Subscribe to:
POZ magazine
Join POZ: Facebook MySpace Twitter Pinterest
Tumblr Google+ Flickr Instagram
POZ Personals
Sign In / Join
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
February 10, 2016, 06:08:54 AM

Login with username, password and session length

  • Total Posts: 684999
  • Total Topics: 53598
  • Online Today: 210
  • Online Ever: 585
  • (January 07, 2014, 02:31:47 PM)
Users Online
Users: 3
Guests: 102
Total: 105


Welcome to the POZ/AIDSmeds Community Forums, a round-the-clock discussion area for people with HIV/AIDS, their friends/family/caregivers, and others concerned about HIV/AIDS.  Click on the links below to browse our various forums; scroll down for a glance at the most recent posts; or join in the conversation yourself by registering on the left side of this page.

Privacy Warning:  Please realize that these forums are open to all, and are fully searchable via Google and other search engines. If you are HIV positive and disclose this in our forums, then it is almost the same thing as telling the whole world (or at least the World Wide Web). If this concerns you, then do not use a username or avatar that are self-identifying in any way. We do not allow the deletion of anything you post in these forums, so think before you post.

  • The information shared in these forums, by moderators and members, is designed to complement, not replace, the relationship between an individual and his/her own physician.

  • All members of these forums are, by default, not considered to be licensed medical providers. If otherwise, users must clearly define themselves as such.

  • Forums members must behave at all times with respect and honesty. Posting guidelines, including time-out and banning policies, have been established by the moderators of these forums. Click here for “Am I Infected?” posting guidelines. Click here for posting guidelines pertaining to all other POZ/AIDSmeds community forums.

  • We ask all forums members to provide references for health/medical/scientific information they provide, when it is not a personal experience being discussed. Please provide hyperlinks with full URLs or full citations of published works not available via the Internet. Additionally, all forums members must post information which are true and correct to their knowledge.

  • Product advertisement—including links; banners; editorial content; and clinical trial, study or survey participation—is strictly prohibited by forums members unless permission has been secured from POZ.

To change forums navigation language settings, click here (members only), Register now

Para cambiar sus preferencias de los foros en español, haz clic aquí (sólo miembros), Regístrate ahora

Finished Reading This? You can collapse this or any other box on this page by clicking the symbol in each box.

Welcome to Am I Infected

Welcome to the "Am I Infected?" POZ forum.

New members -- those who have posted three or fewer messages -- are permitted to post questions and responses, free of charge (make them count!). Ongoing participation in the "Am I Infected?" forum -- posting more than three questions or responses -- requires a paid subscription.

A seven-day subscription is $9.99, a 30-day subscription is $14.99 and a 90-day subscription is $24.99.

Anyone who needs to post more than three messages in the "Am I Infected?" forum -- including past, present and future POZ Forums members -- will need to subscribe, with secure payments made via PayPal.

There will be no charge to continue reading threads in the "Am I Infected?" forum, nor will there be a charge for participating in any of the Main Forums; Meds, Mind, Body & Benefits; and Off Topic Forums. Similarly, all POZ and AIDSmeds pages, including our "How is HIV Transmitted?" and "Am I Infected? (A Guide to Testing for HIV)" lessons, will remain accessible to all.

NOTE: HIV testing questions will still need to be posted in the "Am I Infected?" forum; attempts to post HIV symptoms or testing questions in any other forums will be considered violations of our rules of membership and subject to time-outs and permanent bans.

To learn how to upgrade your Forums account to participate beyond three posts in the "Am I Infected?" Forum, please click here.

Thank you for your understanding and future support of the best online support service for people living with, affected by and at risk for HIV.

Author Topic: Oral sex and human bite  (Read 2124 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Ulisse

  • Standard
  • Member
  • Posts: 3
Oral sex and human bite
« on: October 11, 2013, 06:54:23 PM »
First of all, I want to thank the moderators and those who generously contribute to keep this forum active. You're a tremendous help and comfort, even for those living far from the United States.

I'm aware that the issue of oral sex (passive and active) has been widely debated in other threads. However, I'd like to ask a clarification, after reading a study, that dates back to 2011, partially published in a well known website:


If it's true -as has been repeatedly pointed out- that saliva is not an effective vehicle of HIV transmission during oral sex (especially passive), why it may be in the case of a human bite, such as the one described in the report I linked?


Offline Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 16,823
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: Oral sex and human bite
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 07:30:33 PM »
This is the crux of the matter ...The potential risk of HIV-1 infection following human bite although epidemiologically insignificant, but it is biologically possible .

There is nothing in the article you site that is in disagreement with what we provide in our risk assessments . We routinely advise that in cases where there are significant wounds or meth mouth transmission of HIV is a possibility .

We do risk assessments in this forum , did you have a risk ? 

Offline Ulisse

  • Standard
  • Member
  • Posts: 3
Re: Oral sex and human bite
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 08:01:30 PM »
Thanks Jeff for your reply.

Yes, I think I had a risk.
About three weeks ago I received a fellatio by a sex worker, in a Eastern European country, where I was staying for work reasons.
After the fellatio I noticed a small abrasion (minimally bleeding) at the base of the frenulum. I'm not circumcised. I washed, and I've disinfected. Bleeding has stopped quickly.

But, anyway, my question was, also, a request for clarification: why if there's a risk from saliva after a bite, there isn't the same risk if saliva enters the urethra or is absorbed by the soft tissues of the penis?

I hope I explained my concerns and doubts properly. English is not my native language.

Offline Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 16,823
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: Oral sex and human bite
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 08:12:26 PM »
Saliva in isn't infectious for HIV but if you have significant open wounds and you GAVE a blowjob to a man with a high viral load there could be a theoretical risk .

Your situation is not similar , you were not performing sex on a HIV positive male that ejaculated into your mouth and onto significant wounds .

Nothing in the case you site is remotely similar . You did not have a risk . 

Offline Joe K

  • Standard
  • Member
  • Posts: 5,820
  • 31 Years Poz
Re: Oral sex and human bite
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 08:30:00 PM »
I agree with Jeff that you did not have a risk.  The link you provided, deals with saliva that has been tainted by blood and because the blood is infectious, the combination becomes infectious.  Saliva untainted by blood is not infectious.


Offline Ulisse

  • Standard
  • Member
  • Posts: 3
Re: Oral sex and human bite
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 09:05:19 PM »
Thanks Jeff.

Killfoile, on that report I read: Our observations revealed transmission of HIV infection from the smear of non-contaminated (with blood) saliva of [Mr.X] on the raw and bleeding nail bed of (Mr.A).

I thought that my case is similar.

Offline anniebc

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,155
  • AM member since 2003
Re: Oral sex and human bite
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 09:20:47 PM »
We can only tell you again that in the entire history of the epidemic there has never been a confirmed case of HIV transmission to a guy via his getting a BJ, and you are not going to make history by becoming the first.

In regards to your question about human bites:

A human bite is generally classed as a superficial bite, and it is very rare for a bite to penetrate all 3 layers of the skin deeming it to be a large open wound, any infected fluids need to enter the blood stream to be of any risk at all, this did not happen in your case...you have not had any risks that would cause you to be worried about HIV.

Never knock on deaths door..ring the bell and run..he really hates that.

Offline Jeff G

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 16,823
  • How am I doing Beren ?
Re: Oral sex and human bite
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 09:28:59 PM »
You case is not similar , it was not a significant deep wound .

You should be relived to know that there has never been anyone infected in the manner you are concerned over . HIV is sexually acquired via unprotected vaginal and anal sex . Use condoms correctly and consistently and you will avoid HIV , its that simple .

We get lots of people who try to find doubt about our assessments because they do not understand the science behind transmission and make the mistake of mixing risk factors to fit their own fear , we eventually advise them that if they want to test for peace of mind then by all means go test and expect a negative result .

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME for this incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!


Terms of Membership for these forums

© 2016 Smart + Strong. All Rights Reserved.   terms of use and your privacy
Smart + Strong® is a registered trademark of CDM Publishing, LLC.