys. I was the receptive partner and we had protected anal but unprotected oral. The thing is I asked them if they were STD-free and they both said yes. The next day I found out that they were both HIV+. I'm not so worried about anal because it was protected but I'm really worried about oral because I had bleeding gums and a canker sore on my upper lip at that time. And I also partly did a mouthwash for about 3-4 secs just to get rid of any bad breath 10 minutes before. I know you accept oral as no risk but I was wondering if your opinion would change in this scenario cause I think I literally did everything that I shouldn't have done before oral and I also read somewhere that mouthwash kills the good bacteria that prevents virus to enter the bloodstream. There was no ejaculation apart from pre-cum which I don't remember tasting. I'm definitely getting tested but I really need your opinion as I've heard so many good things about this forum

Many thanks

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Re: Fellatio with canker sore and bleeding gums
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 09:02:23 AM »
Hi Aiden . There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.) These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years. The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex. Any kind of oral sex. These studies yielded NO infections.

In order for the oral sex to have been a risk you would have to have had significant open wounds in your mouth and that does not mean bleeding gums or a cold sore .

You have not had a risk for HIV so its OK to stop worrying over this specific incident .

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Although you did not have a risk and do not need to test for this specific incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: Fellatio with canker sore and bleeding gums
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 09:08:12 AM »
Wow that as quick. Thank you for your reply. By the way the sore I had on the inside of my upper lip was a canker sore not a cold sore. Would it make any difference ?

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Re: Fellatio with canker sore and bleeding gums
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 09:20:21 AM »
No ... its still not a risk . Your saliva contains proteins and enzymes to damage HIV and render it unable to infect and this is another reason why oral sex is safer sex .

Its exceedingly rare for HIV to be transmitted from oral sex and in order for that to happen specific things have to take place like a partner with a very high viral load and the one performing oral needs large open wounds in the mouth .

You need not worry you were infected in this incident . 

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Re: Fellatio with canker sore and bleeding gums
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 09:30:10 AM »
Thank you so much for taking time and sorry if I'm being persistent but this is my last question.. would the mouthwash I did make any difference on saliva killing hiv ?

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Re: Fellatio with canker sore and bleeding gums
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 09:34:28 AM »
Thank you so much for taking time and sorry if I'm being persistent but this is my last question.. would the mouthwash I did make any difference on saliva killing hiv ?

No difference at all . HIV is really that fragile . Just continue on with your regular sexual health checkups that all sexually active people should be having anyway . Use condoms correctly and consistently and you will avoid HIV .


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