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Bad choice
« on: May 20, 2014, 10:43:12 PM »
8 days ago I picked up a USA hooker off the street.  She stated she has done this over the last 7 years but insisted on condoms for everything. Well any way she gave me protected oral sex and I did perform protective vaginal sex for about 10 seconds and decided that I was done with it.  I did not pay close attention to the condom but didn't anything stand out when i pulled it off. So I have a sore throat today and I visit my doctor and ask if I had a chance I could have caught HIV from this and he stated yes as the condom could have been broken and I did not see it and the sore throat could be a symptom of HIV.  He also stated the condom I used was not latex and may not have protected me the way latex does. I don't completely remember the name of the condom I just have reactions to latex so I opted for non latex, I know it was like SKINZ (condom name?). Anyways I am reaching out to see what the heck my doctor threw me for a loop.  Was this a risk and are his statements correct?

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Re: Bad choice
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 03:42:56 AM »
Scar,

The only type of condom that does not protect against hiv is the lambskin condom. No sex worker is going to use lambskin because 1. they're too expensive; 2. they're difficult to find and most importantly; 3. sex workers use condoms to protect themselves, not you, so she's not going to use something that does not offer her protection.

Polyurethane condoms (used when one is latex-sensitive) DO prevent hiv infection every bit as effectively as latex ones. In fact, because you can use oil-based lubes with polyurethane, they can actually be safer to use when one doesn't have water-based lube on hand. This means you can use whatever lotion or potion is on the bedside table without risking breakage.

You cannot do that with latex; you MUST use water-based lube with latex. Oil or mineral based lubes can degrade latex and cause the condom to break.

Also, when condoms break, it's obvious. You would more than likely have noticed if it broke.

At the end of the day, while you didn't have a risk, if you're not already in the habit of regular sexual health check ups then it's high time you started.

Regarding your doctor - far too many doctors do not keep themselves informed about hiv issues, including transmission. Many also let their hearts rule their heads and give risk assessments based on their own fears and prejudice. We see it here all the time.

You know, sometimes a sore throat is just a sore throat. Most people never have a single symptom of hiv seroconversion. Neither symptoms nor even the lack of symptoms will ever tell you a single thing about your hiv status. ONLY testing will.

One more thing - I hope you realise that ANYONE you have sex with could potentially be hiv positive and either not tell you, or not know themselves, so you need to always protect yourself by using condoms. People are not high or low or no risk, ACTIVITIES are high or low or no risk. It's not WHO you do, it's HOW you do it that matters.

The only true "risk group" for hiv is that group of people who have or have had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse (or share drug injecting equipment) with persons of unknown or positive hiv status. If you've ever had unprotected intercourse with anyone, then you're in this risk group. Most people in the world are.

Unless you've tested together with a person in the context of a mutually monogamous relationship, then you cannot be 100% sure of anyone's hiv status.

Wrap it up and you won't have to worry about any of this, regardless of with whom you have anal or vaginal intercourse. Those are the only true hiv risks, sexually speaking. Got it? Good.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV SPECIFICALLY FOLLOWING ORAL OR PROTECTED INTERCOURSE, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann


PS - the condom name was most likely SKYN and yes, they protect against hiv. Avanti is another widely used non-latex brand.
« Last Edit: May 21, 2014, 04:00:11 AM by Ann »
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Re: Bad choice
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 04:45:40 AM »
Thanks for the reply.  So you do believe I would without a doubt known if the condom broke?  Also do the non latex condoms break the same way as latex? Do you see this as a risk to test over?

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Re: Bad choice
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 05:19:51 AM »
Scar,

A broken condom (latex or otherwise) is normally obvious because as one of our moderator puts it, it ends up looking like a fringed hula-skirt hanging off your penis. It's not about tiny holes, it's about huge gaping rips and tears.

In my experience, polyurethane condoms are less prone to breakage than latex. Your mileage may vary. If you use plenty of lube (spit is better than nothing if you don't have lube) and make sure there is no air trapped in the tip, you're unlikely to ever have one break on you.

Trapped air is probably the main cause of breakage. This is also the most obvious type of breakage, because the head of your penis will be peeking out from the end of the condom.

At the end of the day, if you're in any doubt, go test at the appropriate time. As a sexually active adult you should be having regular, complete sexual health check ups anyway.

If you've never had a sexual health check up before, now is the time to get into the habit. It's not really much different to having regular dental appointments. You may not have a toothache, but you go anyway to keep your oral/dental health intact. It's what responsible, sexually active adults do to look after their own health and that of their partners. If you're man enough to have sex, you should be man enough to have regular check ups.

As I said above, the other STIs are MUCH more easily transmitted than hiv and unlike hiv, condoms do not fully protect you against some of them like genital warts and other strains of HPV, syphilis and herpes. Many STIs can be present with NO obvious symptoms. The ONLY way to know the state of your sexual health is through regular (at least once a year) testing.

I hope I'm getting through to you - while you don't need to test over this specific incident, you DO need to have a COMPLETE sexual health check up periodically. If you don't already do this, you need to start. 

Ann
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Re: Bad choice
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 08:28:56 AM »
Thanks I guess regret and anxiety play the biggest role in this. It's like my mind would not allow myself to understand I had protected sex but focus on the worse case that the condom broke and I didn't see it when removing it. I have the tendency to go to the extreme on situations regarding my health. I believe in the future To save from anxiety I will just play solo lol. I am really shocked that I can get better and accurate info here rather than my GP. I believe he used a scare tactic on me which only made the concern worse and was completely unnecessary. 

 


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