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Multiple exposures - Risk?
« on: December 16, 2013, 02:46:20 PM »

Back story here, i'll keep it short:

1. Straight male.
2. 18 seperate CSW encounters this year, no sexual encounters prior to this.
3. Unprotected oral, Protected insertion
4. Tested Neg in 2009 (VISA application)
5. Last exposure 5 weeks ago, made a concious decision to stop (going overboard, lol), did a STI urine test and got reminded about HIV testing.

I freaked the hell out! Never crossed my mind as I assumed I was always protected. He basically said anything to do with CSWs = high risk. Declined due to non-animosity. But I definitely went home and read up about it.

That was a week ago and now I have been spending every waking hour on the computer and sleeping horribly. The last two days I developed an awful strained feeling in the back of my neck at the base of the neck (right side). Headaches and dizzness as well. Read a thread here on seroconversion symptoms and neck stiffness and stuff came up. Pretty much convinced myself I have meningitis. And how I never had it before and of all times why now? Can someone enlighten me on the whole ARS situation and about meningitis in general? Could well be a simple strain and cerviconegic issue given my spine issues and shitty posture hunched infront of the computer researching. But that has never happened before, but so has the sheer amount of anxiety I have experienced this past few days. Don't have a fever or anything.

Also, typically after the protected intercourse, the condom would be removed and oral sex/masturbation would commence. I'm pretty sure there were fluids on the uncovered parts of my lower shaft and also some transmission from the condom. IS this risk? I always make a concious effort to clean off any "excess" if present, but the picture in my mind is clusterfuck of lube, sweat and vaginal fluids, churning together during the oral/handjob, which then happily infects me anyway. Please enlighten me on this situation if it sounds unique or something that happens all the time and is normally unspoken or without specific mention because I haven't found a thread fussing about this issue!

Lastly, most posts here reflect single exposures and are given risks as such. I don't read much on repeated exposures hence my fear.

Hoping for good news and hopefully nothing else.

edit: if the urine test comes back clear of STIs (clap, chlamydia,  trich), would this be indicative of any reduction in risk?

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Re: Multiple exposures - Risk?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 03:02:49 PM »
Hi Tex . I read your concerns carefully, all of them . You did not have a risk and no risk stays the same no matter how many times you have sex .

The risk factors for HIV are unprotected anal and vaginal sex . You need not worry about HIV if you are using condoms consistently and correctly, and you were or you would have noticed because condoms are designed to leave no doubt when defective . 

We do not discuss symptoms or ARS because they are not specific to HIV and is a guessing game to discuss them . The only way to ever know your HIV status is to test .

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME for this incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than HIV. Some of the other STDs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid HIV infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: Multiple exposures - Risk?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 03:12:50 PM »

Thanks for your response. Seriously thanks for the fast response. I respect your opinion in not discussing ARS symptoms, but the lack of comfort regarding that really kills me!

Can I rephrase the question regarding my fluid transmission concern? Is this the same situation as when posters talk about exposures such as MSM semen contact with the urethra, mutual mastubation with fluids, frottage etc. Or is it of an even lower risk?

Another thing about "correct" condom usage. What are your though about expose shaft skin near the base? Or about the "rolling" of the condom along with the foreskin/shaft skin without actual slippage

Should I want to test, what test would you recommend at 5 weeks post exposure? Will combo testing be conclusive?

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Re: Multiple exposures - Risk?
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2013, 03:32:11 PM »
As long as the condom is protecting the tip of your penis you are protected in this circumstance . HIV is a fragile hard to transmit virus that is INSTANTLY damaged when exposed to slight temperature and PH changes out side the human body , its damaged and rendered unable to infect .

In order for a transmission to occur your penis must make contact with the mucosa near the cervix , the other fluids a woman makes when excited isn't infectious . Simply put, HIV is NOT transmitted in the manner you are concerned with, if it was then we would all be doomed to being a world full of HIV positive people .

If you cant accept that you did not have a risk then go test 6 weeks past any possible exposure and again at 3 months and then you will know you were told the truth .

Again , HIV is hard to transmit and you need not worry about dragging it out of vaginas or making a frothy concoction of infectious fluids . If HIV was that infectious you would have to fuck with a space suit on .       

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Re: Multiple exposures - Risk?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 12:16:31 PM »
On reasons which I myself experienced when I posted on this forum, which was the eerie unnerving nature of threads dying off without the OP reporting back on their findings, I have returned to update my situation.

I did a duo-test when my symptoms were at full force, at 5.5 weeks with a combo antigen/antibody test. It came back non-reactive. The infectious disease specialist deemed it conclusive and that I did not warrant further testing (although I pre-paid for a full STD panel which includes another antibody test at 3 months, might as well). STD panel thus far is clear and I expect the remaining to be the same.

My neck and vision is still fucked but I have a MRI scheduled for Monday. I actually took a nasty football to the head 2 weeks before my neck problems but I forgot all about it due my anxiety until the doctor brought delayed whiplash issues up. I'd rather have a cervical disc bulge then HIV anyway.

Thanks for the education Jeff!

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Re: Multiple exposures - Risk?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 01:21:19 PM »
You are welcome . You didn't have risk so your negative test result is no surprise . You are HIV negative .


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