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performing oral sex
« on: April 11, 2014, 04:02:33 PM »
Hi,

I have Multiple Sclerosis and I had a small cut in my mouth.  I performed oral sex on a girl and I shouldnt not have done that. I am aware of the general consensus that performing oral is not anbHaiav risk but fact is that I have an auto immune disease and did have a cut in my mouth. I have had a fever for a few days and Dr has not been able to diagnose why I have a low grade fever. I am really stressed and would appreciate feedback on my exposure.
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Re: performing oral sex
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2014, 04:09:55 PM »
The theoretical risk for oral transmission of HIV comes from giving blow jobs to a man with a high HIV viral load while you suffer significant wounds in your mouth . Cunnilingus is not a risk ... your MS or cut in your mouth does not impact the fact that it was not a risk .

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Although you did not have a risk and do not need to test for this specific incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: performing oral sex
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2014, 06:29:14 PM »
Thanks Jeff. So to be sure, I am not at risk despite the fact that I have an immune system issue along with a cut/ soar in my mouth?

I am sorry to be a pain but the nerves are really getting to me. I am in the window period so cannot even test. Also I was hoping Ann could give an opinion on this not that I am downplaying your feedback Jeff. I was hoping I could get her opinion too. I have read a previous post here stating that oral condition of the mouth can play a factor and in this case a cut/soar was present.

Thanks for the great and admirable work you guys are doing here. God bless!

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Re: performing oral sex
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2014, 07:45:20 PM »
Thanks Jeff. So to be sure, I am not at risk despite the fact that I have an immune system issue along with a cut/ soar in my mouth?

I am sorry to be a pain but the nerves are really getting to me. I am in the window period so cannot even test. Also I was hoping Ann could give an opinion on this not that I am downplaying your feedback Jeff. I was hoping I could get her opinion too. I have read a previous post here stating that oral condition of the mouth can play a factor and in this case a cut/soar was present.

Thanks for the great and admirable work you guys are doing here. God bless!

Moe,

You do not need other opinions because you never had a risk.  The issue of immune systems only comes into play when you have a risk and YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK.  If you are unable to accept this fact, you can test at 6 weeks past this incident and collect your negative result.

Joe

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Re: performing oral sex
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2014, 07:58:36 PM »
Im sure she will chime in . A no risk sex means just that, you didn't have a risk therefor you could not contract HIV no matter what your health status is . There is also the fact that cunnilingus is not a risk and when we ALL speak of oral transmission its always about giving blow jobs to a man with a high HIV viral load while you suffer significant wounds in your mouth and not cunnilingus .

Auto immune diseases can give false positives and mess with HIV testing but they do not make no risk sex a risk .   

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Re: performing oral sex
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2014, 08:56:07 PM »
Hey..yeah I got nervous because of my MS and then there was a cut too. To make matters worse I have had fever for a week without any proper diagnosis. Either way thanks a bunch for the feedback. I do wonder why there is so much conflict over oral sex. I called the HIVp help line and it was suggested to me that oral sex such as the one is question us a small risk and there have been some documented cases so testing is 100% warranted. That just made me think and I posted here. Such confusion makes no sense but when can 1 say. Who to believe and who not to believe. I dont mean to say this in an offensive way and am sure you guys get an idea where I am coming from..

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2014, 09:01:55 PM »
If you cant accept that it wasn't risk then go test at 6 weeks and again at 3 months and collect a negative result . You can trust a negative HIV test .

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Re: performing oral sex
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2014, 04:49:52 AM »
Moe,

Having an autoimmune condition means your body's immune system is hyperactive to the point where it starts attacking your own body. It doesn't mean your immune system isn't strong.

However, you need to know that autoimmune conditions can cause FALSE positive hiv antibody results (due to that hyperactive immune system).

Any positive hiv antibody test result MUST be confirmed with further testing in the form of a Western Blot test.

So if you do test over this NO RISK incident and you get a positive result, don't consider yourself diagnosed - or not diagnosed - until that result has been confirmed or ruled out with a WB test. You'll be in a state of limbo for a few days, but there are no short-cuts to hiv testing.

Better yet, any time you test for hiv in your life you need to make sure the person doing the test is aware of your autoimmune condition, and is aware that it can skew the result.

They may not want to use a rapid test on you for this reason. A blood draw test where they take a whole vial of blood can be used for further testing before possibly falsely alerting you to a positive result when it isn't actually positive.

The only downside is that you won't get your results immediately; you'd have to wait anywhere from a day up to two weeks, depending on the lab's workload.

If you do test over this NO RISK incident, unless you've been having unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse that you neglected to mention, then any positive antibody result you get is going to be from your autoimmune condition, not hiv. So don't get excited until you get your negative WB test result. OK?

And as Jeff said, you can trust a negative result. Autoimmune conditions do NOT cause false negative results (provided the test is done outside the window period like with anyone else), only false positive results.

Again, you do not need to test specifically over this NO RISK situation. You only need to test if you're otherwise sexually active - with anyone - and you've been having unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse you neglected to mention.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!!!

Ann
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