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« on: April 15, 2014, 12:36:35 PM »
Hello

I am a bi male who has always been careful with other guys and girls.  This time I had unprotected oral sex with a guy and he sucked me for about 5 minutes until I ejaculated and then for another minute or so after that.  I did not see any blood but was not looking for it either.  He told me a week later that he was hiv positive and is not on meds. I now have sore throat and lymph nodes swelling under my arms and behind my ears.  I am scared I am infected.  What should I do?  Should I test and if so, when?  its been 26 days since we were together. Thanks so much

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« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2014, 12:41:38 PM »
You didn't have a risk for HIV in this situation ... that I read carefully .

There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.) These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years. The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex. Any kind of oral sex.

These studies yielded NO infections.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Although you did not have a risk and do not need to test for this specific incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2014, 04:21:42 PM »
So are u saying I do NOT need to test after an exposure with someone who is hiv positive??  I don't undertand that. Also my symptoms sound like ars and the timing is exactly the time they would normally start. Please explain. Thanks

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Re: Help Please
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2014, 04:27:06 PM »
So are u saying I do NOT need to test after an exposure with someone who is hiv positive??  I don't undertand that. Also my symptoms sound like ars and the timing is exactly the time they would normally start. Please explain. Thanks

What Jeff told you is correct and you do not need testing over oral sex, because oral sex DOES NOT expose you to HIV.  If you had been exposed, we would tell you, but oral sex is not a risk for infection.  HIV is a very fragile virus and is unable to infect once outside of the body.  The mouth is another barrier as saliva contains over a dozen proteins and enzymes that alter HIV and render it unable to infect.

Lastly, There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.)  These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years.  The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex.  Any kind of oral sex.

These studies yielded NO infections.

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« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2014, 04:33:58 PM »
That is exactly what I am telling you . You did not have a risk and no risk means no HIV .
 
Your symptoms are not specific to HIV and that's why we do not discuss them, if you are sick go see your doctor because if this is your only concern then its not HIV making you sick .
Here is the peer reviewed science we base out assessments on . 
 

No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2014, 10:47:41 AM »
Hello again.  I am sorry to bother you but I am so scared I cant eat or sleep.  I have had an hiv doctor tell me that my event was a risk for hiv, albeit a low one, it was still a risk he said. He recommended that I get an hiv duo combo test which he said would be conclusive at 28 days.  I went in and got blood drawn for the test through labcorp and they told me it would take 2 days for results. Its now going on 4 days and they say it could take another day or two.  I am afraid this means its going through confirmation after a positive test.  Do you know if these test take that long normally?  If there was blood present in his salivia then it could have gotten into my urethia...right?  Any help you can give me would be appreicated very much.  Thanks

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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2014, 10:59:26 AM »
Hello again.  I am sorry to bother you but I am so scared I cant eat or sleep.  I have had an hiv doctor tell me that my event was a risk for hiv, albeit a low one, it was still a risk he said. He recommended that I get an hiv duo combo test which he said would be conclusive at 28 days.  I went in and got blood drawn for the test through labcorp and they told me it would take 2 days for results. Its now going on 4 days and they say it could take another day or two.  I am afraid this means its going through confirmation after a positive test.  Do you know if these test take that long normally?  If there was blood present in his salivia then it could have gotten into my urethia...right?  Any help you can give me would be appreicated very much.  Thanks

You did not have a risk and the test you took will prove it ... it will be negative if this is your only concern . Im sorry you were talked into doing an unnecessary test . 

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2014, 03:24:43 AM »
Hello again.  I am sorry to bother you but I am so scared I cant eat or sleep.  I have had an hiv doctor tell me that my event was a risk for hiv, albeit a low one, it was still a risk he said. He recommended that I get an hiv duo combo test which he said would be conclusive at 28 days.  I went in and got blood drawn for the test through labcorp and they told me it would take 2 days for results. Its now going on 4 days and they say it could take another day or two.  I am afraid this means its going through confirmation after a positive test.  Do you know if these test take that long normally?  If there was blood present in his salivia then it could have gotten into my urethia...right?  Any help you can give me would be appreicated very much.  Thanks

Thomas,

Unless you're in the habit of repeatedly punching a person in the mouth before they blow you, there could not possibly be enough blood present to cause an hiv concern. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

If by chance they are running a Western Blot to confirm or rule out a positive antibody result, and if that WB test is poz, you certainly didn't get it from getting a blowjob. When was the last time you tested? Do you only run to test when you find out you've been with a poz guy? Or do you take people's word for it when they say they're hiv negative and bareback with them?

There is no way you got hiv from getting blown.

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