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Offline Matty the Damned

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So things have not gone well.
« on: October 25, 2006, 12:58:39 PM »
It's been a week or so since I logged in here.

/insert bitchy aside/

But to work. I just responded to a PM from Andy Velez so before my arse is banned on a permanent basis I have to report some stuff to my friends here.

Because let's face it, like Andy earns his wage or Ann his self respect (coz let's face it . . . ), I respond to your emails and PM's. ;)

RESULTS FOR MATTY THE DAMNED

September 2006
CD4 Absolute: 133
CD% 12
VL > 500,000

October 2006
CD4 Absolute: 15
CD% 5
VL > they stopped counting

I restarted HAART last week. I'm taking Atazanavir, Ritonavir, 3TC, AZT and Abacavir. Also I take Bactrim, Fluconazole, lamotrigine, valproate, maxalon and endless amounts of stuff. I take 22 pills a day. Which is a quite a challenge.

Even for a no good cocksucker like me.

Today they threatened me with hospital. I resisted. I'm riddled with thrush from arsehole to breakfast time and I can't keep anything down. I''ve got vision issues in me left eye. I mean don't get me wrong, you can all whine about shit but until it happens you got no idea.

And who would of thunk it? I had a couple of epileptic seizures this weeeeeeek.

Except for Andy and Ann. They know Tim Yawn and he's been to a Conference. You should be grateful to these people.

Really, you should.

.... oh I had stuff to say here but I feel too ill. It was witty and clever.

MtD
(Who will stay logged in until he isn't)
« Last Edit: October 25, 2006, 01:00:38 PM by matty.the.damned »

Offline Dachshund

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2006, 01:23:41 PM »
I have missed you my friend and think of you daily. I had an uneasy feeling things were not going well with you. I wish I didn't feel so powerless...sometimes there is no sanctuary. I am sending you my email address. I cherish your friendship... remember, you can never be barred from my heart.

Love,
Hal

Offline Jerry71

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2006, 01:24:33 PM »
Matty hope your numbers improve and you get to feeling better again. :-*

Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2006, 01:41:23 PM »
"What Jerry Said!"  .... You're one tough cookie Matty baby  :-*

Offline Teresa

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2006, 01:58:28 PM »
Matty,

I hate to hear that you are not well. I think about you often and I keep you in my prayers. Im praying that all those meds you are taking will do the trick and you will be back to your own "evil" self soon. I miss you!

Big Hugs
Teresa
Hubby HIV+ 5/5/06
CD4:320
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 VL: <20
Atripla (started it 8/24/06)
 

Offline LatinAlexander

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2006, 02:03:14 PM »
Evil never dies....But the heck, he suffers....

Please Matty, would you  mind be an asshole? (But one with good numbers?)

TAKE CARE, I AM THINKING OF YOU!!!!

Alex

Poz since Jul 19 2006
Initial numbers : CD4-250 VL 3500
First labs after HAART (Dec 04-2006) : CD4-432 VL-<40 (Undetectable)  cd4%=25.11%
Started HAART: Combivir+Efavirenz Aug 26 7:38 pm
Feb 08 2007 - Gradually stopping HAART cause of Myalgia. Protecting Efavirenz. Stopped Efavirenz, ahead with Combivir....
February 17 Combivir stopped.
April 3 -07 : Started ddi+3tc+efavirenz...
Gay and positive (What a lack of Identity...:) )
Looking for my Ben....

Offline pozguy75

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2006, 02:11:23 PM »
My Darling...you know where I am in cyber space...as do I know where you are! You maybe half way around the world from me, but you are next to me in my heart! I know that sounds a bit emotional, but I for one love the damned!!

You are strong and my light when I am at my darkest...I hope that I may be of some use for you too!!

I love you...

Jeromy
(Whose tears are being held back because he is at work!) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Dx 2005
ATRIPLA

Offline JohnOso

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2006, 02:18:01 PM »
Thinking of you too.

It can turn around.  I started with my CD4's @ 2%.

Plus, I can only aspire to be as dashingly grizzled and crusty as you are  ;) 

John
(who knows being grizzled and crusty can work wonders)

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2006, 02:20:18 PM »
Well say something, you useless dickwads. Check my profile, you'll find my skype addy, my yahoo name and all of that shit.

Don't tell me the the beige people have taken our forums!

MtD

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2006, 02:28:29 PM »
yes sir!!! I will call on you tonight!
Dx 2005
ATRIPLA

Offline otherplaces

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2006, 02:40:13 PM »

Matty,

Sorry it's gotten so rough.  You're the toughest.  I have no doubt you'll beat all this.

love,
brian

Offline Dachshund

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2006, 03:00:02 PM »
Well say something, you useless dickwads. Check my profile, you'll find my skype addy, my yahoo name and all of that shit.

Don't tell me the the beige people have taken our forums!

MtD


"LITTLE BOXES"

Little boxes on the hill side, little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes, little boxes, little boxes all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one and a blue one and a yellow one,
And they're all made out of ticky tacky, and they all look just the same.

And the people in the houses all went to university
Where they were put in boxes, little boxes, all the same.
And there's doctors and there's lawyers, and there's business executives
And they're all made out of ticky tacky and they all look just the same.

And they all play on the golf course and drink their martini dry
And they all have pretty children and the children go to school
And the children go to summer camp and then to university
Where they all get put in boxes and they all come out the same

And the boys go into business and marry and raise a family
In boxes, little boxes, little boxes all the same.
There's a green one and a pink one and and a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made ot of ticky tacky and they all look just the same.

Offline Life

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2006, 04:24:47 PM »
Matty, I hope you get better soon..

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2006, 05:03:21 PM »
See here's the thing. With the exception of the above (not all of whom I care for nor even understand), you all love that which Matty the Damned has to say.

Until the MoFo says it to you. So you're gonna love this.  :-*

The first people I'd like to address are the gutless spivs who send me private messages telling me how fucking great my views are. Well, frankly your support means a whole lot of fuck all. If you think you're earning MtD approval points, you're not.

Rather than giggling vicariously through my mordent wit like some school girl deprived of her knickers why don't you dip shit losers actually learn to speak for yourselves?

I know how good I am, I don't require external validation.

Nevertheless I'm speaking to a (and I use the term loosely) largely  American audience. Over the 25 years that I've been an AIDSMEDS member (really it seems longer) I've come to understand a lot about ignorance.

So let's be ignorant, shall we? Really, it's the emergent fashion in this place of late and far be it from Matty the Damned to resist such things.

Let's ignore the fact that Jonathan stopped posting in Living With and restricted himself to answering the questions of Worried Wells in the Other Place before all of this became to much.

Let's ignore the fact that original, good members of AIDSMEDS like Lisbeth, Bucko, Newnick, Nancy and a fuckin' litany of others simply stopped posting at all. How many times have we heard members call plaintively about the fate of Skeeter, to no avail? I wouldn't respond if I was him, either.

Let's ignore the fact Goderator Ann stopped being one of us and has long since started serving the masters of Smart+Strong. And if you think I'm being a prick about this then you either weren't here when she convened the most vicious flame war against Red Ronnie because he dared to question the status-quo, or you just didn't give a shit. But of course Ann was just an undercover moderator in those days, she lacked the balls and and is an apologist for the poz.com hegemony which bores us all to death these days.

Do tell Ann, where did Jazz end and you begin?

Let's ignore the fact people like Hal, Rapid Rod, Rich et al can be timed out for having a full and frank exchange of views on whatever issue simply because it upsets light-weight wannbees such as Eric. Or even you Alex. It strikes Matty the Damned as passing strange that these people can be booted, yet tiresome bores such as KYHeteroman and his equally tedious husband Trish are allowed to carry on with impunity.

Let's ignore the fact that Cliff and others of his conservative ilk are permitted to started blatant fuckin' flame wars with no consequence. And don't tell me how many times I've been warned about my appalling behaviour before the Powers That Be were forced do something. I know how dreadful I am.

I have to live with myself.

But Matty the Damned is not above reproach himself. He prides himself on being honest, true and down the line yet he's allowed this crap to continue to nary a comment. I confess. I've been a willing dupe of Mother Staley the Meth Maiden of Manhattan (she of a thousand ghastly posters in one hundred public toilets) Goderator Ann, Velez,  and the Other One and I have the emails and the PM's to prove it whilst they provaricated over endless issues.

Hell, I even participated in some tacky farce that Ann and Andy concocted during the take over because Staley was slow in offering Velez a new contract. You guys must be hyucking it up over that one.

So save me the love and the hugs. It's not gonna do any good. What would do us all some good if the supposed members in this place actually spoke out when something gave them the shits, and I'm not talking about Kaletra. I don't buy this "we don't need to create a ruckus" thing for a moment.

Please, be the grand fucking activists you claim to be. Speak your minds.

If you can find one. I believe Joe Killfoile has one free at the moment.

Matty the Damned
(Who thinks Eric has more to worry about than Matty's health)

/edited for typos given the quality of the audience/
« Last Edit: October 25, 2006, 06:35:39 PM by matty.the.damned »

Offline poet

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2006, 05:20:53 PM »
Matty.  Your post reminds me of the 1980's, the anger, the health reality, etc.  Since I am new to the forums, I haven't followed your career online, but it is, strange to say if you didn't live through those years, great to hear the voice of those years again.  And it's not, please understand everyone, that I think we don't deserve the progress which the pharmacies have produced, the cocktail(s), etc.  But lost in our current situation is the very, very real situation of people like Matty, who try medications, fail at medications, deal with side effects, don't see the claims met and yet take the time and energy to remind us, lest we forget, that they are still with us and, hopefully, will continue to be with us and to voice their opinions.
Winthrop Smith has published three collections of poetry: Ghetto: From The First Five; The Weigh-In: Collected Poems; Skin Check: New York Poems.  The last was published in December 2006.  He has a work-in-progress underway titled Starting Positions.

Offline Lis

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2006, 05:52:37 PM »
Matty....

don't you dare stop... I so want you to find comfort and peace .. stay on the meds.. let them work.. give it a chance!!

I wish i could do SOMETHING for you!!!!

lisbeth
poz 1986....

Offline Life

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2006, 06:00:52 PM »
Matty thanks for spelling my name right..

Offline Matty the Damned

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2006, 06:08:47 PM »
Yeah, your finger must sore from clicking the rat button.

MtD

Offline Lis

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2006, 06:14:11 PM »
matty... i feel there is ALOT more that you want to say to the breakfast club!!!

kisses!!!!!!
poz 1986....

Offline MSPspud

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2006, 06:19:33 PM »
Tee hee, good rant...  Now stop your goddamn bitching and start taking those meds.

Jason (who likes beige, but...)

Offline Iggy

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2006, 06:21:59 PM »
Matty,

I'm not gonna give you a pep talk and tell you to get better or that all will be alright. 

Life sucks worse than I ever feared and I'm living the high life compared to the shit you gotta go through right now.

What I find amazing is that the person on this board considered so heartless by many (including yourself) was the one who tried to talk me from the ledge.  I can't help but give a damn about you.


Offline kcmetroman

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2006, 06:22:32 PM »
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« Last Edit: October 25, 2006, 08:47:14 PM by kcmetroman »

Offline Lis

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2006, 06:25:45 PM »
Hey john... seek help NOW!!!! what about the kiddies?!!!!!!!
poz 1986....

Offline kcmetroman

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2006, 06:30:45 PM »
Is that a threat Lis?

Offline Lis

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2006, 06:39:39 PM »
no you need prozac...and a counselor
poz 1986....

Offline kcmetroman

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2006, 06:43:57 PM »
Now that was clever! ;D

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2006, 06:48:59 PM »
Edited, just because

 :-*
« Last Edit: October 25, 2006, 08:36:31 PM by Trish »
"People grow through experience if they meet life honestly and courageously. This is how character is buit."  Eleanor Roosevelt

Offline Lis

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2006, 06:55:45 PM »
trish, trish trish.....

your a JOKE!!!!
poz 1986....

Offline emeraldize

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2006, 06:57:10 PM »
*
« Last Edit: October 31, 2006, 09:14:29 PM by emeraldize »

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2006, 07:07:47 PM »
Emeraldize,
Thank you for that...
Paul
infected 10/05 diagnosed 12-05
2/06   379/57000                    6/07 372/30500 25%   4/09 640/U/32% 
5/06   ?? /37000                     8/07 491/55000/24%    9/09 913/U/39%
8/06   349/9500 25%              11/07 515/68000/24     2/10 845/U/38%
9/06   507/16,000 30% !          2/08  516/116k/22%    7/10 906/80/39%
12/06 398/29000 26%             Start Atripla 3/08
3/07   402/80,000 29%            4/08  485/undet!/27
4/07   507/35,000 25%            7/08 625/UD/34%
                                                 11/08 684/U/36%

Offline Moffie65

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2006, 07:12:24 PM »
Trish and John from Kansas City, and anyone else who might just fit into the catagory of "tasteless self engrandizement".

You just might be witnessing the demise, Death Progression, of one of the most respected members of this site and forums.  He is struggling for the very life that he now is living.

What oh what good can come from your hateful and tasteless comments, who if you were present by his bedside, you would never make?

I am lost for words.

You two definately need to find another place to spread your very hateful shit!
The Bible contains 6 admonishments to homosexuals,
and 362 to heterosexuals.
This doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals,
It's just that they need more supervision.
Lynn Lavne

Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2006, 07:20:52 PM »
This gets filed under "R" for Ranting is part of the healing process. Everyone knows bottling things up inside sucks. Good health is what we all want

The first people I'd like to address are the gutless spivs who send me private messages telling me how fucking great my views are. Well, frankly your support means a whole lot of fuck all. If you think you're earning MtD approval points, you're not.

The term for that is SYCOPHANTS .... Now everybody run to dictionary.com!! (you know you're doing it!!!) .... Good thing Matty is able to recognize the sycophants for the insincere weaklings they are. Poor, poor sycophants. They would be LOST if Matty suddenly triumphed over all obstacles.  ... All the sycophants need to stop sending PM's to Matty. They're not helping his health and he has made himself crystal clear.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2006, 07:29:40 PM »
deleted... because.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2006, 08:37:16 PM by Trish »
"People grow through experience if they meet life honestly and courageously. This is how character is buit."  Eleanor Roosevelt

Offline Lis

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2006, 07:34:16 PM »
Husband? I'm sorry that that part of your life taught you NO empathy for others!! you must be proud!!!
poz 1986....

Offline Grinch

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2006, 07:35:39 PM »
Matty,

  I hope you take the meds and I hope you get better.  I might not agree with you very often but I sure as hell respect the fact that you speak your mind.

  Ever since the "Clique / inner circle" wars I've pretty much given up on opening my mouth here. So I can take a bit of the blame for your complaints but it just wasn't worth it anymore.

Get well.  I'd love the chance to have a drink with you one day.

   

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2006, 08:02:00 PM »
Matty, , sorry to hear things are not going well for you . please take the meds and get better. Cristy

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2006, 08:24:41 PM »
Thinking of you, Matty.
You know the deal and we'll catch up away from here.

Trish, you old scrag, and your manpussy, John. Be true to your word and F off like you said you would.
Be forgiving, be grateful, be optimistic

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2006, 08:38:43 PM »
Dang, Matty hasn't even started to stink yet and the vultures have swooped from their perch on the Gateway Arch to pick at his flesh.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2006, 08:41:43 PM »
My apologies...

Do what you need to do Matty

and

Take care.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2006, 08:47:23 PM »
Maybe this may too come off as meaningless to you, Matty....I do hope the best for you from the bottom of my heart.  I hope you start feeling better..
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #40 on: October 25, 2006, 08:47:40 PM »
I do wish you the best Matty

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2006, 08:50:55 PM »
Trish and John,
That crap just doesn't cut the mustard. You do it, time and time again. Just go. Find somewhere else to spread your bile and spite.
Be forgiving, be grateful, be optimistic

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2006, 08:51:53 PM »
Only now do I understand the American attachment to the Second Amendment. It allows them to shoot the silly prick who uses the First. ;)

-boom tish- ;D

MtD
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #43 on: October 25, 2006, 08:54:28 PM »
God Bless America.
"I married a German. Every night I dress up as Poland and he invades me. "
-Bette Midler

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #44 on: October 25, 2006, 09:33:11 PM »
Matty my ticket is booked...and boy are we going to have something to talk about... ;)

Hugs
Jan :-*
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #45 on: October 25, 2006, 09:41:34 PM »
See you tomorrow hon!  :-*
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Offline Eldon

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #46 on: October 25, 2006, 10:34:32 PM »
Hello Matty,


The most important thing right now is for YOU to focus on YOU.



Offline cubbybear

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #47 on: October 25, 2006, 11:59:39 PM »
This sucks, you guys (matty, stevie, melia) are only an hour plane flight away and I can't get my arse their.. yet.  Get the fuck better matty, I will get up there when I can $ it.
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Offline Biggums

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #48 on: October 26, 2006, 12:58:42 AM »
Matty you honery ass you.  Get your ass up here in November and watch election night coverage with me.  lol  Seriously, do what the hell is in your heart.  It's your life.  Just have fun doing it ......and reading your posts above, you are.  Hang in there you freaking Aussie and remember, us up north here are getting cold and you're getting warmer!
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Offline Queen Tokelove

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #49 on: October 26, 2006, 04:44:34 AM »
Although,I have not been here long, I have come to enjoy reading MtD's post. I don't know much about him, but I have to respect him for very blunt point of views. As far as whatever the beef is, I really don't care, I think what we should be doing is combining our energies and sending them his way instead of arguing.


I hope you feel better soon..... :-*
Started Atripla/Ziagen on 9/13/07.
10/31/07 CD4-265 VL- undetectable
2/6/08 CD4- 401 VL- undetectable
5/7/08 CD4- 705 VL- undetectable
6/4/08 CD4- 775 VL- undetectable
8/6/08 CD4- 805 VL- undetectable
11/13/08 CD4- 774 VL--undetectable
2/4/09  CD4- 484  VL- 18,000 (2 months off meds)
3/3/09---Starting Back on Meds---
4/27/09 CD4- 664 VL-- undetectable
6/17/09 CD4- 438 VL- 439
8/09 CD4- 404 VL- 1,600
01-22-10-- CD4- 525 VL- 59,000
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Offline Angel-Ronnie

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #50 on: October 26, 2006, 05:02:31 AM »
Sky of diamonds


Running over planes of gold fields
Thru rivers and streams
From all corners of the world
From north to south,
East to west
But still we are all the same

Living in a diverse world
Filled with corruption
Divided by our own greed
Societies are but no different
From my world nor from yours

Living thousands of miles apart
But we look all the same
From within
Our cultures and color
Might be different on the outside
But how different are we
Be it in spirit

The world is the same
The skies are the same
People are the same
To me the sky is diamonds



I am new to this site and just being diagnosed a few months ago still comming to terms with myself and with hiv. Still reading some of these threads makes me wonder if it is worth even looking for advise and courage from those who have been living with hiv longer than I have imagined?
Bide the Wiccan law ye must,
In perfect love and perfect trust
Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill
An' ye harm none, do what ye will.

What ye send forth comes back to thee,
so ever mind the Law of three,
follow this with mind and heart,
Merry ye meet, and merry ye part.

Offline skeebo1969

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #51 on: October 26, 2006, 12:29:39 PM »


    Matty,


        Skeeter here...  Just wanted to say I hope things get better for you and you are in my thoughts...


    Thomas
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Offline Christine

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #52 on: October 26, 2006, 01:25:50 PM »
Not having had a good year myself, two things I try to convince myself of are:

a. It's not over, until it's over;

b. and Tommorow is another day.

Corny, stupid sayings. But at this point, there isn't much for me to hang on to. Hang on to those Matty.

Christine
Poz since '93. Currently on Procrit, Azithromax, Pentamidine, Valcyte, Levothyroxine, Zoloft, Epzicom, Prezista, Viread, Norvir, and GS-9137 study drug. As needed: Trazodone, Atavan, Diflucan, Zofran, Hydrocodone, Octreotide

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Offline David_CA

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #53 on: October 26, 2006, 01:26:51 PM »
It's amazing what one can miss in a couple of days on this forum.  Deleted and edited posts always make me wonder... I really hate to miss out on things!

Matty, I do hope you get better.  I know I've never PM'ed you and praised your wit.  Actually, I think you come across as a prick often times, but that doesn't mean that your meaning is lost or that what you've said isn't funny.  Remember, there is a difference between cutting off one's nose and biting one's tongue.

Now, take your meds and get better.  We sure can use some wit and humor around here.   ;)

David
Black Friday 03-03-2006
03-23-06 CD4 359 @27.4% VL 75,938
06-01-06 CD4 462 @24.3% VL > 100,000
08-15-06 CD4 388 @22.8% VL >  "
10-21-06 CD4 285 @21.9% VL >  "
  Atripla started 12-01-2006
01-08-07 CD4 429 @26.8% VL 1872!
05-08-07 CD4 478 @28.1% VL 740
08-03-07 CD4 509 @31.8% VL 370
11-06-07 CD4 570 @30.0% VL 140
02-21-08 CD4 648 @32.4% VL 600
05-19-08 CD4 695 @33.1% VL < 48 undetectable!
08-21-08 CD4 725 @34.5%
11-11-08 CD4 672 @39.5%
02-11-09 CD4 773 @36.8%
05-11-09 CD4 615 @36.2%
08-19-09 CD4 770 @38.5%
11-19-09 CD4 944 @33.7%
02-17-10 CD4 678 @39.9%  
06-03-10 CD4 768 @34.9%
09-21-10 CD4 685 @40.3%
01-10-11 CD4 908 @36.3%
05-23-11 CD4 846 @36.8% VL 80
02-13-12 CD4 911 @41.4% VL<20
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Offline DancerBoy

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #54 on: October 26, 2006, 01:56:26 PM »
trish, trish trish.....

your a JOKE!!!!
Lis-
Your shows ownership.   I think what you might be trying to say is "You're  a joke." As in you are.  Just saying.
Kisses,
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Offline Jerry71

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2006, 02:42:48 PM »
Matty you just stay healthy and keep taking those damn meds and don't let people on here get to you. You the man and have always been there for me. :-* I just hope you get better. And as far as the editing goes on here it is just a shame we all can not get along and be friends or a family.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #56 on: October 26, 2006, 02:53:41 PM »
Lis-
Your shows ownership.   I think what you might be trying to say is "You're  a joke." As in you are.  Just saying.
Kisses,
-D

Lord, give it a rest.  This is tired.  Whatever happened to being a bigger person?

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #57 on: October 26, 2006, 04:18:31 PM »
I was simply pointing out an error.  I would hope she'd do the same for me. 
Boys are Stupid

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #58 on: October 26, 2006, 04:38:00 PM »
 ::)

Offline Queen Tokelove

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2006, 02:36:07 AM »
 As in I dunno what the hell is going on ???
Started Atripla/Ziagen on 9/13/07.
10/31/07 CD4-265 VL- undetectable
2/6/08 CD4- 401 VL- undetectable
5/7/08 CD4- 705 VL- undetectable
6/4/08 CD4- 775 VL- undetectable
8/6/08 CD4- 805 VL- undetectable
11/13/08 CD4- 774 VL--undetectable
2/4/09  CD4- 484  VL- 18,000 (2 months off meds)
3/3/09---Starting Back on Meds---
4/27/09 CD4- 664 VL-- undetectable
6/17/09 CD4- 438 VL- 439
8/09 CD4- 404 VL- 1,600
01-22-10-- CD4- 525 VL- 59,000
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Offline kcmetroman

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #60 on: October 31, 2006, 01:53:02 PM »
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Deleted and edited posts always make me wonder

David,  I have beaten myself up over deleting my post and honestly, I can't leave this place in such a cowardly fashion.  My post said "I am glad that you find my posts as tedious as I find yours.  For god's sake please save the third person rant for your drones."  You saw what ensued.


What I truly should have said was that I found this and the ensuing thread to help Matty name his CD4's as a slap in the face to not only those of us living with this disease, but to those who have passed.  To come in here and insult people then grandstand it with naming his CD4's only proves that he is an angry person.  His life and how he handles it is his decision.  I hate to hear of anyone letting themselves get in the predicament he has, but it was his decision.

Now I can leave here in good conscience.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #61 on: October 31, 2006, 02:58:27 PM »
David,  I have beaten myself up over deleting my post and honestly, I can't leave this place in such a cowardly fashion.  My post said "I am glad that you find my posts as tedious as I find yours.  For god's sake please save the third person rant for your drones."  You saw what ensued.


What I truly should have said was that I found this and the ensuing thread to help Matty name his CD4's as a slap in the face to not only those of us living with this disease, but to those who have passed.  To come in here and insult people then grandstand it with naming his CD4's only proves that he is an angry person.  His life and how he handles it is his decision.  I hate to hear of anyone letting themselves get in the predicament he has, but it was his decision.

Now I can leave here in good conscience.


Gee KY, and I thought we were having a moment. What changed? It was me, wasn't it?

Still you're right. I am a bad person. Dissin' all you good, compliant AIDS Victims with my nasty disruptive ways. You should see the terrible things I do on World AIDS Day! Wearing denialist t-shirts to memorial services and wiping my arse on the Memorial Quilt are but two.

Fondles,

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Offline Queen Tokelove

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #62 on: October 31, 2006, 05:26:33 PM »
 ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D   I love it....
Started Atripla/Ziagen on 9/13/07.
10/31/07 CD4-265 VL- undetectable
2/6/08 CD4- 401 VL- undetectable
5/7/08 CD4- 705 VL- undetectable
6/4/08 CD4- 775 VL- undetectable
8/6/08 CD4- 805 VL- undetectable
11/13/08 CD4- 774 VL--undetectable
2/4/09  CD4- 484  VL- 18,000 (2 months off meds)
3/3/09---Starting Back on Meds---
4/27/09 CD4- 664 VL-- undetectable
6/17/09 CD4- 438 VL- 439
8/09 CD4- 404 VL- 1,600
01-22-10-- CD4- 525 VL- 59,000
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Offline fearless

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #63 on: October 31, 2006, 05:29:37 PM »
KY.


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Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #64 on: October 31, 2006, 05:37:47 PM »
To come in here and insult people then grandstand it with naming his CD4's only proves that he is an angry person. 

so just press the ignore button if he or anyone else irks you that much. simple dimple.

Offline Lis

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #65 on: October 31, 2006, 06:43:50 PM »
why do you KY act as if you just on accident acquired this disease... 1 year ago you were unsure about it.. now all the sudden you are an expert.. not only on HIV, but how we all should feel!  you go to 1 support group and now your the Dali Lama of AIDS>>> step  off sweet pea... you got your hooker to make dinner for your kids... but you cant fool the rest of us!!
poz 1986....

Offline RobT

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #66 on: November 01, 2006, 12:15:34 AM »
Matty-
Who cares what the others have to say. All that matters is YOU. GET URSELF BETTER. TAKE UR MEDS, WHATEVER, GET WELL!!!
U were the 1st one whom I turned to when I initially got on this site. I know that u do not take shit from any1. Who really cares what others think?

RobT

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Offline Andy Velez

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #67 on: November 01, 2006, 09:55:59 AM »
Dear All,

Lis has been given a two day time out.

Support each other but please, do it without slicing and dicing others.

Her comments addressed at Trish and John are not acceptable.

 
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Offline Just John

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #68 on: November 01, 2006, 06:31:01 PM »
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Her comments addressed at Trish and John are not acceptable.

And Trish and Kc's comments were?? ??? :(
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Offline Trish

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #69 on: November 01, 2006, 07:15:48 PM »
If you noticed John, I apologized and deleted mine. 

Also, my comment wasn't as nasty as Lis'.  She hit way below the belt.

I was wrong, and the least I could do was admit it.

Good day.
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Offline Joe K

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #70 on: November 01, 2006, 07:25:14 PM »
Why don't we just ask Matty to kick off so the insensitive fools here can keep hijacking his thread.  Some of you people show an appalling lack of empathy or even compassion for one of our own.  One of our dearest members is facing the loss of his life and yet some of you see nothing wrong with just abusing this post.

If that is what you consider support, then please find another forum.  And to John and Trish, I am sorry but editing your posts will never remove their intent.  I have been reading this post from the start and I know what you said and to see that you have now removed those "hateful remarks" just shows how lacking you both are in terms of character.  If you intend to sling mud, the least you can do is accept your ownership and changing your comments, depending upon how well or poorly they are received is the act of cowards.

If you insist on spewing insensitive remarks, at least have the backbone to leave your "pearls" for all to see.  But you cannot do that, because then your duplicity would be exposed, as if anyone has missed it by now.

Sorry Matty, but something tells me you will forgive me my transgression.
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Offline David_CA

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #71 on: November 01, 2006, 09:08:59 PM »
Joe, please go back and read post 13 from MtD himself.  I'd say he hijacked his own post.  If not hijacked it, certainly turned what had previously been a supportive thread into this odd tirade against a lot of members.

Nevertheless I'm speaking to a (and I use the term loosely) largely  American audience. Over the 25 years that I've been an AIDSMEDS member (really it seems longer) I've come to understand a lot about ignorance. 

Let's ignore the fact people like Hal, Rapid Rod, Rich et al can be timed out for having a full and frank exchange of views on whatever issue simply because it upsets light-weight wannbees such as Eric. Or even you Alex. It strikes Matty the Damned as passing strange that these people can be booted, yet tiresome bores such as KYHeteroman and his equally tedious husband Trish are allowed to carry on with impunity.

Matty the Damned
(Who thinks Eric has more to worry about than Matty's health)
/edited for typos given the quality of the audience/


So now we Americans are ignorant.  Who jumped on Eric and Alex?  Who brought Trish and John into this in the first place?

I know you're concerned about Matty (as are most of us) and upset that people are not as supportive as they would be in an normal circumstances.  There's only a certain amount of shit people will take before they say to hell with him.  Maybe that's the point; I sure don't know.  If it were me, I'd be scared shitless and who knows how I'd act.  I can only hope that I won't snap at those who offer some sort of support.

Matty is not the only one at fault here; as far as I know, he hasn't been given a time-out.  Just keep the whole situation in perspective.

David
Black Friday 03-03-2006
03-23-06 CD4 359 @27.4% VL 75,938
06-01-06 CD4 462 @24.3% VL > 100,000
08-15-06 CD4 388 @22.8% VL >  "
10-21-06 CD4 285 @21.9% VL >  "
  Atripla started 12-01-2006
01-08-07 CD4 429 @26.8% VL 1872!
05-08-07 CD4 478 @28.1% VL 740
08-03-07 CD4 509 @31.8% VL 370
11-06-07 CD4 570 @30.0% VL 140
02-21-08 CD4 648 @32.4% VL 600
05-19-08 CD4 695 @33.1% VL < 48 undetectable!
08-21-08 CD4 725 @34.5%
11-11-08 CD4 672 @39.5%
02-11-09 CD4 773 @36.8%
05-11-09 CD4 615 @36.2%
08-19-09 CD4 770 @38.5%
11-19-09 CD4 944 @33.7%
02-17-10 CD4 678 @39.9%  
06-03-10 CD4 768 @34.9%
09-21-10 CD4 685 @40.3%
01-10-11 CD4 908 @36.3%
05-23-11 CD4 846 @36.8% VL 80
02-13-12 CD4 911 @41.4% VL<20
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Offline kcmetroman

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #72 on: November 01, 2006, 10:09:38 PM »
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I have been reading this post from the start and I know what you said and to see that you have now removed those "hateful remarks" just shows how lacking you both are in terms of character

Joe, I was going to bow out, but I couldn't help but respond to your dipshit remark.  Read the above, Mr.  "EDITED BECAUSE WHY BOTHER"

If you want, I will fill this fucking page with proof of your hypocrisy and show everyone who you really are.  If you REALLY read here you would note that I re-typed my comments.  Somehow I don't think that was on your mind. 

BTW - Matty didn't deny a word I said.  Perhaps more people should speak what they feel here.



Offline Iggy

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #73 on: November 01, 2006, 10:11:42 PM »
Matty,

Like I said previously, you were there for me when I needed it and I hope you can appreciate that I want to do the same in return.

I just don't know how, or what else to do, than to let you know this.

Iggy

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #74 on: November 01, 2006, 10:24:17 PM »
David,

I understand your sentiments, but I don't think one can hijack his own post.  I am not defending what Matty said, but I am confronting the insensitivity shown in this and other posts.  Surely you cannot defend correcting someone's use of language in such a post.  I am just tired of this insensitivy being shown by certain members, who are not held accountable for thier actions, while others who commit similiar offenses are timed-out.  Yet it keeps happening and I have to wonder why, but not today.

John,

I absolutely defy you to carry out your impossible threat of showing me as a hypocrite.  I will wait for that post, but not holding my breath, because it can not be done.  At least when I stick my foot in my mouth, I leave it there for all to see.  And surely you are not suggesting that either yours or Trishs' edited posts in that thread, were what you initially posted.  Why are you so unable to take responsbility for your actions?  With you two it seems to be all about smoke and mirrors.

But I have contributed to the hijack of this thread and for that I apologize.  I will not comment about this again in this thread.

Offline Longislander

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #75 on: November 02, 2006, 12:05:09 AM »
 I am just tired of this insensitivy being shown by certain members, who are not held accountable for thier actions, ...

This is not directed at you personally Kill (didn't catch your name before I hit reply).

I'm going to walk right out to the edge of this limb here..

I don't know what went on between Lis, John, and Trish, and I really don't care to know. That's apparantly a matter between them.

But as far as insensitivity goes, Matty is probably one of the worst offenders here. In many posts he has insulted more than one member personally, for no real reason, while at the same time being his witty little self. I (and I'm sure a few others here, especially the newer members) cannot possibly imagine how he has become known as one of the most respected members here.

This is my opinion, and is not an attack on any other members feelings about Matty.

I wish him well because he is another human being on this planet, and a member of this forum. Certainly not out of respect for him as a person.

Paul
infected 10/05 diagnosed 12-05
2/06   379/57000                    6/07 372/30500 25%   4/09 640/U/32% 
5/06   ?? /37000                     8/07 491/55000/24%    9/09 913/U/39%
8/06   349/9500 25%              11/07 515/68000/24     2/10 845/U/38%
9/06   507/16,000 30% !          2/08  516/116k/22%    7/10 906/80/39%
12/06 398/29000 26%             Start Atripla 3/08
3/07   402/80,000 29%            4/08  485/undet!/27
4/07   507/35,000 25%            7/08 625/UD/34%
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Offline joyluckclub

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #76 on: November 02, 2006, 12:31:16 AM »
I, too, am relatively new to this forum.  I was diagnosed in July.  Matty, I appreciate the supportive words you have offered me.

I'll be thinking of you in the coming days.  Take care of yourself.
"Honey, be who you is"  Madea.........

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #77 on: November 02, 2006, 12:38:11 AM »
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I am just tired of this insensitivy being shown by certain members, who are not held accountable for thier actions, while others who commit similiar offenses are timed-out.  Yet it keeps happening and I have to wonder why, but not today.
I wondered that myself, but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it Joe.

Offline Moffie65

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #78 on: November 02, 2006, 08:22:55 AM »
  When you live in reaction, you give your power away.  Then you get to experience what/who you gave your power to.

N. Smith
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and 362 to heterosexuals.
This doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals,
It's just that they need more supervision.
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Offline Andy Velez

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #79 on: November 02, 2006, 10:11:07 AM »
Dear All,

Others have been given time outs before this. They aren't usually announced in the way I did about the one for Lis. And I did that specifically in the hope of it serving as a warning to halt the sniping.

The intention was to prevent more of  the kind of increasingly venomous exchanges such as John and Killfoile have now added to this thread. Guys, it's very clear and it has been for a long while how you feel about each other. Disagreements are one thing. Back and forth attacks are quite another.

Stop for a moment and think. Is there anything that benefits you or anyone who comes to these pages by more of the same? I think not. What these exchanges come across as are an unwillingness to let the other "win" by having the last word. As far as I am concerned it's a lose-lose situation when you get into this, for all concerned including other members.

So guys, give it a rest, and yes, consider this a warning.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #80 on: November 02, 2006, 10:37:36 AM »
Just another episode of  the The Young and Infected
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #81 on: November 02, 2006, 11:55:59 AM »
I am just tired of this insensitivy being shown by certain members, who are not held accountable for thier actions, ...

This is not directed at you personally Kill (didn't catch your name before I hit reply).

I'm going to walk right out to the edge of this limb here..

I don't know what went on between Lis, John, and Trish, and I really don't care to know. That's apparantly a matter between them.

But as far as insensitivity goes, Matty is probably one of the worst offenders here. In many posts he has insulted more than one member personally, for no real reason, while at the same time being his witty little self. I (and I'm sure a few others here, especially the newer members) cannot possibly imagine how he has become known as one of the most respected members here.

This is my opinion, and is not an attack on any other members feelings about Matty.

I wish him well because he is another human being on this planet, and a member of this forum. Certainly not out of respect for him as a person.

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Matty's insensitivty on these forums, since I've been a member, are what make it hard for me to show empathy toward him.  How does one respect another when they consistently throw vile comments aimed specifically at hurting others?  He's done it more times than anyone and I too cannot fathom how he has become one of the most respected members on these forums.  ???

There was time when I admired Matty, but I just can't seem to bring myself to that place again.  I've watched him time & time again hurt others purposely and I just can't respect that, really I cannot.

I also find his little episode of naming his CD4's a disgrace.  Humorous?  Sorry, not in my eyes.  And I truly don't understand those who obiged his sick display of disrespect to all those who have succumbed to AIDS, as well as US, who are struggling to live with it now.  I just don't get it.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #82 on: November 02, 2006, 12:16:35 PM »
My brother had 2 tumors in his head last year. One in his brain and one behind his left sinus. He named them. I don't think he was showing any disrespect to cancer patients living or who had died from cancer. It was one way he was dealing with his cancer, with a little humor.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #83 on: November 02, 2006, 01:06:08 PM »
My brother had 2 tumors in his head last year. One in his brain and one behind his left sinus. He named them. I don't think he was showing any disrespect to cancer patients living or who had died from cancer. It was one way he was dealing with his cancer, with a little humor.

Teresa


Bingo...what Teresa said. What I don't get is why some people keep returning to rehash the topic of Matty.The.Damned. Truth be told, I think it is just a bad case of the green-eyed monsters.

I have seen Aidsmeds members wish other members dead, call each other every name in the book, threaten to quit the forums, threaten suicide, threaten to reveal private pm's, you name we have seen and done it.

Get your hearts off your thin-skinned sleeves people...scratch the surface and we all are pretty much coming from the same place...quilt,pain,drug addiction,alcoholism,sex addiction,self-esteem issues,medical issues,homophobia,racism,sexism,topped with a big ol' dollop of anger on what I like to call a HIV sundae that is certainly topped with lots of nuts.

Why people make what someone types all about them is beyond me. The emotional posting of a forum member (even if they use your name) really has nothing to do with or about you. Though I guess if something stings a bit personally it might have a modicum of truth to it. Frankly, I think the release of the rage that many of us feel is at times actually quite healthy...and forum members should be excused for it. Or at least understood. We can post all the methods we want for finding happiness but if you can't release the anger, that Hallmark moment ain't going anywhere.

So relax... bottom line what anyone posts really ain't about you, no matter how much we would like it to be. One more thing...gallows humor is a major coping device when dealing with death...always has been, always will be.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #84 on: November 02, 2006, 01:45:57 PM »
I've watched him time & time again hurt others purposely and I just can't respect that, really I cannot.

If you don't want to respect a "whole person", you can isolate aspects of a person and respect those aspects. Matty is open about his health. He doesn't paint a false picture of himself as a healthy superman and I respect honesty. (He's also shared many of his life experiences with different medicines for various conditions) 

Consider this: I have a friend-- a messy, acerbic, abrasive bitchqueen by any measure - But when he was 15 years old he saved a drowning toddler who fell into a swimming pool. He said diving into that pool was automatic without hesitation and the rush to action was clear and came from within. I had nothing but respect for that. You don't have to respect someone 100 PERCENT, but you should know that "little seeds" of truth often grow into that beautiful word we call respect. Finding the little seeds takes effort,and if you really truly can't be bothered, simply press the ignore button. I prefer finding the little seeds instead of the ignore button.

As far as comments and reacting, read what Moffie and Dachshund said. Anyone can say anything to me or about me. I know who I am.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #85 on: November 02, 2006, 01:48:20 PM »
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Matty's insensitivty on these forums, since I've been a member, are what make it hard for me to show empathy toward him.  How does one respect another when they consistently throw vile comments aimed specifically at hurting others?  He's done it more times than anyone and I too cannot fathom how he has become one of the most respected members on these forums.  

There was time when I admired Matty, but I just can't seem to bring myself to that place again.  I've watched him time & time again hurt others purposely and I just can't respect that, really I cannot.

Trish I need to ask that if all that is true - then what has been your point of multiple posts on this thread?  I have no issue with anyone who doesn't like Matty, but I seriously see no point of you particiapting in a thread by Matty, about Matty and for Matty, if that is your take.

Just put him and others you do not like on ignore.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #86 on: November 02, 2006, 02:14:02 PM »
He brought my name up in his post #13... so I reacted to it.  I should have stayed out of it, but I didn't.  However, I will ignore him from now on.  You are right Iggy.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #87 on: November 02, 2006, 03:26:38 PM »
I've got to say Hal is absolutely spot on with what he said above.  Secondly does anyone actually know how Matty is doing at the moment? this post seems to have gone off topic slightly!
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #88 on: November 02, 2006, 04:43:24 PM »
Hal is one wise man.

Chris,
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #89 on: November 02, 2006, 08:40:19 PM »
Matty's still around, he just has to see a lot of doctors at the moment and so is away for days at a time. I'll have more results sometime next week. Given that I've restarted HAART (about two weeks back now) they should be interesting.

Did this thread go off topic? Not really. There are two themes here. My really bad AIDS numbers at the moment and my growing sense of irritation with the what I consider to be the appalling way in which the moderators administer these forums.

And I mean all the moderators. Ann, Velez, Staley and the Other One. And before people go getting all het up and scrambling over the barricades to condemn me for dissin' the powers that be I'm just saying what I think. Andy Velez has often encouraged me in to "vent and rant" in the past. In fact I've often noticed him advise people to "post and be damned".

Betcha not runnin' that line quite so much these days, eh Andy?

For those who've been around AIDSMEDS for a while will be familiar with my particular style. I've never claimed to be an especially compassionate or sympathetic person. I have limited reserves of empathy and you've gotta be pretty special before I'm gonna gush and carry on and hold your sweaty little hand.

Frankly I couldn't give a rat's arse about most of you. There are of course a select core of people here for whom I care deeply and would do anything. But they know who they are.

Similarly, I've never asked for compassion or sympathy in return. I just tell you how things are, what I'm doing and why I'm doing it. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I don't require external validation. My purposes and reasons for posting are my own and most likely the result of narcissistic personality disorder.

But ya know, whatever. ;)

So Iggy and company are right. If you don't like me, what I say or how I say it -- then whack the ignore button. Or do like Eric and frantically click the "Rat this post out the Goderators" button. If it's that bad, why bother reading the damn thread at all?

I mean, like I pointed out to someone once before, even Internet Explorer has a back button.

But none of you will, especially not my detractors. You love me. The little frisson of outraged joy you get when I post is soooooo addictive. Go on, admit it. When you see my name next to a post you all pee in your pants, just a little bit. Threads like these are what AIDSMEDS have always been about. The opportunity to get down and pull hair.

You know it makes sense.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #90 on: November 02, 2006, 09:05:47 PM »
Oh you let Satan my friend, push that little fork up to far this time.  ;) Hell you aren't even enjoying it. All I care is, that you take care of yourself and continue to be you. I still love you my Ozzie friend.


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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #91 on: November 02, 2006, 09:13:57 PM »
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And I truly don't understand those who obiged his sick display of disrespect to all those who have succumbed to AIDS, as well as US, who are struggling to live with it now.  I just don't get it.

Perhaps if you (maybe, I don't know your recreational status) and KY laid off the pot, all the while claiming to be morally superior for the 'kids', you'd understand.  Gee KY, when are you gonna tell your kids you are a pot-head?  That's really setting a good example.

Your hypocrisy amazes me. 

And yes, this post is to add flame to the fire, because as long as you two post crap like this (and then delete it), it is deserved.

Dingo has spoken... who frankly doesn't care much for the topic poster but at least can wish him well, unlike others who just need to post publically to make sure everybody knows they are total assholes.  You two are a match made and 'deserve' each other.

I wish you both well, and hope you both stay away from here in the future.

edit to add:  I fully support lis in her comments, whether they are perceived as true or not, because to me, they are quite accurate.  Lis, that was well worth a 2 day time-out.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #92 on: November 02, 2006, 09:34:21 PM »
sounds like everyone needs a couple chill pills and a visit with Dr. Phil...if Dr. Phil wasn't a giant butthole.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #93 on: November 02, 2006, 09:42:46 PM »
Even in the case of individuals, there is no possibility to feel happiness through anger. If in a difficult situation one becomes disturbed internally, overwhelmed by mental discomfort, then external things will not help at all.

However, if despite external difficulties or problems, internally one’s attitude is of love, warmth, and kindheartedness, then problems can be faced and accepted.



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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #94 on: November 02, 2006, 09:46:54 PM »
Even in the case of individuals, there is no possibility to feel happiness through anger. If in a difficult situation one becomes disturbed internally, overwhelmed by mental discomfort, then external things will not help at all.

However, if despite external difficulties or problems, internally one’s attitude is of love, warmth, and kindheartedness, then problems can be faced and accepted.



Make the BEST of each and every Day!


Eldon,

Darlin' you know that Matty the Damned loves you but I have to ask a question. Are you the guy who writes those little one liner things for desk calenders?

Seriously?

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #95 on: November 02, 2006, 09:49:27 PM »
"Hurting people hurt people."

That's something that was pointed out to me once, and I think it's generally true. It helps me be more compassionate.
Everyone needs to find constructive ways to deal with their anger, fear, and pain. ( i know I do)...
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #96 on: November 02, 2006, 09:56:45 PM »
Hey Matty,

Do you have one of those on your desk too? Or did you throw it out the window? Just sayin.




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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #97 on: November 02, 2006, 10:03:52 PM »
I did not just pee in my pants, not even just a little,
although I did have to check just to be certain.
I'm glad you're still around, Matty.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #98 on: November 02, 2006, 10:47:45 PM »
I peed a little.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #99 on: November 02, 2006, 11:25:23 PM »
Matty,
You must be trying to pull the wool over our eyes. You are obviously one very, very sick man at the moment as there was a typo in your last post. It's calendar, not calender.  ;D
I've waited nearly three years for this. hehehe.

My desk calendar says this: The only man who makes money following the races is one who does it with a broom and shovel.
I'd bet one could make a fortune walking behind KY and T.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #100 on: November 02, 2006, 11:28:29 PM »
Matty,
You must be trying to pull the wool over our eyes. You are obviously one very, very sick man at the moment as there was a typo in your last post. It's calendar, not calender.  Grin
I've waited nearly three years for this. hehehe.


I was dumbing it down for the benefit of the audience, love. ;)

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #101 on: November 02, 2006, 11:37:14 PM »
I peed a little after I read your zinger. Stress incontinence and such you know...... ;D  ::)
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #102 on: November 02, 2006, 11:38:20 PM »
Lisa....honey I knwo what you mean. A giggle = a piddle.
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« Reply #103 on: November 02, 2006, 11:41:18 PM »
Peed like this?


;D

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #104 on: November 02, 2006, 11:47:27 PM »
........ ;D lisa gets up to go change into her third pair of panties.....
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #105 on: November 03, 2006, 12:27:38 AM »
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I've never claimed to be an especially compassionate or sympathetic person.

While this is true it still leaves me a little confused, we have it in writting and on good authority (from the lovely Melia) that you are a big pussy cat...while you on the other hand you claim to be Satan incarnate..one of you is lying...I have a feeling I know who but I need to know for sure, and I need to know before Feb 2007...so tell me, what do I have to pack

1...A cross and a bottle of holy water to ward off your evil spirits.

OR

2..A big tin of cat food (I hear whiskers is the brand)

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #106 on: November 03, 2006, 12:29:53 AM »
whiskers have a free trial offer in the us... it might be available to you aussies...

I recommended the chicken flavored.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #107 on: November 03, 2006, 12:38:58 AM »
I have a feeling I know who but I need to know for sure, and I need to know before Feb 2007...so tell me, what do I have to pack

1...A cross and a bottle of holy water to ward off your evil spirits.

OR

2..A big tin of cat food (I hear whiskers is the brand)


Well, I'd go for the first option coz at the moment:


 . . . and so I'm probably not gonna be that hungry. ;)

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #108 on: November 03, 2006, 01:05:13 AM »
I'll pack both...just in case.... ;)

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #109 on: November 03, 2006, 01:23:31 AM »
....fourth pair of panties... :P
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #110 on: November 03, 2006, 04:23:28 AM »
I'm glad to see you are back, Matty, even if you don't give a rat's ass about me. I'm new here so I really don't expect you to....


As for drama, I don't know who said what, but this is a forum so people should be able to speak their mind and state their opinions. As the saying goes opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. No one says you have to agree with what others have said or will say in the future.....Sticks and stones people......Just my 1 cent worth.
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« Reply #111 on: November 03, 2006, 07:53:11 AM »
As for drama, I don't know who said what, but this is a forum so people should be able to speak their mind and state their opinions. As the saying goes opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. No one says you have to agree with what others have said or will say in the future.....Sticks and stones people......Just my 1 cent worth.

Akasha,

Your kind words and support have not gone unnoticed. As you'll learn, these forums are filled with arseholes. Fortunately the good people are in the majority.

:-*

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #112 on: November 03, 2006, 08:32:16 AM »
I also find his little episode of naming his CD4's a disgrace.  Humorous?  Sorry, not in my eyes.  And I truly don't understand those who obiged his sick display of disrespect to all those who have succumbed to AIDS, as well as US, who are struggling to live with it now.  I just don't get it.

For those who do not understand what Trish just said, I felt compelled to write this particular post.  I am not angry at Trish, as this is her view, no matter that it is very illinformed.

In the very beginning, when actual counting of CD4 cells became a scientific possibility; it became a tradition of those with falling CD4s to name them. Usually this happened after falling below a CD4 level of 20.  After all, it isn't easy when you are failing to keep track of more than 20 names. 

Back in the day, lavish and expensive dinners and parties were concocted to host such naming traditions.  Friends and relatives would show up to help the person with the declining numbers to assign totally approprate names for the particular person involved.  In carrying on this incredible tradition; Matty has invited us to the party, and for that, we should all be grateful that he felt led to invite all of us.  I didn't participate in the naming, as only one came to mind and Mark/aztecan got that one for me....... Lucifer!

Why some of you are rattling the party is not understandable to me particularly, but then you might not have known about this very humorous and mentally healthy way to deal with a, many times, hopeless situation.  You see, back then, the whole bunch that attendded such celebrations were also well aware that their friend would be checking out within the next four to six months.  This was their way of honoring and supporting a friend, and through this silly exercise; also showed their concern that HUMOR be the enlightening spark that might lead to maybe a month longer life.

So, Take it from this survivor; I went to many, witnessed it with my own eyes, mind and heart, and once even did it as Rula Lenska, with the long RED hair and the full length red evening gown...  So there, I said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you don't understand this long standing tradition; please keep your fingers to yourself, and learn a bit of history that Matty has so very generously chosen to share with some of his friends.

Your Eye Witness...

(edited because I forgot she never had blond hair, and it took weeks to find the appropriate RED wig.  Unfortunately, age blurrs the memory  >:( )
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #113 on: November 03, 2006, 08:41:01 AM »
For those who do not understand what Trish just said, I felt compelled to write this particular post.  I am not angry at Trish, as this is her view, no matter that it is very illinformed.

In the very beginning, when actual counting of CD4 cells became a scientific possibility; it became a tradition of those with falling CD4s to name them. Usually this happened after falling below a CD4 level of 20.  After all, it isn't easy when you are failing to keep track of more than 20 names. 

Back in the day, lavish and expensive dinners and parties were concocted to host such naming traditions.  Friends and relatives would show up to help the person with the declining numbers to assign totally approprate names for the particular person involved.  In carrying on this incredible tradition; Matty has invited us to the party, and for that, we should all be grateful that he felt led to invite all of us.  I didn't participate in the naming, as only one came to mind and Mark/aztecan got that one for me....... Lucifer!

Why some of you are rattling the party is not understandable to me particularly, but then you might not have known about this very humorous and mentally healthy way to deal with a, many times, hopeless situation.  You see, back then, the whole bunch that attendded such celebrations were also well aware that their friend would be checking out within the next four to six months.  This was their way of honoring and supporting a friend, and through this silly exercise; also showed their concern that HUMOR be the enlightening spark that might lead to maybe a month longer life.

So, Take it from this survivor; I went to many, witnessed it with my own eyes, mind and heart, and once even did it as Rula Lenska, with the long blond hair and the full length red evening gown...  So there, I said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you don't understand this long standing tradition; please keep your fingers to yourself, and learn a bit of history that Matty has so very generously chosen to share with some of his friends.

Your Eye Witness...




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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #114 on: November 03, 2006, 08:46:58 AM »
I feel honored to have been invited to Matty's party...and hey I even got a spot on his names list!  ;D


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« Reply #115 on: November 03, 2006, 08:48:26 AM »
Yahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!  Apparently Matty feels better. Can't say I enjoy the fighting going on but That's life both here and in the Outside world..Glad you are back and in my fridge eating my food.  I don't love all of you but I wish you the best,and I do love Matty, especially Matty.   Cristy

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #116 on: November 03, 2006, 09:15:12 AM »
Here's hoping the meds will kick in just as they did for me back in the mid 90's when I started taking them and have the same Lazarus like effect on you Matty as they did for me and we will have you around here for a LONG time to come !!!

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #117 on: November 03, 2006, 09:40:39 AM »
Yahhhhhhhhh!!!!!!  Apparently Matty feels better. Can't say I enjoy the fighting going on but That's life both here and in the Outside world..Glad you are back and in my fridge eating my food.  I don't love all of you but I wish you the best,and I do love Matty, especially Matty.   Cristy

You're damn straight Matty feels better. He's not sure why, though.

Here's hoping the meds will kick in just as they did for me back in the mid 90's when I started taking them and have the same Lazarus like effect on you Matty as they did for me and we will have you around here for a LONG time to come !!!

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So suck my dick, chicken-hawks!
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« Reply #118 on: November 03, 2006, 09:45:22 AM »
Don't know what a chicken hawk is but if I did decide to suck your dick, you would come right over to my side cause baby I got skills. Love you Matty,   Cristy

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« Reply #119 on: November 03, 2006, 09:49:38 AM »
Don't know what a chicken hawk is but if I did decide to suck your dick, you would come right over to my side cause baby I got skills. Love you Matty,   Cristy


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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #120 on: November 03, 2006, 09:51:47 AM »
ROFL, Christy you are a trip.  ;)

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #121 on: November 03, 2006, 10:53:20 AM »
Andy,

I hear you loud and clear.  Apparently others on this forum can make hateful posts, that are read by us all and even when their duplicity is found out and they then edit or just blank our the offending posts, then everything is fine.  But if some sap like me then calls them on such behavior, like this has NEVER happened before, in regards to them, then I get a warning of a time out???

It's clear that this forum no longer supports real discussion or even dissent and the fact that you allow this to continue really concerns me.  But what do I know.  So I will be a good boy and not make any more waves.  Nor probably any more posts. 
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #122 on: November 03, 2006, 11:51:51 AM »
It's clear that this forum no longer supports real discussion or even dissent and the fact that you allow this to continue really concerns me.  But what do I know.  So I will be a good boy and not make any more waves.  Nor probably any more posts. 

Joe, this is ridiculous.  I don't want to get into this whole brawl by any means but I'm tired of people getting their undies in a bundle and heading for the hills.  We're all human, it's the nature to feel things are unfair from time to time and to fight, but come on.  What sort of good will your leaving or not posting do for anyone?  Do you think everyone will take notice and suddenly change?  This has definitely swayed my opinion to realize the childishness of BOTH sides.

Sorry for the rant and hijack.  I am unseasonably pissy today.  Please carry on.

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« Reply #123 on: November 03, 2006, 11:56:35 AM »
Joe, this is ridiculous.  I don't want to get into this whole brawl by any means but I'm tired of people getting their undies in a bundle and heading for the hills.  We're all human, it's the nature to feel things are unfair from time to time and to fight, but come on.  What sort of good will your leaving or not posting do for anyone?  Do you think everyone will take notice and suddenly change?  This has definitely swayed my opinion to realize the childishness of BOTH sides.

Sorry for the rant and hijack.  I am unseasonably pissy today.  Please carry on.


Both sides? There are only two sides to a Matty the Damned thread? I never would have taken you for being so narrow . .  .

what is your name again?

If this thread is so childish one is forced to wonder why you lower yourself to commenting at all.

MtD

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #124 on: November 03, 2006, 12:18:58 PM »
Cripes, I'm talking about the the feud.  It's not even about this thread or anything you said.  That is why I am apologizing for hijacking.

It's all carryover from the AMG.
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« Reply #125 on: November 03, 2006, 12:25:51 PM »
Cripes, I'm talking about the the feud.  It's not even about this thread and anything you said.  That is why I am apologizing for hijacking.

The feud? In my own damn thread? Well that's cool. Mayhap you'd like to buy a vowel?


You know it makes sense.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #126 on: November 03, 2006, 12:29:45 PM »
I'll buy a "U".

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« Reply #127 on: November 03, 2006, 12:33:38 PM »
I'll buy a "U".

Really? I'd have gone lower case. BUt whatever lifts yoUr shirt . . .

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #128 on: November 03, 2006, 12:36:35 PM »
Right, b/c the entire puzzle wasn't in CAPS.

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« Reply #129 on: November 03, 2006, 12:39:15 PM »
Right, b/c the entire puzzle wasn't in CAPS.

Unlike you, cock-sucker.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #130 on: November 03, 2006, 12:40:44 PM »
 ;D

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #131 on: November 03, 2006, 12:48:50 PM »
MSPud,

No matter what you think, my comments here have nothing to do with any feud or AMG, it has to do with the posts that were made (in this very thread) and then deleted, once the authors realized that they had stepped WAY across the line of decency.  If you notice, I am not asking for anything more than parity in how the forums are moderated and the fact is that some members can post absolute hatred, then edit it and go their merry way... until the next time.  They have done this in repeated threads and yet everyone is called on it EXCEPT THEM.

Lis gets a time out because she just cannot stand the duplicity of these people, but they get nothing.  When they got together, Lis was the unfortunate one who stated what many of us were thinking and merely warned one of them that the other admitted to being at least bi- if not gay and to be careful.  Sounds pretty reasonable to me, but they jumped on her like white on rice.  She became a Pariah in their eyes and they have never dropped the issue, merely because she expressed an opinion.  That fallout is one of the reasons that Lis did not attend AMG this year, as she did not want to risk any altercations nor detract from the gathering.  Nice huh???

So I strongly disagree with your comments, because you do not know the background.  What I find most disappointing however is the fact that you would rather rant at me, than confront them on their awful behavior.  Trust me, I am not reacting to them per se, as I am to the Moderators who seem to be increasing their censorship and stifling discussion.  I believe their actions warrant some action but I do no make the rules.  I can only speak for myself and if I do not feel comfortable posting here any more, then that is my choice.  I see these forums as an interactive process, yet this duo seems to infect far too many posts and that has greatly diminished my enjoyment of these forums.  Now I can not even point out such behavior, without the threat of a time out.

That is my issue and I would appreciate it if you would check your facts before you just slam me for stating my opinion.  At least if you want to slam me, do it for something I said and not for what you believe are the facts.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #132 on: November 03, 2006, 12:53:36 PM »
MSP will be pissed, but i think that he feels the same way that alot of us do about people like Joe, Moffie,Terry, Matty, Rocky... etc... you know who you are.. If the old school stops with their wisdom, then we lose out on a TON of information that is in our best intrest to have... I wish sometimes that Peter, Andy, and Tim, would write about how hard they PUSHED the limit to get all of us even meds!!!  

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #133 on: November 03, 2006, 12:56:27 PM »
Hey, I wan't knocking you for your opinion about how the moderators are.  I was upset b/c of your threat to take your toys and leave the sandbox.  I think those sorts of threats are silly and don't solve anything.  Please re-read what I am trying to say.  I happen to like your ideas and posts.   

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #134 on: November 03, 2006, 12:57:33 PM »
THANK YOU, Lis!

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« Reply #135 on: November 03, 2006, 12:59:32 PM »
Actually Spud might have a point here. Without us the Goderators would have nothing to Goderate. If you follow my meaning.

I would say I'm sorry for calling you a cock-sucker Spud, but you know I meant it as the highest compliment. ;)

;D

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #136 on: November 03, 2006, 01:05:19 PM »
No offense.  I realize I'm often misunderstood.   ;)

And yes, I'm a professional at that sucking thing.
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« Reply #137 on: November 03, 2006, 01:07:05 PM »
w00000t!!! ;)

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #138 on: November 03, 2006, 01:10:17 PM »
Matty... Im listening to MS PINK right now... missundaztood!!!

LOVE YOU MAN!!!!!!!

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #139 on: November 03, 2006, 01:15:08 PM »
Ok guys, we've gotta get back to pretending like this thread matters. Tim Yawn and Goderator Ann are sitting at the top of the thread in an intimidating way so let's humour them.

;)

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #140 on: November 03, 2006, 01:45:35 PM »
It's really a shame that people have to post their bile and then delete it.  My choice for parents of the year.  They have claimed to be leaving these forums for soooooo many weeks now, why can't they just do it?  Because in their asshole existence they just love to see themselves in print.  Well, your "friends" can probably now be counted on two fingers; one for each of you, and I assume you can guess which ones I mean.  Leave already!  You are cretins.  It seems I haven't missed one damned thing by not being on here in a while.  Those in KC can threaten and then deny it.  Too bad some of it may have been cut and pasted and saved...they can be forwarded to the FBI if need be.  So, just lie your little hearts out.

DavidNC, I don't know if you are running for the Mother Teresa Award yourself, but it does get a little tiring.  Haven't missed any one of you one damned bit (except you, of course, Jan and our REAL friends that we can chat with by email).  Support is something that ya'll seem to give to yourselves.

Matty, your numbers ARE unfortunate, I can relate.  Just for the hell of it, check out www.ldninfo.net and see what you think.

As far as I can see, MOST OF YOU can use grammar lessons, so I wouldn't be the one going there...

Geez, I hope you ALL go to the next AMG and sing Kumbuya and then go off and shiv each other in your backs!  What goes around...

Personally, I miss darling Jonathan.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm only interested in sharing info about neuropathy with those who share and care enough to read.  The rest of you, well...
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #141 on: November 03, 2006, 01:51:37 PM »
Matty, your numbers ARE unfortunate, I can relate.  Just for the hell of it, check out www.ldninfo.net and see what you think.


Yup, they suck arse. And not in the good way, but doll your link is broken. :(

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #142 on: November 03, 2006, 01:52:42 PM »
Hey MS,

I got your meaning and appreciate your viewpoint.  I'm just tired of the toxic waste around here and so I suppose we are both having a pissing bad day.  I have no intention of being run off from any place that I consider precious.  I am, however, becoming very concerned about the rules around here and how they are applied but I seem to be one of the few, so I bow to the majority.

This new atmosphere will not affect my opinions or observations, just my decision on whether I share them.

To me, this whole discussion has become moot, because it seems that nobody cares other than me.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #143 on: November 03, 2006, 02:01:04 PM »
DavidNC, I don't know if you are running for the Mother Teresa Award yourself, but it does get a little tiring. 

No, I don't think I can come close to comparing to Mother Teresa, but thanks for noticing.

However, I thought you left a LONG time ago after the last time your kilt got knotted up.  It was around the time you said you destroyed your AMG shirt.  If we were to use tiring to describe somebody, it would certainly not be in reference to me.

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  Atripla started 12-01-2006
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11-06-07 CD4 570 @30.0% VL 140
02-21-08 CD4 648 @32.4% VL 600
05-19-08 CD4 695 @33.1% VL < 48 undetectable!
08-21-08 CD4 725 @34.5%
11-11-08 CD4 672 @39.5%
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #144 on: November 03, 2006, 02:23:47 PM »
Sorry Matty, probably the meds from my surgery.  Try this link: www.lowdosenaltrexone.org.  Crikey, the drugs are better than I thought!  Don't know why I thought it was .net.  But, even my doc hadn't heard of this, even tho it's been around for decades and used to used to treat heroin addicts.  This affects a certain part of the brain...oh, hell-just read it.  We're going to try it cuz I need my CD4s to creep back up there again, too.

David, after reading all the things you've said in the past, I won't even respond except to say that a kilt never gets knotted up.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #145 on: November 03, 2006, 02:31:28 PM »
Dear Matty,

i know that you have not forgotten me, but i was also disappeared. i had told the reasons a bit. and now i am trying to follow again.
And hearing your health in this situation, i felt really worried. somehow i can not imagine what kind of difficulties you are going through...
But i also can not understand how people can be so unnice to you at this moment when you really need some support.

i couldn't read everything which are posted here, as people stopped talking about your situation but began individual chats.
But i will download SKYPE. and i will try to add you if i can manage...

and if i can catch you online, i will be more than happy.

o ( who thinks Matty is a special, a very special person )


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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #146 on: November 03, 2006, 02:59:36 PM »
Sorry Matty, probably the meds from my surgery. ....  Crikey, the drugs are better than I thought! 

David, after reading all the things you've said in the past, I won't even respond except to say that a kilt never gets knotted up.

I voluntarily give myslef a time out!

I'd like think a LOT of behavior could be blamed on drugs instead on anything else.  I think if you'll actually read all the things I've said in the past  (... All of 'em?  Amazing!  Did you read all the things on the old AidsMeds site too), you'll probably find good reason to not respond; I'm generally fairly polite, supportive, and helpful.  If it's not a kilt, then SOMETHING is knotted up!   ;)

Time outs can be good.

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10-21-06 CD4 285 @21.9% VL >  "
  Atripla started 12-01-2006
01-08-07 CD4 429 @26.8% VL 1872!
05-08-07 CD4 478 @28.1% VL 740
08-03-07 CD4 509 @31.8% VL 370
11-06-07 CD4 570 @30.0% VL 140
02-21-08 CD4 648 @32.4% VL 600
05-19-08 CD4 695 @33.1% VL < 48 undetectable!
08-21-08 CD4 725 @34.5%
11-11-08 CD4 672 @39.5%
02-11-09 CD4 773 @36.8%
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #147 on: November 03, 2006, 03:09:22 PM »
I think that the truth is good....
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« Reply #148 on: November 03, 2006, 03:24:34 PM »
I think it is a great salute to Matty that ya'll have taken to bitch-slapping each other in his thread.

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« Reply #149 on: November 03, 2006, 03:26:18 PM »
your sooooo right!!! we do like to keep our devil happy!!!
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« Reply #150 on: November 03, 2006, 03:32:46 PM »
I'd like think a LOT of behavior could be blamed on drugs instead on anything else. 

I'm just saying...  be they recreational or ones meant to make the crazy or KILLing rational... I'm just saying.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #151 on: November 03, 2006, 03:41:16 PM »
hi danny...
« Last Edit: November 03, 2006, 04:19:14 PM by Lis »
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #152 on: November 03, 2006, 04:03:34 PM »

I'm just saying...  be they recreational or ones meant to make the crazy or KILLing rational... I'm just saying.

Danny,

I just wanted to thank you for referencing me in your last post and labeling my battle and all others with mental health issues as being crazy.  I am so happy that you do not have to live the daily hell that I do because I suffer from mental illness.  How easy it must be for you to navigate through life, firmly in control of yourself, while crazies like me must rely on medications, psychiatrists and therapists to even get through the day.  To know that everything you say and do must be right, because, hey, you are not crazy.

For me however, life is very different and I am very deliberate on what I post, because I know that my brain does not always work as it should.  I spend months changing medications to keep the darkness at bay.  I have a wonderful husband, shrink and therapist, without whom, I would have surely perished by now.  Yet, I plod on the best that I can, realizing my challenges and attempting to live a normal life.

Or at least as normal of a life that a crazy person can live.
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« Reply #153 on: November 03, 2006, 04:09:46 PM »
Matty,
Glad to hear your soldiering on young man. Onward and upward(especially with the naming)  :)

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« Reply #154 on: November 03, 2006, 04:28:59 PM »

John,

I absolutely defy you to carry out your impossible threat of showing me as a hypocrite.  I will wait for that post, but not holding my breath, because it can not be done.  At least when I stick my foot in my mouth, I leave it there for all to see.  And surely you are not suggesting that either yours or Trishs' edited posts in that thread, were what you initially posted.  Why are you so unable to take responsbility for your actions?  With you two it seems to be all about smoke and mirrors.


Cannot be done?  Hmmmm... interestingly enough, IT CAN BE DONE!!!

For your perusal Joe...

a couple of tidbits I found from August & October of this year.  Unfortunately the old forums are gone, but I'm certain you did it there too.

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=2672.msg30293#msg30293  -- Reply #32 on August 8th.

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=4445.msg51021#msg51021  -- Reply #12 on October 4th.

I suppose you conveniently forgot about these posts of yours. :o Doh!!! ::)

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« Reply #155 on: November 03, 2006, 04:56:59 PM »
be well.. and have a GREAT weekend!!!!

you need it!!
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« Reply #156 on: November 03, 2006, 05:01:29 PM »
Trish --

This has got to stop!

Ever since you -- and John -- returned from Toronto, the value of your participation in the Forums has been... shall we say... questionable.  

We get it... you and John were uncomfortable, to say the least, in Toronto... but why are you insisting on turning your distaste into a protracted war in the Forums?  Okay, so you received some pretty harsh responses to your initial grievances, but the fact is that you didn't exactly express many of them with tact.  Surely you must have known that your thoughts (or, more precisely, the way you expressed them) -- and finger pointing -- weren't going to be received kindly by others in attendance.   

You've sent various PMs to the moderators, indicating that you and John have been so mercilessly wronged in the Forums, yet you have taken ZERO responsibility for not only starting flame wars... but perpetuating them to no end.  In fact, this is the ONLY thing I've seen you doing over the past three months.  

If these Forums truly are an endless source of angst and frustration for you, I suggest that you leave them for your own sake.  NOBODY'S going to get the last word in here... not you, not Lis, not Joe... not anybody... all you're doing is keeping this vicious cycle going... and we're totally sick of it.

Now you have a nice week-long time out to think things through.  Enjoy. 

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« Reply #157 on: November 03, 2006, 05:40:14 PM »
Is it just me.. or does Matty resemble DR. House?.. And I'm sure that Jonathon writes the dialogue!!!

just saying!!!


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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #158 on: November 03, 2006, 06:00:09 PM »
Hey Lis...thanks, it's been bugging me since Matty put up the avatar..I knew the face reminded me of someone...Dr House, of course.... :D

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #159 on: November 03, 2006, 06:23:50 PM »
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #160 on: November 03, 2006, 06:33:47 PM »
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Now you have a nice week-long time out to think things through.  Enjoy.

Well Hallelujah at long last; it would've appeared to have been a whole lot fairer if it had happenned at the same time as Lis' >:(. Kilfoile I'm entirely with you on this one and Lis, I think you only said what me and a lot of others were thinking.

Matty what can I say? I don't know you, but I feel empathy, both with you and others on this site. I was sad to read about your numbers and associated health problems and hope that the meds will come to the rescue without too many averse effects.

Once again one of your threads has become compulsive reading.

Wish you the best, John. ;)
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #161 on: November 03, 2006, 07:27:18 PM »
Tim Horn- Just as ridiculous as the rest.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #162 on: November 03, 2006, 07:29:32 PM »
Danny,

I just wanted to thank you for referencing me in your last post and labeling my battle and all others with mental health issues as being crazy.  I am so happy that you do not have to live the daily hell that I do because I suffer from mental illness.  How easy it must be for you to navigate through life, firmly in control of yourself, while crazies like me must rely on medications, psychiatrists and therapists to even get through the day.  To know that everything you say and do must be right, because, hey, you are not crazy.

For me however, life is very different and I am very deliberate on what I post, because I know that my brain does not always work as it should.  I spend months changing medications to keep the darkness at bay.  I have a wonderful husband, shrink and therapist, without whom, I would have surely perished by now.  Yet, I plod on the best that I can, realizing my challenges and attempting to live a normal life.

Or at least as normal of a life that a crazy person can live.
poor poor joe.  My thoughts are with you.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #163 on: November 03, 2006, 07:42:12 PM »
Danny... take a breath.... you dont even have a dog in that fight.....
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #164 on: November 03, 2006, 07:52:45 PM »
Danny,

I am in need of no sympathy, because I do not go around disparaging an entire group of people with mental illness.  Your lack of empathy is disgusting, but not unexpected as your masters have trained you well.  Why don't you scoot over to their new love fest (www.aids2hiv.com) and spread your toxic waste there.

Leave this site for the sober adults as you have nothing constructive to provide here.

In the end Danny, we will never share the same view of the world, because I am afraid that there is simply not enough room up your ass for both of our heads together.
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #165 on: November 03, 2006, 07:57:45 PM »

  Alejandro....  Chill out... waste some energy and call me..
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #166 on: November 03, 2006, 08:00:39 PM »
Well F**CK...  As much as I hate to put myself out there again... I gotta do it....

Danny... those crazy words might just fit in your corner....  be grateful for what you have, and maybe, just maybe you should tell you know who to fight their own battles!!!

your better then that... I hope..
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #167 on: November 03, 2006, 08:16:19 PM »
Hey Lis,

You are RIGHT, be grateful for what you have. There are so many others who are in a worst off situation.

Hey Danny,

Before you decide to talk about someone else, you should take a good look inside of you first. Accept what is inside of you, understand what is inside of you, and change the things that you can inside of you.

Attacking others will not resolve the problem(s) that exists within you.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #168 on: November 03, 2006, 08:37:37 PM »
Now what was this thread about?...oh yeah, the Poo's impending death. I will start a poll later handicapping his odds and we will soon see how everyone makes that about themselves.

I think even the Poomeister would agree that it is all becoming so tedious...and it is all soooo not about you.

Now c'mon people...we got a war to lose, pedophiles to elect next week, and a planet to destroy. Matty's already done his part...can I count on you?

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #169 on: November 03, 2006, 08:43:44 PM »
Tim,

We need to clarify a few things here.  The Various PM’s that Trish sent to the Moderators.  One to each of you moderators after Lis called her a Hooker, if I am not correct, resulted in a timeout for Lis.  Were there other PM's?  That little dick Steve called her a scrag and me a manpussy.  Manpussy?  How much do we take?

Trish’s last post (which was well worth it BTW) here was but a rebuttal to Joe’s challenge (which by the way was proof, IF I AM NOT CORRECT of his idiotic and clearly hypocritical statements).   If I recall, Matty didn’t have a damn thing to do with Montreal (other than inflammatory posts), so what bearing does that have on this thread?  The fact that we stated our opinions about the coveted AMG and were trounced by the worshippers for doing that, AND I might add, were labeled as homophobes (of which I challenge any reader here to back that up).  It wasn’t until we were backed into a corner that we came out fighting.  Wouldn’t you? We have been followed around since then by vultures of the likes of  the literary geniuses Lis, Bailey (who speaks), and Steve, and Matty himself who asks me to tell him again how I got infected.  Got news for ya, Mtd and anyone else here, I never told you in the first place.

I have made posts since then that called people out because frankly, both IN Montreal, and ensuing threads revealed their hypocrisy in true blue.  People can build their own image as they wish, but they should back it up.  That isn’t a prerequisite here. 

With this Smart and Strong deal, you have created a city. In cities, there are gangs.  That is what has happened to this place.  Fine with me, but you guys are looking for damage control far beyond what you are capable of.  Trish and I are gone but your troubles are not. 

Okay, as far as Lis and Baily, I would say that between the two of you, you carry a cumulative IQ of a toaster oven.  Enough said.  Little Steve, get yourself a step ladder, and Matty, no matter how big of an asshole you are, I don’t wish death on anybody, but this has always been within your control.  If you choose to let yourself die, then do it with dignity.

As far as I am concerned, a week isn’t a good enough time out for my ass, so exercise your option Tim.

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #170 on: November 03, 2006, 08:48:48 PM »


   Will we hit page three by the end of the night?
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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #171 on: November 03, 2006, 09:00:55 PM »
 :-X taps fingers

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #172 on: November 03, 2006, 09:07:33 PM »
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So, Take it from this survivor; I went to many, witnessed it with my own eyes, mind and heart, and once even did it as Rula Lenska, with the long RED hair and the full length red evening gown...  So there, I said it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: So things have not gone well.
« Reply #173 on: November 03, 2006, 10:59:16 PM »
I've locked this thread and we've issued additional time outs to Lis, DancerBoy, Killfoile, and KCMetroman. 

I can't believe that this is what it has come to.  Either we completely turn our backs -- which I don't think anyone wants us to do -- or really start cracking down on ALL those who keep the battles going in the Forums. 

We have those who instigate and those who react.  What's really frustrating is that the lines seperating the two have become incredibly blurred.  And with the alliances that have been formed, along with all the finger pointing among various individuals, it is almost impossible to see things with different degrees of guilt.  And because we're now at this point, 48 hour time outs, following by seven-day time outs, followed by full bans will be meted out to any perpetuating flame wars in any of the AIDSmeds.com Forums. 

This really sucks.

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