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harleymc:
I'm a former officer with the Immigration Department in Australia. The ban on immigration for people with a chronic health conditions is a default that is frequently overturned on appeal. So it isn't as if you can't migrate to Australia because of HIV it's just a bit more complicated.

I'm not sure on what basis you are applying but I'd apply anyway then go through the appeals process. If you're serious about it rather than just wanting a talking point then start now.

mecch:

--- Quote from: lusopt on April 16, 2014, 07:41:21 PM ---I mean, what a hell, we are like a cancer to those countrys, im not able to pursuit my dreams or hapyness, its like we are living in jail.

what should I do? :(

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Countries have lists of who can and can't immigrate.  Sure, banning possible immigrants because of HIV+ status sucks.  But there are cost considerations, and also old fashioned fear and prejudice.
I wanted to point out that you should keep this in perspective of the reality of the world.  Do you really think there is open and free circulation of anybody to any country in the world, based on "pursuit of happiness" of all things? Get real. US put up a wall to keep Mexicans out, because they are Mexican.   Where's the wall for Canadians? 

friskyguy:
Cost Cost Cost! When a country like Australia has one of the best health care systems on the planet of course its reasonable that they would take into consideration health care costs in any potential immigration application.

In fact I recall the US, in only the last few years, recently overturned a ban on HIV travelers/visitors to that country, and not for emigration purposes!!!!!

I have friends in Australia and recently visited. It is one of the most progressive, reasonable and tolerant countries on the planet with a huge migrant base. In fact over 26% of the population was born elsewhere compared to 13% in the USA and 21% in Canada. Give the country some slack. :-))

I understand that the cost for the latest HIV meds ranges from absolutely free to a maximum government set price of USD 30 per month.

Would love to migrate there myself....has everything, snowfields, desert, tropical rainforests, beautiful untouched beaches and coral palm fringed islands, friendly people......and no republican party crazies or bible belt wastelands and probably the biggest drawcards.....no gun massacres.

mustrlon:
Australia may be great for certain things- not for other things. I lived there for a long time. It is far from perfect actually, and far from any other interesting place or activity on the planet. It has a better health system than America but not better than some other Euro or non-Euro countries. Take dental treatment, a single root canal or crown can cost thousands and many people are waiting to be treated for up to 2 years as they can't afford it, how horrible it would be to wait for dentist in pain for months - or you'll take a costly holiday to Thailand or India. Seeing specialists wasn't free either and it is a very expensive country overall. Good for HIV meds, all free or you pay very little. It comes down to personal preferences but the country is not for everyone- boring by Euro standards, even with the better HIV treatment options. Tolerant is not the word I'd use for Australia (Tolerant towards Muslims, Asians and refugees that escape from wars and starvation?). I know an American guy being sent back home for being HIV+ when he was on a bridging visa and going for de-facto migration (but this was 10 years ago). So my point is you are not missing out on that much, as abrupt as I may sound.

Jeff G:

--- Quote from: mustrlon on April 18, 2014, 06:55:05 AM ---Australia may be great for certain things- not for other things. I lived there for a long time. It is far from perfect actually, and far from any other interesting place or activity on the planet. It has a better health system than America but not better than some other Euro or non-Euro countries. Take dental treatment, a single root canal or crown can cost thousands and many people are waiting to be treated for up to 2 years as they can't afford it, how horrible it would be to wait for dentist in pain for months - or you'll take a costly holiday to Thailand or India. Seeing specialists wasn't free either and it is a very expensive country overall. Good for HIV meds, all free or you pay very little. It comes down to personal preferences but the country is not for everyone- boring by Euro standards, even with the better HIV treatment options. Tolerant is not the word I'd use for Australia (Tolerant towards Muslims, Asians and refugees that escape from wars and starvation?). I know an American guy being sent back home for being HIV+ when he was on a bridging visa and going for de-facto migration (but this was 10 years ago). So my point is you are not missing out on that much, as abrupt as I may sound.

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I was in Australia on a holiday and had an emergency root canal done on New Years day ... the dentist did the first part of the root canal to get me out of pain and filled the tooth for 70 US dollars . This of course was a one off experience but I found it impressive and it sure would not have been that easy or cheap any where else I have lived . 

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