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Offline Capital

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Feeling anxious...
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:53:27 AM »
Hi guys,

Congrats on an excellent forum – you provide a veritable wealth of great information. I’ve a few questions regarding a recent exposure if that’s ok?

I’ve slept with two sex workers in the last fortnight, a pre-op transsexual (approx. 16 days ago) and a female (approx. 5 days ago). I had protected (‘insertive’) sex with both (vaginal with the female and anal with the transsexual); on both occasions I removed the used condom from my penis after intercourse and proceeded to masturbate (with foreskin pulled down). Vaginal fluids, anal mucus and semen could all conceivably have been on my hand at this time. I also noticed a somewhat incongruous red pimple on the head of my penis after having visited the female sex worker (so potentially an easier route of transmission?). I’m pretty sure the condom didn’t fail either time as I cursorily inspected it (hence bodily fluids on hands) subsequent to each act of intercourse. I’ve trawled through this forum and am pretty certain that you guys are going to tell me that I haven’t had a risk. I wouldn’t be particularly concerned myself but two weeks after the first incident (with the transsexual) I started to experience both arthralgia in a number of joints (which is not something I’ve ever had a problem with) and a mild sore throat. I’ve been to the GUM clinic and was told that I’ve likely a virus…it seems to me just a little too coincidental that I contracted a virus and am displaying symptoms similar to those experienced during seroconversion at exactly the same time at which I would be experiencing symptoms of seroconversion had I been exposed to HIV during that first encounter.

So, my questions are as follows:

1. How would you assess my level of risk?
2. Am I correct in saying that condoms are not 100% effective but that the risk of infection for intercourse during which a condom is worn is negligible and thus considered ‘no risk’? My point being that if a risk is negligible, there is still technically a risk.
3. I gather from other threads that symptoms are not generally discussed on these forums. That being said, I’d really appreciate an appraisal of my symptoms. Are arthralgia (or, more specifically, migratory arthralgia) and a sore throat indicative of seroconversion (bear in mind that these symptoms appeared two days ago so other symptoms could conceivably follow)?
4. When would a person infected with HIV ordinarily seroconvert? Does 2 weeks sound about right? Or is the 3-4 week mark more probable? This would really help allay me fears!

Thanks so much for your help guys!

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Re: Feeling anxious...
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 11:25:59 AM »
So, my questions are as follows:

1. How would you assess my level of risk?
2. Am I correct in saying that condoms are not 100% effective but that the risk of infection for intercourse during which a condom is worn is negligible and thus considered ‘no risk’? My point being that if a risk is negligible, there is still technically a risk.
3. I gather from other threads that symptoms are not generally discussed on these forums. That being said, I’d really appreciate an appraisal of my symptoms. Are arthralgia (or, more specifically, migratory arthralgia) and a sore throat indicative of seroconversion (bear in mind that these symptoms appeared two days ago so other symptoms could conceivably follow)?
4. When would a person infected with HIV ordinarily seroconvert? Does 2 weeks sound about right? Or is the 3-4 week mark more probable? This would really help allay me fears!

Capital,

1. You did not have a risk as you used condoms for penetrative sex.

2.  Nothing is 100%, so there is "technically" a risk for many things.  What we do know is that condoms prevent HIV infection, when used properly and consistently.

3.  We do not discuss symptoms as they can have many causes.  Unless you are a doctor, you have no idea if you are experiencing arthralgia or not and even if you are, it means "joint pain" which can have many causes and the disease that it is most associated with is arthritis, not HIV.

4.  The average time to seroconversion is 22 days.  Some folks may take a little longer and that is why the testing guidelines indicate 6 weeks for the first test, with a second confirmatory test at 3 months.

Joe

Offline Capital

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Re: Feeling anxious...
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 12:05:57 PM »
Hi Joe,

Thanks for such a rapid response. I still feel uncertain as to my HIV status but know also that these thoughts are irrational.

I'm considering taking a DUO this evening (after 16 days) in order to allay my fears. Would you recommend that I test?

Thanks again!

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Re: Feeling anxious...
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2014, 12:17:25 PM »
Keeping in mind that you did not have a risk and are only testing for peace of mind I would suggest you wait 12 weeks and test . Any test you do must be confirmed at 12 weeks any way so why go to the trouble and expense of over testing for a no risk incident .

You are over analyzing what you perceive to be a risk . It really is just as simple as this ... an intact condom prevents HIV so as long as you are using them correctly and consistently you will avoid HIV . Forget about that stuff you are worrying over like handling used condoms and becoming infected from secretions and the normal goo of good sex .

If HIV were as easy to get as you seem to think we would all have it ... You did not have a risk so relax and get on with your life .

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Although you did not have a risk and do not need to test for this specific incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!     

 

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Re: Feeling anxious...
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2014, 04:00:48 PM »
Hey guys!

I've had another encounter recently which has left me slightly concerned. I visited a transsexual sex worker about a week ago (whilst inebriated). We had anal sex (I was the bottom), used a condom and neither of us ejaculated. Subsequent to the act itself I quickly peered over myself (I was lying supine) to check that the condom was still in place, I couldn't see as far down as her penis but I did see the condom in her hand, it seemed to have been extracted from her penis rather quickly. My concern is basically whether or not the condom slipped during sex (I was her last punt of the day and she could conceivably have had problems maintaining an erection especially considering that my anus is rather loose). Would I have felt/known if the condom had slipped? Presumably she would have had to reach into my anus and I would have noticed (which I didn't)?

I'm starting to worry because the area surrounding my anus has been itching intermittently for a few days now and I'm worried that I've caught another STD (Gonorrhea, for example) which would presumably mean that her pre-cum made contact with my anus and that I've thus had an HIV risk (although this was my first 'bottom' experience so perhaps my anus just wasn't accustomed to penetration)?

Thanks so, so much for your help guys!

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Re: Feeling anxious...
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2014, 04:17:10 PM »
I would know if someone entered me without a condom on so you are probably just being paranoid but if you are unsure then go test at 6 weeks past any possible exposure and again at 3 months to confirm the results . We were not there and we are not you so how could we possibly know what your risk is .

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

 


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