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Offline Hellraiser

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For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« on: January 14, 2014, 01:36:00 PM »
I present article A into evidence.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8dd_1305213553

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2014, 01:37:15 PM »
Well, great Trey -- should start posting airplane crashes, train crashes and car crashes too?
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2014, 01:38:34 PM »
Well, great Trey -- should start posting airplane crashes, train crashes and car crashes too?

No, the cruise ship doing the Harlem shake works.

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2014, 02:48:17 PM »
I present article A into evidence.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8dd_1305213553

Except that "article A" includes a cruise ship that would serve as a lifeboat on cruise ships today.  Apples to oranges.

Joe

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 04:06:00 PM »
The ships stabilizer system I think must have faulted.The internal video starts with normality then it suddenly goes hay wire . Exactly in a way lesser manner that I have experienced when the Ships stabilizers are retracted in order to safely enter harbour.

Also  the ships rolling seems out off relationship to the amount off swell.

Though I could be completely wrong , perhaps some other more salty salts than me could comment.

I will in the spirit off the thread try and find something about hotels and mass food poisoning .

That Hellraiser he,s a scallywag , all right .
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 04:41:43 PM »
 I'd be more worried about the rampant diarrhea from an outbreak of norovirus  or the pre planned  "activities"  designed to sell you a bunch of crap.

 Cruises  do not sound like a vacation at all.   Cruises always remind me of that movie with all the fat people floating around in chairs.   Or a Walmart  at sea.
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 05:05:48 PM »
I just thought it was funny.  The outside view of the ship rocking was terrifying, but the inside view of people going up and down just made me laugh uncontrollably.  Yes, I am very mean.

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2014, 05:24:42 PM »
I have been on somewhere around 17 cruises (with 3 more already booked) -- I have NEVER experienced anything even remotely close to that.  As others have pointed out, the size of the ships and the stabilizers make that video moot.

Oh -- why is it that the people who say cruises don't seem like a vacation at all, or are only for fat, old people HAVE NEVER BEEN ON ONE?????  While it may not be everyone's cup of tea (what vacation is), I can assure you that it is no longer a vacation for the newlywed or nearly dead.
Oh and to squash one more falsehood -- it isn't all about food either.  You can eat well, but you certainly do not need to overeat.  or overdrink for that matter -- I've been sober throughout my cruising history......  (don't even go there Jeff -- I already hear your comments..   ;) )

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2014, 05:26:11 PM »
 ::)

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2014, 05:27:44 PM »
::)

See -- you are already getting over the post-nicotine crankiness..... 

 :-*

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 05:35:36 PM »
See -- you are already getting over the post-nicotine crankiness..... 

 :-*

M

You know we are talking about cruising at sea and not bushes at the park right ?

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 07:08:48 PM »
I have been on somewhere around 17 cruises (with 3 more already booked) -- I have NEVER experienced anything even remotely close to that.  As others have pointed out, the size of the ships and the stabilizers make that video moot.

Oh -- why is it that the people who say cruises don't seem like a vacation at all, or are only for fat, old people HAVE NEVER BEEN ON ONE?????  While it may not be everyone's cup of tea (what vacation is), I can assure you that it is no longer a vacation for the newlywed or nearly dead.
Oh and to squash one more falsehood -- it isn't all about food either.  You can eat well, but you certainly do not need to overeat.  or overdrink for that matter -- I've been sober throughout my cruising history......  (don't even go there Jeff -- I already hear your comments..   ;) )

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 oh please,  like these floating buffets are anything more than a mode to shuttle fat people from port to port.

I'll take travel hottie  Lee's interpretation on cruises

http://www.leeabbamonte.com/travel-tips/my-thoughts-on-cruises.html
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2014, 07:28:35 PM »
oh please,  like these floating buffets are anything more than a mode to shuttle fat people from port to port.

I'll take travel hottie  Lee's interpretation on cruises

http://www.leeabbamonte.com/travel-tips/my-thoughts-on-cruises.html

I was actually kind of ambivalent toward cruises but jesus that guy makes it sound like he was on the redneck and overweight version of hell.

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2014, 07:31:15 PM »

I'll take travel hottie  Lee's interpretation on cruises

http://www.leeabbamonte.com/travel-tips/my-thoughts-on-cruises.html


From the article:
 
" The monstrosity of a boat was something out of a bad 1970′s movie and the people aboard the bargain boat were nothing short ofÖto be polite-low class."


Sounds like my kind of people !  Can't wait, to go on a gay cruise, so I be be with my fellow low class gays !   :) Maybe even go with some fellow "HI-fivers",  so that we can lower that class level a little more.



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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2014, 07:32:51 PM »
I do not believe Lees story that a woman ate 6 hamburgers for lunch .

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2014, 10:22:10 PM »
First -- he was on Carnival -- you get's what you pay for.

Second -- I'll take my own reviews on cruising over some media hungry malcontent.

Like I said, cruising isn't for everybody (on the sea or in the bushes, Jeffie.....), but I can't let someone who never has taken a cruise speak like he KNOWS it's bad.  Try it, then I'll listen.  Although, do avoid Carnival - I cruised them once, a two-day cruise to nowhere -- it was a LOOONNNGGG 2 days.

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Offline Jeff G

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2014, 10:31:40 PM »
I used to be one of the I will never take a cruise guys but I think with the proper company like the folks of AMG it would be a blast no matter where it was heading .

I also have two friends thats giving me the hard sell on taking a cruise and they have wore me down so its now a matter of time .

And people who refer to others as low class are usually desperately trying to escape something they self identify as in a negative way . 
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 10:35:25 PM by Jeff G »

Offline phildinftlaudy

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2014, 10:37:07 PM »
I've been on two cruises (one Carnival, one Norwegian) - Carnival was to Key West and Cozumel, while Norwegian was to Bahamas....

Enjoyed both of them.

There is so much to do on the ship, if one wants - from lounges/clubs, to restaurants, to shows, to movies, to swimming, jogging, laying out on deck and people watching, the casino, etc.  The food ranges from simple to quite extravagant... Yes, you can eat basically 24 hours a day - should you choose... But, for most there is so much else to do that eating is a "side thing."

The ports of call are great because you usually get to experience a few of them and take in some of the prime sites - so, it is like multiple vacations rolled into one. 

On the Bahamas trip I went parasailing - which was awesome...

They also offer site seeing excusions, diving, jet skiing, etc. (of course, for an extra charge).

I am actually watching for a trip for my mother and me to take in the next few months (after I graduate - so, probably early in May) - may go to Ocho Rios or the Cayman Islands - although, mom wants to go to San Juan... I also wouldn't mind taking one that stops in Roatan Honduras....

At any rate, I thought I would get sea sick on first one - as I was unsure of how my stomach would handle being on the water... but after the first 1/2 hour on board, I was completely comfortable.... Never had to take any motion sickness medicine and couldn't even tell that we were floating.... It's really all about the stabilizers....

Of course, I could see where there might be some swaying if the ship runs into a bad storm - but most do their best to avoid the storms.... We had some thunderstorms on one of the night's of our Cozumel trip - but I didn't notice any unusual or disturbing movement of the ship.

Bocker is right - Carnival tends to draw a bit of a louder, partying type of crowd - and because their prices are lower than the other cruise lines, there are noticeable differences in quality of food, some of the activities, and overall service.

Norwegian was great. Holland America has high ratings. Disney is superb from what I have heard (my friend and his partner have taken many Disney cruises).

Overall, a cruise ship allows one to really pack a lot into a short period of time and at a price that is usually less than what would be paid for a "land-based" vacation to the same locations that are on the ports of call.
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2014, 09:28:38 AM »
I would very much like to take the system off ferries that sail the Norwegian coast during the summer , they are the same in design as what I imagine cruise ships to be.

Also any cruise ship that has alot off wood/Brass/ and open fires in their small Quiet lounges , absence off any gambling , and a series off talks in the evening , a cinema , allows one to take a well behaved dog and provides a area for there comfort . After 2 days a person off course would go missing and the very handsome silver Fox who has Major shares in the line begs me to help him solve the disappearance .Which off course I do , receiving his thanks in a variety off ways.
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2014, 09:55:24 AM »
My parents love cruises -- in fact they are on one right now in the Caribbean. I've gone on two cruises with them, and enjoyed them because it was a trip with my parents. I was fortunate that they were cruises mostly void of young, screaming children because of the time of year and itinerary (one was a cruise of the Baltic, the other was off-season Aegean Sea -- so both had great and frequent ports-of-call and were 10 day cruises).

If I was paying for it I'd probably choose something else for a trip. I don't like being huddled with masses of people particularly, the food while not horrible isn't particularly what I would call compelling -- and that's with us sticking to the formal dining room as much as possible which I highly advise over the buffets. After dinner my parents went to shows every night while I just went back to my cabin and read a book or walked around the ship. I just had no interest in any of that stuff.

I'd rather take the money and book an wine-tasting trip in Tuscany or some part of Spain, frankly. But I think cruises are great once you are over 65 and am glad my parents go on them as it's a safe option for traveling for them, even if it means they are spending my inheritance down to nothing.
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2014, 12:31:45 PM »
Between 600-1000 people got norovirus on a recent Royal Caribbean cruise.  The boat was forced to return to New Jersey.   Let the vomiting and diarrhea commence. 

Positive note, one passenger described it as the best vacation of his life since he lost five pounds.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/29/travel/royal-caribbean-illness/

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2014, 12:51:46 PM »
Between 600-1000 people got norovirus on a recent Royal Caribbean cruise.  The boat was forced to return to New Jersey.   Let the vomiting and diarrhea commence. 

Positive note, one passenger described it as the best vacation of his life since he lost five pounds.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/29/travel/royal-caribbean-illness/



I read about that the other day and thought of you folks here who rave about cruising cruises. Makes me shudder - all I have to do is walk past someone in any stage of having a norovirus (brewing, active or recovering) and I come down with it. It's the scariest thing about winter as far as I'm concerned. (Norovirus loves winter weather conditions)

Damn my sensitive GI system! >:(
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2014, 01:08:30 PM »
*cough*


Besides the last place I want to be is stuck on a floating petri-dish with you people, I can barely stand half of yall. At least on terra-firma i can get away from you and patronize the local bars and get accosted by twinks.

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2014, 02:15:59 PM »
Between 600-1000 people got norovirus on a recent Royal Caribbean cruise.  The boat was forced to return to New Jersey.   Let the vomiting and diarrhea commence. 

Positive note, one passenger described it as the best vacation of his life since he lost five pounds.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/29/travel/royal-caribbean-illness/

Fear mongering -- Norovirus is a risk in ANY enclosed and/or institutional like setting.  It is the cause of about half of all food-borne disease outbreaks - so avoid restaurants.  We just had a local hospital have a major outbreak amongst staff, so let's all avoid going to a hospital.  They happen frequently in dorms - so let's not send anyone to college.  hell - if one person in a family contracts it, it usually races through the whole household, so please avoid going home!!!!   ::)
The news media loves to blow up the cruise ship outbreaks, yet they account for a miniscule number of cases.  Great news copy, but it amounts to nothing more than fear mongering and a sense that you are safe from this illness if you don't go on a cruise.

edited to add:
Read on - http://www.cdc.gov/features/dsnorovirus/

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2014, 02:20:48 PM »
There can never be an AMG cruise . Henry gets sea sick and if he cant go we shouldn't either . Personal opinion of course  ;) .

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2014, 02:21:54 PM »
If AMG is on a cruise, there will be about 5 of us who can afford to go.
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2014, 02:30:35 PM »
I vote Gary Indiana .

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2014, 02:34:21 PM »
I remain a fan of Pocatello, being the outdoors enthusiast that I am known to be.
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2014, 02:44:19 PM »
I remain a fan of Pocatello, being the outdoors enthusiast that I am known to be.

I just tried to post the same thing, but it timed out on me.
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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2014, 08:12:18 PM »
I remain a fan of Pocatello, being the outdoors enthusiast that I am known to be.

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Re: For those of you suggesting a cruise for an AMG...
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2014, 05:57:04 AM »
I worked on the QE2 for 5yrs. and hit many storms on transAtlantic crossings.
Being designed specifically for transAtlantic crossings, as opposed to todays ships designed for 'island hopping', stuff does still fly.
On one occasion we came within 5 degrees of capsizing. Deck furniture washed overboard, broken china and glass throughout galleys and dining rooms, interior furniture, pianos etc. stacked to the ceiling.
Stop lunch service, break out the beers, as for dinner, fingers crossedÖÖ
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