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Needle-less injections
« on: November 07, 2013, 05:21:46 PM »
I was injecting a medication with a new syringe through a saline lock iv. As I was trying to attach the syringe to the saline lock, it slipped and scraped/rubbed against my finger. I wasn't wearing gloves. I did not have any bleeding and I couldn't see any blood in the saline lock. If there was a small amount of blood I couldn't see and it got on the syringe, am I at risk? Or would it have to be an injection with a needle to be a risk?

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Re: Needle-less injections
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 05:33:39 PM »
I was injecting a medication with a new syringe through a saline lock iv. As I was trying to attach the syringe to the saline lock, it slipped and scraped/rubbed against my finger. I wasn't wearing gloves. I did not have any bleeding and I couldn't see any blood in the saline lock. If there was a small amount of blood I couldn't see and it got on the syringe, am I at risk? Or would it have to be an injection with a needle to be a risk?

You didn't have a risk in this situation . Sharing IV drug equipment is a risk when the blood of a HIV positive person is injected into a HIV negative person .

That did not happen in the situation you describe so therefor you did not have a risk for HIV and do not need to test over this specific incident .

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Re: Needle-less injections
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 06:15:30 PM »
I didn't see any cuts on my finger, but if there was that I couldn't see, would it still not be a risk? Thank you

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Re: Needle-less injections
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2013, 06:35:00 PM »
It would not have been a risk . You were pushing fluids and not drawing them , that and the fact that it was through a saline lock and you did not stick yourself makes it not a risk .

Scratching yourself would not be a risk if it did bleed ... so you can relax and put this fear to rest . 

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Re: Needle-less injections
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2013, 10:22:40 PM »
Ok. I started to get scared because I have intermittent pain under my arms, in my groin, and behind my left knee. But those are my only symptoms? I
Are those symptoms ARS?

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Re: Needle-less injections
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 10:53:14 PM »
Ok. I started to get scared because I have intermittent pain under my arms, in my groin, and behind my left knee. But those are my only symptoms? I
Are those symptoms ARS?

There ARE no symptoms unique to ARS. ARS is the condition whereupon a body begins to create antibodies to an identified pathogenic intruder. They range from none at all to hospitalization with high fever.

We do not, by and large, discuss symptoms here due to that fact.

As you were already informed, you did not have a risk.
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Re: Needle-less injections
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2013, 02:46:00 AM »
Yes, I know that an HIV test is the only way to know if you are infected. I was just wanting to know if the "symptoms" I was having was ARS. I just keep
thinking of the what if's. Like what if there was blood in the saline lock and it got on the syringe and I had a scratch or superficial cut. Would that be a risk. Basically trying to understand transmission better because the CDC states you can get HIV from blood on chapped hands, etc. Fear causes anxiety and I think not knowing how things work leads to more fear. I know that is transmitted through unprotected sex, mother to child, and needle sharing, but what about occupational exposures? I just don't want to infect my husband.

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Re: Needle-less injections
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2013, 05:43:09 AM »
You never had an exposure.

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Re: Needle-less injections
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2013, 07:08:36 AM »
Free,

You did NOT have a risk in the incident you describe.

Like what if there was blood in the saline lock and it got on the syringe and I had a scratch or superficial cut. Would that be a risk.

NO. Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.

Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Also, hiv can only infect a very few, very specific type of cells and these cells are not found on the surface of the skin nor are they found in scratches and superficial cuts.

These two reasons combine to give you, in this particular incident, NO RISK.

Basically trying to understand transmission better because the CDC states you can get HIV from blood on chapped hands, etc.

The CDC says a lot of things about hiv transmission that are WRONG. For example, they claim kissing is a risk. Kissing is NOT a risk. Neither is getting blood on chapped hands*. If you want to know why they insist on fostering hysteria about hiv transmission routes, you'll have to ask them. I wish I knew. They make the job of hiv educators much more difficult than it has to be.

*If you come across (for example) a car accident victim who has sustained an abdominal injury and their belly is gaping open and bleeding profusely, and you stick your hands INSIDE this person and you have a deep cut on your hand, then you might have reason to worry about hiv. Otherwise, no.

It sounds like you're a nurse. If so, you need to ask your employers for a refresher hiv awareness course.

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