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Offline mo

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« on: October 29, 2006, 06:04:38 PM »
Hello, I'm sorry if someone already asked the same question.
7 days ago, I visited a mature "massuese". She massaged me laying down naked and she had her clothes on. During this time, she repeatedly rubbed my back, between my crack, my anus and  my genitals with massage oil. Finally, she masterbated my penis for about 1-2 minutes (I was not wearing any condom, and she did not wear any glove) and I ejaculated (No oral, anal or intercouse). I touched her legs and buttocks. I do not know whether she had any cuts, sore on her hands when she masterbated my penis. 3 days after the massage, I had irritated anus and lasted about 3 days. Sometimes I had "funny" feeling in abdominal, in which I often hear gurgling or belching, but I think this is due to high stress and anxiety.
1) I am wondering if the touching was dangerous especially around the anal area and my genital and if you would reccomend getting an HIV test.

2) Assume that 90% chance that the massuese had a wound/sore on her hand, should I be concerned about HIV infection when she masturbated my penis and when I ejaculated?

Thank you for your time.

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Re: Please share your opinions.
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2006, 06:22:19 PM »
Mo, there was absolutely no risk during this incident relative to HIV. None whatsoever.

Perhaps the oil she used irritated your anus. It still has nothing to to with HIV. HIV is transmitted in very specific ways and being masturbated in any manner is not one of them. If you haven't already done so then you should read the lesson about transmission. There's a link to it in the Welcome thread in this section.

Being masturbated is not in anyway a risk for HIV.

If you have physical symptoms which are concerning you those should be discussed with your doctor.

Cheers,
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Re: Please share your opinions.
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2006, 07:02:29 PM »
Hi,
Thank you so much for your response, Andy.
But I'm very concerned that what if she had an open cut on her hand and can HIV transmitted from her cut to my ureth when I ejaculated. Thanks again.

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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2006, 07:08:33 PM »
Mo,

Hiv is simply NOT transmitted in this manner. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. You did NOT have an hiv risk by ANY stretch of the imagination.
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Re: Please share your opinions.
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2006, 07:23:32 PM »
As a former professional bodyworker (masseur, the male form) I can assure that no one in the profession, no one who offers a straight forward non-sexual massage or someone who offers a sexual massage/component, works with open wounds.  The bacteria on anyone's skin would be rubbed in causing major stinging.  Second, as a former information specialist for the National Aids Hotline, I also confirm what the moderators have said: skin to skin contact cannot transmit hiv.  If you take a further step back, if she doesn't have hiv, she cannot transmit hiv, so only if she were hiv positive would this question come up and that has been answered.  You may have eaten something which disagreed with your internal system (given the symptoms) or are suffering stress from not understanding transmission.  Anything is possible with your anus, including your not cleaning it thoroughly enough and hence irritating the area.  Win
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2006, 01:54:16 PM »
Hello,
About 5 days, I posted a question regarding about hiv transmission from a handjob from a sex worker. Last night, I discovered a swollen lymph node on my back about 4" from the armpit and this morning the node is already shrinking/disappear. Is this ARS? It has been been 10days since I got the handjob. Thanks.

Offline RapidRod

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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2006, 02:02:08 PM »
Now go see a doctor. You have never been exposed and this has nothing to do with HIV.

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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2006, 02:08:18 PM »
Excuse my ignorance. can a lymph node appear on the back? or is it that lymph nodes everywhere throughout the body? and how long does it take for a lymph nodes to shrink or disappear?

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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2006, 02:09:53 PM »
I've never seen a lymph node and not sure what I had last night is a lymph node. Thanks in advance for your elaboration.

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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2006, 02:11:12 PM »
If you are poking them. Usually will clear up quickly. Non-medical personnel can not usually diagnosis a swollen lymph node only a physician can.

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2006, 03:49:40 PM »
I'm very scare that I might have contracted hiv and should I wait until the 12th week to get a blood test? or should I get tested earlier?

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2006, 03:58:10 PM »
If you want to test go test. You didn't have a risk to begin with. All this worrying you are doing, you are doing it to yourself. What will you do if you really have a risk?

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2006, 10:41:52 AM »
Hi again,
Last night I had "i'm not sure whether they're swollen lymph nodes or rash" around my wrist on my left arm, and they're gone this morning. How long does it take swollen lymph nodes to become disappear? I saw 2 red dot on my wrist about 1 inch apart, eventually, they enlarged and connected and became swollen about the size of the base of a Crystal Gyeser water bottle. Can someone tell me what's happening. Thanks.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2006, 10:42:53 AM »
I forgot to mention that, the night before, I had one swollen "again, not sure whether lymph node or rash" on my back, and disappear in the morning as well. This is freaking me out.

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Re: Please share your opinions.
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2006, 10:58:14 AM »
You need to discuss your concerns about swollen lymph nodes with your doctor. We can't diagnose or resolve the causes of that problem here.

What we can tell you in confidence is that you were not at risk for HIV in the incident which originally brought you here. And that is not going to change no matter what swellings and other symptoms you may come up with.

This is NOT and HIV situation. Period.
Andy Velez

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2006, 09:44:46 AM »
Hello. Please excuse my ignorance. It has been 15 days since the incident.  I understand that having symptoms or no symptoms has nothing to do with hiv infection. On the 14th day,  I had night sweats (very little) and another night sweats the following night. I slept about 4-5 hours a night, and keep waking in the middle of the night, back to sleep for another 1-2 hours and waking up again.  Also, I frequent numbness in my feet and hands. I've never experience anthing like this in my life, and this really bother me. Should I go for an hiv test? and how does Oraquick works?
Thank you so much.

Offline RapidRod

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2006, 10:15:08 AM »
There is no need to test as you have been previously told. You did not have a risk. Your symptoms are unrelated to HIV. See your doctor if they persist.

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2006, 12:29:26 PM »
mo,

Every single symptom you report can be a result of stress. If the problems persist, see your doctor. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv as you have not had a risk.

Ann
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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2006, 04:57:21 PM »
Hello,
I'm so sorry that I keep repeating myself and being paranoia, but I've been very stressing and so much anxiety regarding the incident.

10/23- got a massage (the massuer masterbated my penis and I ejaculated).
10/26- diarrhea 1 time (but irritated anus for about 3 days) & abdominal gurling/belching for about 4 days
10-26- hoarseness voice (no sore throat) for about 8 days (come and go)--- having a flu?
10/30- 1 more diarrhea and constipate
11/1- not sure if they were swollen lymph nodes or rash, but they were gone in overnight, different location in 2 nights. (1 on the back. 1 on the arm nearby a bee stung that I got about 5 days ago).. but small pimple like on my back here and there and very itchy and gone in about 1-2 hrs.
11/2- cold sore on the lip and lasted about 10 days (gone as of today)
11/6-7 - mild night sweats (but I talked with my family members, everyone was sweating that 2 nights, possibly because of weather)-- but feet and hand numbnes and tingling
11/8-9 - diarrhea again, I think this is because of the diet...because the diarrhea is gone when I stop eating those foods.
11/5-8 - dry throat, hoarseness voice (alike 10/26): no fever or fatigue
11/12- night sweat again, not soaking or drenching my sleepwear or sheet.

I'm so depress right now and afraid that I might have contracted hiv. Thanks for your supports.



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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2006, 06:37:16 PM »
mo,

Every single symptom you report can be a result of stress. If the problems persist, see your doctor. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv as you have not had a risk.

Ann
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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2006, 12:41:41 PM »
Hi,
Please excuse my broken English. I met a woman online and we became friend and I do not know her health status.  We french kiss, I licked her nipples, and also fingered her. She was very wet and she touched her vagina and she masterbated my penis  until I ejaculate (Not sure whether or not her hand was dry at the time). We did not have any oral, anal or vagina sex. I had diarrhea and flu symptoms 2 days later.
I'm afraid that when I touched her vagina and then touched her nipples and there might have been vagina fluids on her nipples.
Is this an hiv situation and should I be tested? Afraid that she might have vagina fluids on her hand when she masterbated me. Thanks.

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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2006, 12:49:25 PM »
Toc,

Can I ask why you are using different usernames while posting to our forums? Thus far, you have also used mo

Please realize that this kind of activity is disrespectful of other forum members, as well as our moderators. People spend a considerable amount of time helping others in these forums. Using multiple accounts is at the very least annoying, if not deceiving and disrespectful of others. It is also against our Terms of Membership which you agreed to when you became a member. This information is also contained within the Welcome Thread, which you should have read by now. So really, you have no excuse.

You must realize that the answers won't change, no matter how many names you post under.

I would appreciate a reply to this message, and I hope you will commit to using just one account - preferably your original one. If not, you will be banned from further access to the forums.

Ann
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Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2006, 12:59:52 PM »
Hello,
I'm so sorry that I forgot my password, so I created a new account and asked this question for a friend. Is it ok from him to create a new account?  Can you please forward to my original post.

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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2006, 01:20:52 PM »
mo/Toc,

I've merged your two threads.

Sorry, if you forgot your password, then go through the procedure provided to find it out and go back to your mo account. I'm going to disable your new account. If you want to continue to post here, then request a password reminder when you go to log in as mo. This time, write your password down somewhere and keep it safe.

If you were asking a question for a friend, why didn't you say so? Please excuse my cynicism, but I'm having a hard time believing you. I've seen too many people with strange excuses in the past I guess.

Your friend can create his own account at another computer. If he does not have access to another computer and has to use yours, you'd have to be there anyway so he can use your existing account. Can't say fairer than that.

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Nothing he did with the online woman was a risk for hiv infection. Kissing, nipple licking and being masturbated - even after she touched herself - none of those activities are risks for hiv. 

Have him read through the Welome Thread and the Transmission Lesson that is linked to in the Welcome.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2006, 10:12:18 PM »
hello mods,

Quick question regarding my massage incident. Until today, I still have those small red spot, pimple like (rash possible?) which appear on my back, sometimes on my chest, arm, and leg. Only 1 or 2 per day, usually appear in the evening and disappear in about 30 minutes. Is this ARS? How does HIV rash like? I'm so worry. Thank you.

Also, I've experienced on and off diarrhea as well as flu like symptoms. Gone for about 2 wks and have those symptoms again.

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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2006, 04:47:24 AM »
Whatever your symptoms are is unrelated to HIV. You didn't have a risk and have been told by all the replies that you have already been given. See your doctor for your concerns, they are unrelated to HIV.

 


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