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Author Topic: Window period ( 3 months vs. Aussie 6weeks??)  (Read 3486 times)

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Window period ( 3 months vs. Aussie 6weeks??)
« on: October 26, 2006, 04:29:24 PM »
Shalom all,

I have been reading these forums for the last(almost five months)...since my possible exposure. Anyway I wish to get my daft question outta the way. Okay, I was tested at 5 1/2 weeks and I was a big "negatoid"<---got that term from Shawn Deckers book which is brilliant btw! Big ups Shawn. Back to my story..then I was tested again by Orasure/Oraquik finger prick 20 minute test. Another negative result. Now the super kind bloke who just happened to be gay and also had a scare like mine was sympathetic as well as super kewl and kind told me this was a defenitive/conclusive result. Not sure why I mentioned the gay bit. Maybe because I'm not. Anywho...Dr. Bob that ultra kewl guy from the body.com also said I was way in the clear. My question is in ur lots opinion is my 16 week and two day Orasure 20 minute FDA approved negative result defenitive???
 Next, I am sooo thankful for the people who post on here. I have learned soooo much. I came to accept whateva result that might have been in the cards for me. I especially like the remarks Matthew(the matthew with his own pic next to his posts), and Andy who  makes  the new blokes feel comfy whilst posting. I admit I have been very ignorant of HIV education all these years. I also think it took a real scare to sort me out (even though my exposure was low risk)--->me giving said skank oral. I reckon it took me 33 years to finally get educated. I just want to say between this site and thebody.com I have been touched to the core by this awful affliction. I am currently a third year Law Student at Northwestern University and am now considering going into medicine. I wish to make a difference. I have told my story of a real scare to the young adults at my synagogue in the hope other males and females don't party too hard one night and end up infected. I hope it is okay for me to stop in and say hello every now and then. G-d bless!
Oh vote Barak Obama for prez.
Cheers & Shalom,
Jacob
« Last Edit: October 26, 2006, 06:19:06 PM by KosherDemocrat18 »
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Re: Still a wee bit worried....but better.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2006, 04:40:03 PM »
Jacob,

I'm not sure if you're asking, but you are conclusively hiv negative and it's time for you to get on with your life.

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL STIs together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with a sexually transmitted infection.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

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Re: Still a wee bit worried....but better.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2006, 04:47:53 PM »
thanx for the reply, however I wasn't aware that I wasn't gettin on with it. Everyone should find something worth fighting for perhaps this is a cause I can get behind. I know there are many, many people who come on here scared and worried and I'm sure my bloody scare is nothing compared to the people who truely are poz. I just wanted to say thanx thats all. Be well.
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Re: Still a wee bit worried....but better.
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2006, 05:02:37 PM »
Jacob,

OK then, guess you just wanted to say thank you. Your post was rather difficult to decipher.

You're welcome.

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

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HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2006, 10:29:16 AM »
;D Hallo all! Just a quick couple questions. I posted a couple weeks ago with my long story. Doing better now actually. This is my question: The Aussies are or have implemented a new window period as far as timing goes. I've read the docs down under believe the window period is 6 weeks not three months. So what I don't get is why 3 months or even 6 months as the CDC says. A certain Dr. Bob on another website say the 6 month CDC timeline is bollocks. And the 3 month is really stretching it a bit. So I tested negative by ELISA at 5 1/2 weeks and then at 16 1/2 weeks by Orasure/Oraquick finger prick test. I think our doctors in England are rather keen on changing the window period to 6 weeks as well. What do you guys think or better yet why is there even a 6 month testing date. I was told by two people as well as countless docs that my 16 1/2 week negatoid test was conclusive/definitive. I just don't fancy all these bloody dates. If anyone might be able to explain I'd appreciate it. Cheers/G-d bless!
Jacob
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Re: Window period ( 3 months vs. Aussie 6weeks??)
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2006, 10:34:39 AM »
Jacob, I can foresee that eventually a widely accepted six week testing point will come to be because of improved quality of testing.

Six months is long outmoded even by the CDC with the exception of cases involving IV drug use or severely depleted immune systems.

Until everyone is on the same playing field universally with regard to the tests being used we're sticking with the 13 weeks which the CDC has advocated for sometime.

All but the very smallest number of those who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after an exposure to the HIV virus.

For now we will continue to recommend sticking with 13 weeks as the testing point at which you can get a definitive answer.

Cheers, 
Andy Velez

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Re: Window period ( 3 months vs. Aussie 6weeks??)
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2006, 11:15:29 AM »
So Andy you'd say a (unprotected male to female oral act-low risk) Or, for that matter any oral sexual act is conclusive/definitive with a (4 month=16 week and two day) FDA approved Orasure finger prick result. Again thanxs for explaining the window timing to me mate.
All the best,
Jacob

PS- So mthe people or the few that do seroconvert close to the three month timing are those that are IV drug users or "occupational risks"---> ie. a physician who gets infected via a needle puncture? Or are these people so few now that there are not any real statistics for people seroconverting around or outside the standard 3 month time?
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Re: Window period ( 3 months vs. Aussie 6weeks??)
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2006, 11:54:00 AM »
Jacob,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep all your additional thoughts or questions in one thread.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.

Getting a blowjob isn't low risk, it is no risk at all.

The window period is three months no matter what the act - as long as there was actually a risk. The only exceptions would be in the rare person who has a severely compromised immune system due to chemotherapy for cancer, anti-rejection drugs following organ transplant or someone who has been injecting street drugs every day for years. Even people who fit that criteria will more than likely seroconvert by the end of the three month period.

The occupational needle stick only changes the window period if the person goes on PEP (post exposure prophylaxis) and that causes the window period to start the day after the PEP is discontinued. It's still a three month window period, it just starts a little later.

I agree with Andy - I also expect the official window period to be dropped to six weeks within the next few years.

Ann
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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

 


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