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2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« on: May 06, 2014, 05:02:03 PM »
Hello Poz Community.

I had two risky exposures 2 weeks apart in the month of February. One was on the 1st of feb which was a girl I had been sleeping with since January (unprotected). The other was on the 14 which was my ex girlfriend (unprotected). Who is proven negative.. Around February 20 I got small red like rash in a spot on my abdominal that I ignored because I get acne and scarring all over my chest, some fatigue, and slight sore throat no fever. Which went away in about 4 days. Except sore throat. On March 4 I checked into the Er because my throat was sore and I had low back pain. The dr. Did a urine sample and x-ray (everything clear) and then gave me some antibiotics . The very next day I had nausea and was very cold and felt what seemed to be the flu coming on. That's when slight headache, sore throat, loss of appetite, loss of weight, swollen lymphs, what seem to be thrush then geographic tongue and night sweats set in. Went to the dr. Got standard hiv test negative on March  11th after all symptoms subsided except night sweats (almost 6 weeks for first girl and almost 4 for second). Afterwards caught sinus infection and allergies. Night sweats still persist. Went to doctor on April 11th got full std test and hiv test. All negative which was  10 weeks for first girl and 8 for second girl. Got another standard hiv test on april 28 which was negative. Which is 12 weeks for first girl and 10 weeks for second. Night sweats still persist. My doctor said that it could be due to anxiety. But I never had night sweats until I got sick on March 5. I read that 12 weeks is conclusive but is that with standard hiv test. Or should I keep testing up to 6 months. My doctor said I shouldn't keep getting tested. But I don't know how educated he is on hiv.. I'm in complete distress and found the website searching the Internet. I see the excellent help and answer people get here and I wanted to get help and commend all you for your great answer and encouragement. I know it's a lot of false and old information concerning hiv on the Internet and that symptoms is not a way to diagnose it. Please help
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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2014, 05:56:36 PM »
Winner, your symptoms notwithstanding you seem to have scooted by safely in your two risky incidents. Your negative test result is very unlikely to be anything other than negative again conclusively when you test at 3 months past the second incident.

There is nothing HIV specific about your symptoms, but then you need to know that symptoms or a lack of them is never an accurate way to know about your HIV status. Only an HIV specific test done at the right time can give you that answer.

Hopefully you are going to come out of this ok. But you need to learn from this experience. You need to stop having unprotected intercourse because when you are unprotected you are putting your health and your life at stake. It's as real as that.

Good luck with your conclusive test. If your symptoms persist you should discuss them with your doctor. I don't think they have anything to do with HIV.
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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2014, 06:11:14 PM »
Thank you Andy for the encouraging words. I pray blessing, love and light over you and your family. I will most definitely always wear protection no matter the situation until I'm in a monogamous relationship where we both tested negative together assuming my status stays the same. But 1 more question Is 3 months post exposure conclusive with standard testing. And what are my chances of the 10 week negative test turning positive.

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2014, 08:53:48 PM »
The average time to seroconversion is 22 days. Most who are infected will test positive by 6 weeks. For various reasons a small number will take longer and that is why we follow the CDC recommendation to test at 3 months for a conclusive negative result.

A 10 week negative result is not likely to change provided this was your only concern .

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2014, 09:23:01 PM »
Thank you Jeff. Many blessing to you also. But my concern was if the standard testing was 3 month conclusive because I don't know what type of test or generation test they are using I only saw the dr. write hiv 1 test on the paper he gave to tech . I stay in the state of Louisiana if that matters.. And also Andy said there was nothing hiv specific about my symptoms. Do they have hiv specific symptons. Thank you guys for the useful information because the Internet is filled with things that only fuel my anxiety and it's really driving me crazy.

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 09:29:54 PM »
Do yourself a big favor and stop looking on the internet. As your finding out it only feeds your fears to no good purpose. With your negative result already in hand I expect you to continue to test negative.
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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2014, 09:30:20 PM »
The test at 3 months are conclusive if there have been no other unprotected anal or vaginal sex in the 3 months prior to the test . Im sure you can trust the standard antibody test you doctors use . If you have questions about the test ask them .

We do not discuss symptoms because they are not specific to HIV and the only way to know is to test ... If you are sick you need to see your doctor and find out why, we cant help you with that . 

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2014, 09:19:07 PM »
Hello again pox community I was just wondering if any of you have seen a 10 week negative turn positive. And also my night sweats subsided last night so could this be the indication that my symptoms has finished and now I'm converted.. I know it is highly unlikely that a 10 week change but have any of you seen it happen. I'm also having low back pain and stiff neck. Please help

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2014, 09:25:18 PM »
Hello again pox community I was just wondering if any of you have seen a 10 week negative turn positive. And also my night sweats subsided last night so could this be the indication that my symptoms has finished and now I'm converted.. I know it is highly unlikely that a 10 week change but have any of you seen it happen. I'm also having low back pain and stiff neck. Please help

I have never seen a 10 week negative HIV test to go on the be positive . You are worrying over nothing and should expect a negative result because its not going to change at this point .

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2014, 09:59:29 PM »
Thank you for your reply jeff. I am just expressing major concern because even though I know HIV symptoms are not specific. I had the majority if not all of them within the time span given of having unprotected sex even though I am a healthy individual who rarely gets sick and works out 4 times a week. I know a 10 week negative is a good indicator of your status. But since the CDC says 3 months is conclusive does that mean there are cases when it can change. I appreciate your help and I do believe you are knowledgeable about this subject. Thank you for taking your time and answering my questions and concerns.

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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2014, 10:02:39 PM »
You're welcome .

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2014, 11:22:48 PM »
The reason why I asked was because of the cdc recommendation of 3 months, and me being unsure of the type of generation test I was given. Which is fueling my anxiety.

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2014, 12:36:24 PM »
The reason why I asked was because of the cdc recommendation of 3 months, and me being unsure of the type of generation test I was given. Which is fueling my anxiety.

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2014, 05:57:07 PM »
At 3 months all generations of tests in use today will give a reliable result.
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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2014, 07:22:17 PM »
Thank you Andy,  1 last question though. Does length of time you had sex (Say 30 seconds for example) affect the amount of virus that enters your body which could make a it longer for antibodies to develop and to be detected.

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2014, 08:20:02 PM »
Thank you Andy,  1 last question though. Does length of time you had sex (Say 30 seconds for example) affect the amount of virus that enters your body which could make a it longer for antibodies to develop and to be detected.

The duration of sex does not matter in terms of when someone would test positive.

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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2014, 08:42:13 PM »
Thanks Joe, What would actually slow down the development of antibodies to beyond 10 weeks?? I'm trying to get as educated about this matter as possible. So that hopefully when I test out negative I can help my friends and family understand this better because the region I live in is highly uneducated about HIV so please help..

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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2014, 08:51:08 PM »
We cant quantify a risk . Its really pretty simple in the fact if you had a risk the only way to know if you are infected is to test at the appropriate time .

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2014, 11:07:24 PM »
Hello poz community I'm still suffering with neck stiffness, low back pain, vision is blurred seeing streaks where there is light, and bad appetite. My last test was negative at 10 weeks for the last exposure and I want to wait until the 14th of may to test at 3 months exactly.. I can't help but be anxious and kinda freak out when I see all the ars symptoms I had within the time span.. Please help with encouraging facts about people in my situation. I also read someone say they tested positive after a 10 week negative. Please help

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2014, 03:51:15 AM »
Circle,

If you feel unwell, GO SEE A DOCTOR about it instead of mithering us about it. While we cannot diagnose you over the internet, we CAN tell you that a ten week negative test is highly unlikely to change. This means that whatever is causing you to feel unwell is NOT hiv.

Go find out what is actually going on instead of wringing your hands over a virus you do not have.

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2014, 06:30:26 PM »
I didn't have any illness between my last HIV- test in june 2006 and my HIV+ test in october 2006.

That said, I still think I had an HIV related illness, but before. In early 2006 I had many sex partners, but always safe - or so I thought. I tested HIV negative in early march 2006.

In april 2006 - I had very bad vomitting for several nights long. My throat was hurting like hell and I could barely drink, let alone eat. I became very dehydrated and lost about 10 lbs in a week. I was tested for and diagnosed with strep throat. After I got antibiotics, the illness went away. This was a very bad illness and I have never had anything like it before. That's when I believe my seroconversion illness happened.

2 months later, in late june 2006, I was diagnosed with chlamydia. I retested for HIV, but I still tested negative.

In late october 2006, I tested positive during my routine annual physical. And I had a very low viral load (598).

I think my illness in april was related to HIV infection. I don't know if it's proper to call it "seroconversion illness" since I still tested HIV- over 10 weeks after it. According to current scientific views, I should have tested positive after it if this was a seroconversion illness. So maybe it should have another name. But I still think I was infected already by then, and that this illness was related to HIV - it was not just a plain strep throat.

I'm sorry to continue bothering you guys I go in for a test next week. But i am in extreme stress amd this is the onky place i can get answers and somw comfort until i test again.But is this a rare case posted above. Because the girl from the first exposure had most of the symptoms I had in December but I tested 12 weeks negative past the encounter with her. So could I possibly test positive now. I'm experiencing the same symptoms she was in December.. 

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2014, 06:47:52 PM »
I'm sorry to continue bothering you guys I go in for a test next week. But i am in extreme stress amd this is the onky place i can get answers and somw comfort until i test again.But is this a rare case posted above. Because the girl from the first exposure had most of the symptoms I had in December but I tested 12 weeks negative past the encounter with her. So could I possibly test positive now. I'm experiencing the same symptoms she was in December..

Your 12 week negative result is conclusive.  YOU ARE NEGATIVE.  Whatever symptoms you may be experiencing, have NOTHING TO DO WITH HIV.

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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2014, 07:06:10 PM »
I tested negative 12 weeks past first exposure and 10 weeks past second exposure with different girl. My next test will be past 3 months for both exposures.. I was just checking on my chances of the 10 week negative to turn positive like the guy in the posts I quoted. Could this have happen to him because of the test that was used in 2008 or was it just a rare occasion or should I test up to 6 months..

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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2014, 07:13:47 PM »
I tested negative 12 weeks past first exposure and 10 weeks past second exposure with different girl. My next test will be past 3 months for both exposures.. I was just checking on my chances of the 10 week negative to turn positive like the guy in the posts I quoted. Could this have happen to him because of the test that was used in 2008 or was it just a rare occasion or should I test up to 6 months..

The post you reference has nothing to do with your situation, as you have reliably tested negative.  You do not need to test at 6 months, as a 10 week negative, on the second exposure, is not going to change.  You are negative.

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Re: 2 exposures 2 weeks apart. Please help
« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2014, 07:35:31 PM »
Thanks for the answers Joe. My concern is that I was an individual who considered himself healthy. And ever since my sickness after the second exposure. I still have night sweats, muscle twitching, sinus allergies (which I didn't have prior to getting sick), and some diarrhea and stomach problems. My doctor says everything was fine in my cbc blood work about 4 weeks ago. But I am still in the window period and would my CBC show abnormalities if there was an HIV infection..

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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2014, 07:39:30 PM »
Thanks for the answers Joe. My concern is that I was an individual who considered himself healthy. And ever since my sickness after the second exposure. I still have night sweats, muscle twitching, sinus allergies (which I didn't have prior to getting sick), and some diarrhea and stomach problems. My doctor says everything was fine in my cbc blood work about 4 weeks ago. But I am still in the window period and would my CBC show abnormalities if there was an HIV infection..

There is nothing more that we can do for you, as you have reliably tested negative.  The fact that you are unable to accept that you are negative, is most probably causing many of your symptoms, but only your doctor can help you at this point.  Your prior health has nothing to do with your status.

YOU HAVE TESTED NEGATIVE.  YOU ARE NEGATIVE.

Please do not continue to post about this non-issue.

Thank you for your cooperation.

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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2014, 04:56:10 AM »
Thank you guys for all your help I really appreciate it. You guys helped me get through a tough time and now I'm fully confident going into my last test for the second exposure.. 1 last question should I ask for a HIV-1 and HIV-2 test or will a HIV 1 test detect both at this point.

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We do not discuss symptoms and CBC test ... that is between you and your doctor . You are HIV negative and your test will not change, you have already been told a 10 week negative result is highly unlikely to change and that is our final word on it  . You are now officially warned about excessive posting .

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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2014, 01:21:02 AM »
I just want to really thank everyone on this website that is helping me through these tough times. My last test was a 21 week negative ag/ab test. Taken with a new doctor who suggest i retest after 6 months. I do not know if the girl i had my exposure with on feb 1 was newly infected but most of the symptoms i am experiencing now is the exact same thing she experienced. A flue like illness. Reocurring throat and issues. Stiff neck and dizziness. I have no means of contact with her to even question her status. I am 23 weeks post exposures and i am still experiencing stiff neck, itchy hives, swollen lymphs in my throat and behind my ear, small little red bumps all over my chest and vision blurry. I visited the doctor because i had caught tonsillitius and i told him all my symptoms and my exposures and he recommended i get tested again after the 6 month mark. My stress and anxiety has come back because of this. Is my doctor not knowledgeable about hiv or is my 21 week hiv ag/ab 4th generation test not conclusive. He says all my blood work looks good but what about these symptoms. And how does the person who i was exposed to have the same symptoms at the time of my exposure. Please help

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■Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result,  or no-risk situation will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

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« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2014, 01:56:50 PM »
How am i posting a conclusive Negative when my doctor said i should test at 6 months. And i had unprotected sex multiple times with a girl of unknown status which is a real risk. Its a bad feeling getting blown off when you have real questions.

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« Reply #32 on: July 12, 2014, 02:26:57 PM »
How am i posting a conclusive Negative when my doctor said i should test at 6 months. And i had unprotected sex multiple times with a girl of unknown status which is a real risk. Its a bad feeling getting blown off when you have real questions.
    Tell your doctor to get up to date with the testing guidelines. There hasn't been a 6 month testing guideline since 2004.

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« Reply #33 on: July 12, 2014, 03:37:26 PM »
How am i posting a conclusive Negative when my doctor said i should test at 6 months. And i had unprotected sex multiple times with a girl of unknown status which is a real risk. Its a bad feeling getting blown off when you have real questions.

We have not ignored your questions and you are conclusively negative.  Any symptoms you are experiencing HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH HIV.

You are negative.

I am removing your ability to post, pending any further decisions by Jeff.

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« Reply #34 on: July 12, 2014, 03:47:31 PM »
I have given you the time out you were warned about so that you can spend this time getting the help you need in order to move past this and come to terms with your negative HIV test . Im wishing you the very bests and hope you get the help you need .

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