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48 day negative test toying with me
« on: March 23, 2014, 01:21:25 PM »
I had a protected vaginal encounter with a CSW in Germany and she was an immigrant from Nigeria.  She was 33 years old and said she had been living in Germany for 15 years.  The place I went to was not high class.  It was like a hole in the wall.  Lasted about 7-10 minutes.  Condom rolled back noticeably once.  I have genital warts, and I may or may not have HSV I do not know and was never tested for it prior to this.

Next day I noticed a small tear in my skin, or what appeared to be a break in my skin.  I was sketched out by that place, and this frightened me.  I didn't know about PEP at the time and if I had I most certainly would have taken it.  I had initially developed a cold the day after too, mostly just an irritating stuffiness with a cough.  But about 8-9 days after I started noticing cold chills, and my hands, forearms, and feet were beginning to feel burning and tingling and I am somewhat pale so I noticed they were really red in those areas more than usual for sure.  I attributed it to my cold, then I went out to dinner, I had a beer and after taking about 3 sips I got a sudden feeling of lightheadedness.  Then my mind started to panic.  After that I started having chills with hot flashes.  I went to sleep that night and woke up with my head damp from night sweats.  I have never gotten night sweats.  Not even when I was 12 with the worst flu of my life.  Next morning I went and bought a thermometer and took my temperature from the 10th day on but my temp never reached over 99.1.  I also had a burning redness in the creases of my bicep muscle and the forearm and my pectoral/armpit area.  I should also mention my stools were loose and I had irregular bowel movements after the incident until now.  I noticed dry mouth, with white coating on my tongue the morning I woke after the night sweats.  I had crazy indentions in my tongue because it was so dry.  The night sweats, redness with burning tingling sensation in forearms, hands and feet, cold chills and hot flashes stayed with me until the 21st day.  Since the 21st day I noticed I can feel the lymph nodes more on the right side of my body.  I can feel them more in my neck, and my armpit.  My groin lymph nodes feel swollen and very hard.  I never had a sore throat, if I had a fever it would have only been for 2 days, since I started checking my temp on the 10th day and continuously checked it from that point forward.  Not sure if the redness was a "rash".  It didn't resemble a rash, but it was distinct redness. 

Today marks the 51st day, and the only thing that bothers me now is the same lymph nodes I stated earlier, and my irregular bowel movements which continue to be loose but not quite diarrhea.  I have had 6 tests leading up to the 48th day:
11 days 3rd Generation (Lab): Negative
17 days 4th Generation (Lab): Negative
26 days 3rd Generation (Lab): Negative
31 days 4th Generation (Lab): Negative
41 days Rapid Insti HIV-1/2 Antibody: Negative
48 days 4th Generation (Lab): Negative

I firmly believe I am HIV-1 safe.  I think that is evidence by the 3 4th generation tests I have taken.  The doctors I have spoken with basically say that it's conclusive at 4 weeks.  The sexual health clinic doctor I've spoken with says that an 8 week test would definitively determine my status.  The other says 4 weeks is conclusive.  And my physician says I need to wait for 3 months.  I'm beginning to think my physician is more right than the doctors.  I am concerned for HIV-2.  The lady was from West Africa.  And my symptoms were too many within the appropriate time to ignore them.  I am not scheduled for another test until the 12 week mark, but my anxiety won't let me wait that long.  I keep testing negative, and it feels good everytime, but then I remember the symptoms I experienced, and I am still experiencing.  Everyone I have spoken to friends wise all think I am stressing myself out.  My physician and Sexual health clinic doctor definitely feel like I put myself at risk, while the other doctor believes I had little to no risk.  He's also the one who believes a 4th Generation is conclusive at 4 weeks.  I'm so confused by this point and I've reached out to a lot of different people, but nothing seems to be easing my nerves.  Is there anyone who has seen a case like mine?  And that person actually end up negative?  I mean I had strong symptoms on day 8 through day 21.  And I've taken tests long after.  If I am infected, why the hell haven't I tested positive yet?  If I have it, I just want to know so I can start fighting it.  Thanks for your time reading this, I know it was long.   

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Re: 48 day negative test toying with me
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2014, 01:31:28 PM »
The small tear/rip/cut or break in my skin was on the shaft of my penis.  It was located about 3/4 of an inch from the base of my shaft.  I think it must have happened from friction of the intercourse but I can't be sure when or how it happened.  All I know was it was there the next morning.  And I remember the condom rolling past that point.

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Re: 48 day negative test toying with me
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2014, 01:35:50 PM »
Panda,

You never had a risk, you never needed PEP and you do not need further hiv testing. You do not have hiv.

Protected intercourse isn't a risk and it doesn't matter that the condom rolled down a bit. What's important is that the head of your penis remained covered.

The break or whatever in the skin on the shaft of your penis doesn't matter. The skin on the shaft of your penis is no different to the skin anywhere else on your body. For example, fingering with small cuts and abrasions on your fingers is not a risk and this is no different. No risk.

Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. There have been three long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: 48 day negative test toying with me
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2014, 01:37:25 PM »
Panda,

I forgot to say - if you feel unwell, see a doctor. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv. We do not discuss symptoms here; talk to your doctor about them.

At the end of the day, if you cannot bring yourself to believe that you had no risk, test again at twelve weeks past this incident and put this matter to rest.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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Re: 48 day negative test toying with me
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2014, 01:54:40 PM »
Thanks Ann,  I have seen 3 medical professionals.  None of them seem to be able to figure it out.  I had a WCB count lab done, and that was nearly a month ago.  It was normal.  Mostly the doctors have agreed that my lymph nodes in my neck seem larger, but they don't seem to think they are too big.  The nodes in my jaw have been pretty large since I had strep throat about 9 years back.  I've always been able to feel them since I generally take my pulse to monitor my workouts.  But I've never been able to feel my nodes in my neck otherwise.  And it concerns me they're still here.  I was always under the impression the head of the penis was what needed to be covered no matter what!  That's one question I asked my doctor about too.  He told me it does increase the risk especially when someone has other STDs. 

He's also told me to put more faith in my test results than my symptoms.  Well, I'm having a hard time believing everyone.  One person says I'm at risk, another says I'm not.  The internet also has conflicting information, some websites suggest it is a risk while others say it's only a "theory" and others say it's not a risk.  Then I turn to my symptoms which were vast, and specific.  But then everyone says only the test matters.  All my tests have been inside the "window" so how can I put my faith in the tests?  lol, it's a never ending, revolving nasty cycle.  I just want a conclusive, definitive answer.  I'll take whatever it is at this point.  Thank you for your help, Ann.

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 04:09:20 PM »
Panda,

Your doctor is correct when he says put your faith into the test results rather than your symptoms. Neither symptoms nor even the LACK of symptoms will ever tell you a single thing about your hiv status. ONLY testing will. Many people never experience a single indication that they've recently been infected.

Keep your hands off your lymph nodes. Touching, rubbing, poking and prodding them all the time can actually make them swell and keep them swollen until you knock it off.

I bet if this happened with some "ordinary" woman you met down your local pub, you wouldn't have worked yourself up into such a frenzy where you're actually making yourself feel ill. You need to understand that a woman doesn't have to be a sex worker in a sketchy brothel to be hiv positive. ANYONE you know could be hiv positive and either don't know themselves, or wouldn't dream of telling you because of the intense stigma we still face in the 21st century.

As I told you earlier, if you cannot bring yourself to believe that you have not been at risk, go test at twelve weeks and collect your conclusive negative result. As you weren't at risk you aren't really in a window period and so you're already conclusively negative, but if you want to believe you were at risk, we'll pretend you are in a window period. I can't say fairer than that.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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