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Offline RobbyR

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Weight Question
« on: April 02, 2014, 01:39:46 PM »
Just wondering, I know weight re-distribution is common for poz people, & a side effect of meds. I have always been tall & skinny, it's just the way I'm built. Most guys in my family are the same. So it's always been harder for me to keep weight on than to lose it. I've been on Atripla for 4 years, with great success. For about the first 3, I rapidly put on weight.  When I went on meds, I was really thin about 135-140 pounds, and 5'11. Within a couple years, I was up to 170. I also began addressing my mental health issues, I realized that being bipolar for so many years, I was having major manic periods and not realizing them, which caused me to take less than good care of myself.

When I started meds, my viral load was 27,000 not horrendous, & I never had full-blown aids..So long story short, within a few years of being on meds, I put weight on for first time In my life. Last fall, I got a pesky anal fissure, which caused me to have to modify my diet somewhat & I lost some, I am now around 163-166 pounds. I'm okay with that, my heaviest was 174 pounds. So I've lost about 10 pounds in the last six months or so & most of that was belly fat, which is where I always seem to gain.

I am one of those that even when I put weight on it doesn't show because it tends to be in my belly. And not much muscle. I've tried lifting weights, I drink Boost drinks constantly, & muscle milk, & eat high calorie foods, ice cream, Chinese food, pizza, fried chicken, etc but when I put weight on it's only in my belly & not too much muscle. Is this just genetics? Or could taking testosterone maybe help this?

My next appointment with my hiv doc is in two weeks I am going to ask her about this. My fissure is somewhat better now, & I am overall happy with being 165 pounds, it seems to be a good weight for me & I have been stuck at it for the last few months. But I really want to gain some muscle but can't seem to. Any ideas? I don't necessarily want to be any heavier than I am now, I'd just like to gain some muscle. Could testosterone injections or cream be a solution for a tall lanky guy like me? Thanks for any suggestions!
Started Atripla August, 2010.

Offline AusShep

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Re: Weight Question
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2014, 02:04:06 PM »
Sounds like mostly genetics.  Testosterone has at most a 2-3 kg impact on body fat outside of diet and exercise.  I doubt a Dr would prescribe it outside of a need due to low testosterone, bone density, or wasting.  Try more high protein low carb instead of high fat ice cream, pizza, fried chicken, Chinese food...

Offline Theyer

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Re: Weight Question
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2014, 02:42:40 PM »
Aren,t you meant to lift things?
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Offline Bizkits

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Re: Weight Question
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2014, 02:47:51 PM »
RobbyR,

   It sounds like you're consuming a very high-fat, high-calorie diet.  In a nutshell, especially as we age, your body tends to re-distribute fat. Mostly to your mid-section. It continues to grow as this is the area which generally contains the greatest fat stores as well as tissue space and visceral fat. Why are you drinking ensure? Do you not get enough calories elsewhere in your diet? What other symptoms are you having that is leading you to think you may have low testosterone? You can always have your level checked by your doctor. It however is not easily prescribed as it has it's own risks and indications. There's a pretty strict process to follow as well to get it.  (On a personal note, my brother has always been as you describe yourself...tall and skinny...I was always the one whose ass would jiggle if I even smelled a piece of pizza...anyway, he's got a spare tire now from years of beer, bbq and potatoes hehe).

Seriously, though from a gerneral health perspective, it wouldn't be a bad idea to look at your diet and try to start slowly modifying it. Do you exercise or work out? If so what's your caloric intake vs burn? I don't know enough about hiv meds to factor those in to weight/muscle re-distribution or how they effect your weight and metabolism. This is just in general. It's difficult to lose the "wrong" weight and gain the "right" weight, which is what it sounds like you're trying to accomplish. Have you spoken with a nutritionist? It's not ALL diet necessarily as well.

 

Offline AusShep

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Re: Weight Question
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2014, 02:56:22 PM »
Aren,t you meant to lift things?

Yes you are. 

But D&E with testosterone is better than D&E or testosterone alone for those that need it.  When I read up before starting testosterone, I think T alone could contribute a loss of around 2 something Kg of fat and increase lean body mass 1 something Kg, it has a slight positive effect on overall body composition, which is probably where some of the T turns fat to muscle, or if you stop working out your muscle turns to fat misnomers come from.

Robbie's diet looked more high fat, high carb than high protein which is more helpful for putting on lean body mass, and lower carbs lower fat is usually helpful for losing fat.

Offline RobbyR

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Re: Weight Question
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2014, 03:02:54 PM »
I do plan on talking with a nutritionist. I do curls and such, basic weight lifting within my ability. Part of it is genetics, I just have that tall lanky build, always have. So even though I weigh around 165, I look slim because I'm just built tall & lean like Abraham Lincoln lol.

And yes when I gain, it always is in my belly. My dad is the same way. Exactly. I'd like to build up muscles in my arms, but not sure if that's possible given my genes. I drink a ton of Boost protein drinks, maybe I need to try leaner proteins. I've tried the high calorie high fat diet & all that gets me is belly fat & no muscle anywhere where I want it.

Like I said, I accept that genes are a large part of it probably, if I could built a small but of muscle in my arms I'd be happy.

As for testosterone, I don't think I'm low, my libido is HUGE, & my energy level is pretty good. I just wondered if it might help me build muscle mass.

I def plan on asking my doctor.
Started Atripla August, 2010.

Offline harleymc

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Re: Weight Question
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 03:08:51 AM »
At 165 lbs and 5'11" you're in healthy body weight, you are not skinny.

If you want to use exercise to change your body shape that's fine talk to an exercise consultant / trainer but your body weight is normal.

Normal weight for this height is 133 - 179 lb (60 - 81 kg)
Height:   5'11" (180 cm)
Weight:   165 lb (75 kg)
BMI:   23.01
Weight catagory:   Normal weight

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Re: Weight Question
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 04:36:52 AM »
reading your other threads, i believe the issue is more body image dismorphia than anything else. its not your meds, its not lipodystrophy, let go of that thinking. its not even a problem man, you're normal, you're a normal guy, you look fine man.

no legit Dr is going to hook you up with test or steroids because you want to bulk up. make reasonable measured changes to your diet, exercise to lose the bad weight, work out and lift to gain the good muscle mass.

in this thread you went from blaming meds, to saying its genetics and you're built exactly like your father. both can't be true, and its not the meds. just no.

also in this thread, 15 days ago, you say you have begun addressing your mental health issues. this is far more important than your weight right now. what steps have you taken in those two weeks to seek mental health care? please robby, talk honestly to a doctor about your emotional state. you're not seeing it, but this body image problem is directly related. your meds are not to blame for your weight. but they may well be to blame for your other thoughts you're dealing with. your unwillingness to see that, or to talk to a doctorhonestly and completely about all your thoughts and problems, is frightening.

you've also said you don't have any friends. you do. all of us. i'd like to believe i'm your friend. i hope you feel the same way.
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