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Author Topic: Flu shot and it's affect on VL  (Read 661 times)

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Offline Almost2late

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Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« on: April 17, 2014, 01:46:21 PM »
Hello everyone,

  Gotta question again: My VL went up a tiny bit which seem to perplex my Doc since I was doing so well bringing it down before. He wants to check my genotype again. Then I just remembered he gave me a flu shot 2 weeks before the last VL test.. Do you think this has something to do with it? I would of asked him but I remembered after our visit... Anybody know of this :-\

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 02:30:21 PM »
A rise rom 1900 to 1918 is the same number clinically -- viral load increase/decrease is measured in logs, not absolute numbers. Your doctor is clueless if he didn't explain this to you and looked perplexed.

http://i-base.info/qa/factsheets/viral-load-converting-log-values-to-numbers
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Offline AusShep

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 02:47:35 PM »
A rise rom 1900 to 1918 is the same number clinically ...

Yep. 

Looking at your sig your VL went from 2900 to 1900 in one day, then still at 1900 2 weeks later?  Seems more like the first 1900 was more of a blip and you're still on a downward trend.  Only 2 months ago you were at a quarter million.   You're still doing great.

Offline Almost2late

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 03:08:15 PM »
Yeah Miss Philicia, I know that its really not different but for it to pretty much remain the same after two weeks is weird... I think the flu shot had something to do with it.. BTW I am looking for another ID or HIV Doc anyways... Need one with more Experience

Offline Jeff G

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 03:24:42 PM »
Yeah Miss Philicia, I know that its really not different but for it to pretty much remain the same after two weeks is weird... I think the flu shot had something to do with it.. BTW I am looking for another ID or HIV Doc anyways... Need one with more Experience

Its essentially the same number ... so its really not weird or anything at all for that matter . Its good news man ... go with it LOL . 

Offline Almost2late

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2014, 03:36:56 PM »
I don't really have a choice, do I?  But I did find this on the internets after searching...

"Because people with HIV are at an elevated risk for influenza-related complications due to a weakened autoimmune system, getting the flu shot is advised for most HIV-positive people. Getting a flu shot may temporarily increase your viral load as your immune system responds, but viral load is transient and usually returns to baseline within four weeks."

Offline zach

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 05:02:55 PM »
blips man, just a short bump in a long road

weigh that four week minor drop from a vaccine against the implications of what would/could happen from a bad bout of the flu

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Offline Almost2late

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 06:50:13 PM »
Absolutely Zach, I really would have taken the flu shot again after knowing it would place my VL destruction on hold for little bit just cause I don't want to end in the ER again... Adjusting to living with this disease is quite new to me.. Back in January I didn't know what the fuck was going on.. I didn't know I was HIV poz and then finding out I got AIDS off the bat, I thought that was it, I was done! I never knew there was HIV specialist or Infectious Disease Doctors and I didn't know I would need one.. All those OI's? never heard of most of them.. Now I got this ID Doc that looks at me, all worried about my VL.. That sucks! It sucks that I gotta figure out for myself that there's nothing to worry about cause my "Doctor" doesn't really remember that he ordered a flu shot or that its maybe a blip and he shouldn't be stressing me out with this..I realize that he's only human but I need someone who knows what there talking about.  I use this forum to help me deal with my "AIDS" related issues and it's been a BIG help.. Now that I know this VL issue is nothing to stress about, I'll just wait to see whats next.. And Jeff G, your right about my KS, the Oncologist said it doesn't look aggressive and probably will go away on its own with my meds, thanks for that :) I'm still learning about this shit from everywhere and anywhere I can find info... BTW if anyone out there from the Ft.Lauderdale area knows of a good HIV Doc, Please let me know.. sorry for all the drama but that's how I've been rolling lately :-[

Offline Jeff G

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2014, 09:08:44 PM »
You are welcome . You are making great progress even though it may not seem so ... just keep up the good work and you are going to be better than fine .

Offline Almost2late

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Re: Flu shot and it's affect on VL
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2014, 06:35:25 PM »
I've gotta question again and thought I'd keep it on this thread.. After reading others post about Doctors switching hiv meds on patients, It occurred to me maybe some docs get kick-backs for putting patients on certain hiv meds, maybe? I'm usually not so suspicious but after my last appointment when my doc said maybe we need to change meds and ordered another geno test, just made me not trust him.. Well, I took the geno, vl and cd4 test today and waiting on new results probably by next week, will give him the benefit-of-a-dought .. got fingers crossed that vl goes down.. don't want to be hopping around hiv meds unnecessarily.. I hear alot of bad side effects with atripla but it works for me, not going crazy and no pain.. just hope its killing hiv too.. Still looking for new hiv doctor in Ft.laudy if this guy turns out to be a fink.

 


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