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« on: March 25, 2014, 03:40:52 PM »
Good day. First off, i want to say that I've been searching the net for answers-support-info about possible HIV contraction and found this website to be the most informative and supportive that i could find. You guys are great and thank you for the support.

Now for my event. I was on vacation in Florida and in the early hours of Feb 13th, i was severely intoxicated and at a strip club when one of the strippers and myself went to the back room for dances. We had unprotected oral sex, both ways. i did not ejaculate but did have precum. We exchanged phone numbers that night and the very next day, i gave her a call and felt worried about what had happened. She just told me to stop worrying, that there was nothing to worry about.

I was back home from vacation and exactly 5 days later, in the night of Feb 17th to the morning of Feb 18, i started to feel off...had sever chills, body temperature felt hot...especially the head, headache, mild sore throat and dry cough. i also had nausea and didn't eat for a day and a half...didn't vomit or felt like vomiting...just didn't feel like eating. I did check myself for fever on several occasions, but never any signs of fever or lymph nodes. the chills felt like something was invading my complete body, from head to toe.

These symptoms lasted about 2 days and i woke up Wednesday Feb 19th feeling a lot better, but had a severe case of diahrrea, which only was that morning.

On Thursday Feb 20th, i had a scheduled appointment with my doctor and told him about the possible exposure. He felt i had nothing to worry about based on the info i had provided him. he still wanted me to get tested for HIV and STD. I asked him how worthy an HIV test would be after 7 1/2 day exposure when from what i was able to gather, i should at least wait 30 days...if not 3 months for definitive result. He explained to me that since i was experiencing possible ARS symptoms at day 5, that a test at day 7 1/2, although not conclusive, would be able to detect antibodies. And since he belived i had nothing to worry about, it was more to ease my conscience. As expected, the test results came back negative.

Since then, I've felt better but have had the following symptoms come on and off for over a month. Chills in my body, head feeling hot (again, no temperature of fever), headaches, mild sore throat and dry cough. I also had discomfort in my digestive system. Mild pains or mild constipation or having lots of gas...sorry for the expression.

These symptoms have lasted until 2 days ago (Feb 23rd) when i develop a cold with sinus congestion, which i understand is not an ARS symptom.

So the questions i have are the following:

1- i consider myself someone with a low immune system. I have pretty much all the allergies out there, sever case of asthma and since i was severly intoxicated the night of the possible exposure and had a few nights right after were i was drinking heavily, is it possible that ARS symptoms started after 5 days as i understand that ARS usually only starts at the earliest day 7.

2- Same type of question. Is it possible due to my low immune system that ARS symptoms can last for 5 weeks?

3- Is my Dr, correct in his assessment of testing 7 1/2 after exposure due to possible symptoms starting at day 5?

4- I was planning on getting tested at 3 months but i think i will go at 60 days. I was planning for a rapid test to get results right away. Is this the most reliable test i can do at 60 days or is there another type you recommend?

Again i thank you all in advance for your support. I am a very worried person in nature and do overly stress about many things. One of the things that got me more worried is that once the symptoms started, i got in touch with the stripper and offered her $200 for her to get an HIV test and she cut off the communications from that point. I might of offended her by asking that but nonetheless, it got me to worry even more.

Thanks again and will await your feedback,

Happyy

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Re: Really Worried
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2014, 03:43:55 PM »
You never had a risk of contracting HIV from oral sex.

HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users
Mother to child

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Re: Really Worried
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 03:59:28 PM »
Again i thank you all in advance for your support. I am a very worried person in nature and do overly stress about many things. One of the things that got me more worried is that once the symptoms started, i got in touch with the stripper and offered her $200 for her to get an HIV test and she cut off the communications from that point. I might of offended her by asking that but nonetheless, it got me to worry even more.

Happy,

It was not your place to ask this woman to test for HIV, when you had a no risk encounter.  It is not the person that matters when you have sex, it is what you DO when you have sex that matters.  You did nothing that put you at risk and the woman refusing to be tested does not change the fact that YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK.

Joe

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2014, 11:36:56 PM »
Rapid Rod and Joe K, thank you for the quick responses. I have read on this forum that oral sex is not a risk of contracting HIV, however I keep reading from other sites doctors stating that it is a minimal risk. I was also hoping to get some opinions on the specific questions outlined in my original post if that's not too much trouble. Thanks again.

Happyy

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Re: Really Worried
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2014, 11:48:45 PM »
You did not have a risk for HIV but if you wish to test the appropriate window period if you had a risk , and you did not ... is as follows . You can test 6 weeks past any possible exposure and again at 3 months to confirm the results .

Your immune health is not a factor, it would not matter with or without a risk .
We do not comment on what other websites say about HIV transmission and rely on the latest peer reviewed science to base our assessments on .

If you want to know why they say what they do you can go ask them . Best of luck . 

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2014, 06:53:17 PM »
I thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions and I understand about oral sex being a very low risk exposure (nil on this site) but my symptoms are just scary.

 I went ahead and got tested again on April 5th (51 days after exposure) for HIV and all STD's applicable to my exposure and symptoms. I should get my results back in 2 weeks.

The scary part is the symptoms I'm experiencing throughout this ordeal. Since my last post, the symptoms have mostly been digestive issues, meaning discomfort or slight pain in the lower abdomen, on the left side...especially after eating. Frequent need to urinate, hot head or flashes and chills...although the hot flashes and chills have slowed down a bit, and slightly white tongue. The other symptom that is hanging around, comes and goes during a days time (like all my symptoms), is that discomfort in the throat. Doesn't stop me from swallowing or eating, isn't painful...just annoying. I also have lost 15 pounds without exercising and besides a few days of nausea, without skipping any meals.

These symptoms have been going on for 6 weeks now, although I have seen a decrease in the symptoms last few days...and I don't know if that's a good thing or not. Just don't know what else could bring these symptoms for that long knowing it came on 5 days after an exposure.

 I haven't had the guts and courage to tell my girlfriend about this episode. But I have gotten so much closer to her...hate that it took this to do so but and I hope it will be something that I can learn from and move on in a good way.

I am also a heavy drinker and for the last 2 months, I've cut back big time on it. Basically a few nights while watching a hockey game with friends...and it wasn't to get drunk. I'm not missing it one bit and really enjoy the time spent with my GF and family. So I guess no matter how it turns out, there's a little good news in my situation.

 Scared but will find out soon enough.

I want to say that I have spent many hours on this site reading people's stories. I have the outmost respect for this forums community. Wether it's someone who's newly infected, or someone like myself who is in need of advice, knowledge or re-assurance, all of you should be proud of the time and effort and kind and comforting words you give us all. Special thanks to Ann, Jeff, Joe, Andy and RapidRod.

Happyy (by the way, my nic is taken from my dog's name that past away 6 months ago from leptospirosis disease..Not meant to insinuate that I'm happy)

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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2014, 05:11:15 PM »

Good day all,
As my previous 3 posts somehow got removed, i'll just post a recap of my situation.

I've been reading through this site for a few months now, as well as a few other sites, trying to gather as much info as I can. I am totally symptom driven and scared...which I also understand you probably won't be able to help me. But will try anyways.

My exposure is considered pretty much a no risk. I understand that and I get it. I was at a strip bar on Feb 12th and very intoxicated and a stripper offered me oral sex. I also performed oral sex on her. Grinding was involved.

5 days after my exposure, had severe chills, body temperature felt hot, especially the head, strong headache, discomfort in the throat and dry cough. i also had nausea and didn't eat for a day and a half. No fever or rashes or lymph nodes that I could see. The chills felt like something was invading my complete body, from head to toe. These symptoms lasted about 2 days. Had a severe case of diahrrea, which only was one morning.

I had an HIV antibody test done at 49 days post exposure on April 3rd, as well as STD's. All came back negative. I initially was overjoyed at this news and believed that my symptoms would go away but they haven't.   

 Since then, my symptoms have been
- digestive issues. Severe cramps or abdominal pains, especially after a meal which is usually followed by body chills or hot head or hot flashes.
- Frequent need to urinate, like every 2 hours.
- White lines around tongue edges
- Dry mouth
- Feeling tired.

I have also had 2 bouts of red dots on penis head appear. Doesn't hurt when peeing but penis head felt slightly hot. They went away after a few days on it's own. Also had 2 bouts of herpes appear on mouth. I've lost 25 pounds in 2 1/2 months, from 260 to 235 now. I just don't see anything else based on the time frame of the exposure and symptoms.

I then took a rapid test at 12 weeks post exposure on May 7th and result was negative.

Now I've lived with a permanent tension type headache that appeared one day 22 years ago for whatever reason. After several unsuccessful visits to the doctor trying to figure out what brought this on, I just learned to live with it. Pretty much the same time my chronic asthma and allergies appeared. I also have always had low platelets count for some reason, barely over 150.

The reason I'm bringing this up is that is it possible due to immune disorder that my weak immune system is most likely the reason that I tested negative at 7 weeks and 12 weeks since I was still in seroconversion process and hadn't developed enough antibodies to be detected yet?

It's hard to let this go and move on when you're dealing with daily symptoms. This has been going on for over 12 weeks now. What scares me is if I was positive over this situation, and that I had negative tests at 7 and 12 weeks and still experiencing symptoms after 12 weeks, I'd be afraid that my immune system wouldn't be able to cope well fighting this virus.

My main symptoms now are

- Pain in lower abdomen, especially at night while trying to sleep
- Frequent urination, I have to get up every night. Never had to do that before.
- Mild sore throat that's been there for 3 months now, on left hand side. Not a major pain, just a reminder that something is not right.
- Chills, hot head that comes and goes. No fever, just body temperature changes. Feeling slight coldness.
- Feeling fatigue.
- Lost 25 pounds.
- White lines on side of tongue.

I'm a heavy drinker, have abuse my body over the years from it. The last 2 1/2 months, I've cut back dramatically on the drinking, been eating healthy (lots of fresh veggies and fruits), drinking 10-12 glasses of water a day, taking supplements like Tchaga tea, Olive oil extract and one multi vitamin a day trying to help my body out, but to no avail. 

Anyways, sorry for the long post. Hoping for positive feedbacks, good or bad.


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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2014, 05:40:20 PM »
You did not have a risk for HIV to begin with and you have tested conclusively HIV negative .

If you are sick please go see your doctor and find out why, its not HIV .

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Re: Still Scared
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 07:38:26 AM »
Thank you Jeff for your reply. I'm obviously worried hence why I paid for advice. I was hoping that my concerns would be addressed but kinda expected that type of response based on my exposure, no matter the symptoms are I'm experiencing.

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Re: Still Scared
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 09:27:00 AM »
And yes, I did get my PCP to refer me to an ID specialist but unfortunately my appointment is only mid june.

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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 09:32:27 AM »
Thank you Jeff for your reply. I'm obviously worried hence why I paid for advice. I was hoping that my concerns would be addressed but kinda expected that type of response based on my exposure, no matter the symptoms are I'm experiencing.

We cant help you with symptoms and we never discuss them . If you are sick go see your doctor . You have tested negative for HIV so there is nothing more we can do for you . If you cant accept that you do not have HIV please discuss it with your doctor .

I'm glad you are going to see an ID doc because maybe they can convince you that HIV is not your problem although its a shame you have to waste your time in this manner .

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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2014, 07:28:41 PM »
Believe me, I want to move on. But my daily symptoms are a reminder that something isn't right with me. Hopefully, when I do see an ID specialist, we can figure this out.

I know I must of got infected with some type of STD, most likely herpes, regardless of my negative test results at 7 weeks. I've had this on/off itch and burning sensation in pretty much the same 2 spots. One midway on penis shaft and the other on pelvic area above penis.

Do you think it is possible that due to immune disorder that I could of tested negative at 7 weeks and 12 weeks since I was still in seroconversion process and hadn't developed enough antibodies to be detected yet?

I've seen Ann comment on the fact that if someone was to experience ARS symptoms, antibodies would show up on the test shortly after the start of symptoms. Where I get confused is would the antibodies show up only after the symptoms have ended, meaning your immune system kicked in, or the antibodies would show up shortly after the start of symptoms even if those symptoms are still ongoing several weeks later.   

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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2014, 07:31:44 PM »
If you are sick go see your doctor you do not have HIV .

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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2014, 02:31:33 AM »
Happyy,

Do NOT bother to respond to my comments - you are still under an "excess posting" warning.


I've seen Ann comment on the fact that if someone was to experience ARS symptoms, antibodies would show up on the test shortly after the start of symptoms. Where I get confused is would the antibodies show up only after the symptoms have ended, meaning your immune system kicked in, or the antibodies would show up shortly after the start of symptoms even if those symptoms are still ongoing several weeks later.   


The reason a person will test positive shortly after experiencing symptoms - when those symptoms are actually related to hiv - is because the illness is what the body goes through while producing antibodies. They're not caused by the virus itself.

Most of them are caused by a chemical called interferon. Interferon is what causes the fever, aches, nausea and other "flu-like" symptoms. Interferon is produced in response to many viral and bacterial pathogens, not just hiv. If the body's immune system triggers interferon production, it will also trigger antibody production.

It's the same process the body goes through in response to ANY virus. This is why ARS is described as being "flu-like", because the flu is also a virus and it's one that most people are familiar with.

If you had hiv, you would have tested positive by now.

Not only that, BUT YOU NEVER HAD A RISK FOR HIV TO BEGIN WITH!

Stop chasing a virus you do not have and start working with your doctor to find out what, if anything, is actually wrong with you. Whatever that may be, it is NOT hiv.

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Re: Still Scared
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2014, 10:57:55 PM »
Good day all
I have a general question and looking for your valued opinion. If someone was to seroconvert, does seronversion need to end for someone's body to be able to produce enough antibodies to show up on an antibody test or it would show up regardless at the 3 month point even if seroconversion
 was still going on. Thank you all.





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« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2014, 11:30:27 AM »
Happy,

What is it about NO RISK do you not understand?  You got a NO RISK blowjob and licked some NO RISK pussy. Get over it.

I'm giving you that time out you've been warned about. Do not attempt to create a new account (again) to get around your time out because if you do, you will be permanently banned.

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