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Author Topic: Gilead's new HEP C drug  (Read 411 times)

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Offline mikeyb39

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Gilead's new HEP C drug
« on: March 26, 2014, 11:50:04 PM »
This kind of rubs me the wrong way for some reason.  Gilead is selling this new drug at 99 percent discount to Egypt and look at the cost it is for the US and other countries

I don't know if I buy the reasoning behind it.  I think the cost of this new drug is outrageous.  I hope I can stay away from HEP C, I can't imagine that most insurance companies will pay that kind of cost.

http://www.thebody.com/content/74204/gilead-offers-egypt-new-hepatitis-c-drug-at-99-per.html?ic=wnhp

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Re: Gilead's new HEP C drug
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2014, 02:58:56 AM »
If anyone thinks this is isolated to hep c and doesn't directly affect hiv should take note.

Any new HIV treatment, especially a cure treatment is going to be priced astronomically high. 

First they are going to need to recoup research and development costs.  Unlike current HIV therapy that people take every day for years on end (or life).  That cost can be spread out over a long period of time.  Any cure treatment would need to be recovered from a much shorter period.  Driving up the cost exponentially.

In addition, there is value of the treatment.  Any treatment that cures hiv in itself would be valued as so great to society the price adjustment would definitely be significant. 

A very valid question is...if current HIV treatment can keep people healthy at a fraction of the cost a new cure treatment costs, would anyone authorize paying for it?

As far as Gilead charging Egypt 99% less than what's charged in the US.  I don't care about that.  If they were charging 99% less in England, France, or japan I may have an issue since they are first world advanced economies that can afford the standard price.   There is no way most of the third world countries could afford treatment. In that case I don't mind us subsidizing them.  That's the right thing to do as human beings. 

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Re: Gilead's new HEP C drug
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2014, 07:21:55 AM »
Egypt has the highest incidence of hep C in their population than any where else in the world - and keep in mind that there are more people living with hep C than hiv in any country.

Just throwing that out there......
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Re: Gilead's new HEP C drug
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2014, 07:41:36 AM »
i have a hard time talking about this, my mother has hep c, and in the last ten years i've watched her go from a vital beautiful woman, to a shadow of what she once was. i'll be reading this thread just to learn as much as i can.


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Offline mecch

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Re: Gilead's new HEP C drug
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2014, 08:57:50 AM »
I don't think the term "third world" is used much.  It's "developing countries", "newly industrialised" and "developed counties" 
The "second world" was the former communist blocks, by the way.

Drugs are very expensive in rich countries, we all know why - intellectual property must be respected.  I doubt that any rich country heath care system can refuse to cover Hep C treatment at the "rich country price" that is somewhat negotiated, but super high.  I could see US insurance companies balking, but not national health services in other rich countries.  But the US has a pharma industry so I can't see a ban on an expensive Hep C cure being possible, among the mover/skaker class - power, industry and government.

I am sure its not going to be easy for rich countries to budget for the Hep C cure.  But that is apples, to the oranges that is the companies selling their expensive new drugs for cheap in poor countries.  That is something we all wanted and we can't begrudge it now.  The only thing to do is work on a solution for pricing and funding in rich countries.

 


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