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Author Topic: Oraquick in-home question? (anxious about a false negative)  (Read 2702 times)

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Offline dr_funkestein

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Oraquick in-home question? (anxious about a false negative)
« on: September 11, 2014, 10:33:43 AM »
Hey everyone

I took the oraquick in home test last week. My last protected sexual exposure was in January (protected sex with escort and unprotected oral), in the mean time, i have not had sex (oral or intercourse) at all. I have masturbated / body rubbing with two girls (fingerring and myself) but absolutely no sex whatsoever.

The first time i took the in home test, i was negative. However, i started reading about how the test should not be stored above 80 degrees for 3hrs +. Since it was shipped to my house earlier in the day (on a decently hot day) I don't know how long it remained outside ( my mom assures me it was less than 1-2hr and that she picked it up a little after UPS dropped it off) Because of this, i decided to purchase another one and take the test again. This time i took it in my car (no driving) left it in the flat surfaced of my seat, swabbed once in my upper and lower gums, and had the a/c on to ensure it was cool. That test came up negative as well.

I am freaking out a bit because I've been reading stories about the false negatives that have appeared with the test. The lady in the oraquick center said many false negatives are due to the fact people eat in the 30 minute window prior to taking the test, or they take the test in the 3 month window. Other people from the oraquick call center said they cannot accept my test result from my car because it wasn't done "in home." However, when I ask what difference would it have made (taking the test in the seat of my car where the kit is not tilting or moving at all vs. a table in my house) they never give me any specific answers and just default to "that's not how our clinical trials were preformed"

Since i took the test post 7 monhts (almost 8 months) can i trust the results? (again i've just had body rubbing and mutual masturbation but no oral or vaginal intercouse at all since my encounter in January) could these activities cause false negative?

Also, do you guys think the fact i took the test in my car might have enough of an impact to give me a false negative? should i re-test again?

Does anyone have experience with these tests, i feel like i am being over-paranoid but with all these results, why would they let this be FDA approved?

Thanks for your responses!

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Re: Oraquick in-home question? (anxious about a false negative)
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2014, 12:32:59 PM »
You never had a risk and have tested negative, repeatedly . You do not have HIV .

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI.Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Although you did not have a risk and do not need to test for this specific incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!


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Re: Oraquick in-home question? (anxious about a false negative)
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 02:10:53 PM »
Thanks for the response.

Do you think there is a need to re-test or getting a blood test done since I preformed the test in my car?

I followed all directions, the only difference is i took my test in my car whereas the "instruction video" they use shows the person taking int the home. Oraquick said my results are "not valid" since i took it in my car. However, when i asked why that would make a difference to my results, they just respond with "that's now how our test was ran in our trials" So my worry is that by taking this test in my car, it altered my results and gave me a false negative.

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Re: Oraquick in-home question? (anxious about a false negative)
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2014, 02:17:33 PM »
The major factor is you never had a risk . If you wish to test for peace of mind let a professional do it since you don't trust yourself . If this is your only concern you have not had a risk to test for .

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Re: Oraquick in-home question? (anxious about a false negative)
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2014, 03:59:36 PM »
I trust myself i did the test right, what worries me is the fact oraquick doesn't want to explain how my test is invalid if i did it in my car, without moving, within the specified temperature range, vs. me doing it in my room inside my house. That also drives my worry of getting tested again and being anxious over a positive result because maybe inside my car vs inside my house could have a difference.

I figured since i did this test 7 months after i last had the exposure, i figure'd i could be at peace of mind. Isn't the reason the FDA approved this product was so that people could know their status after the correct window period?

Lastly, isn't there still risk with protection? The CDC says although condoms are highly effective they are not 100%. It also lists exchanging sex for money as a "risk event" as well as attaching a low risk to oral.

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Re: Oraquick in-home question? (anxious about a false negative)
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2014, 04:43:49 PM »
If the condom is intact there was not a risk . Condoms do sometimes fail and that is where the its 100 % effective comes from . If the condom failed you would have known it because that is the way there are designed, so when they do fail they leave no doubt . An intact condom means no HIV .

The average time to seroconversion is 22 days. Most who are infected will test positive by 6 weeks. For various reasons a small number will take longer and that is why we follow the CDC recommendation to test at 3 months for a conclusive negative result. You have tested way beyond what is required so your choices are to trust the results or go get a professional to do the test ... it will be negative . 


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