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Offline 2tcells

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beer and aids
« on: October 11, 2013, 04:40:08 PM »
anyone else drink beer with aids? is this bad for my cd4 count? or just fine? i drink like 4-6 most days. just wondering
7-4-13 diagnosed cd4- 2      vl-220,600
8-3-13                     cd4- 4      vl- 448
9-3-13                     cd4- 40    vl- ud
11-3-13                   cd4- 54    vl-ud
1-9-14                     cd4- 62    vl- 43
4-3-14                     cd4- 110  vl-ud yay!

Offline WillyWump

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 07:13:41 PM »
I'm a Margarita/AIDs man myself.

Look, I drink too and hate to be preachy but 4-6 beers daily seems a bit much. I know that alcohol in moderation is not a problem and the problems arise when you start drinking in excess and forget to take your meds each day on time.

Especially if you have very low CD4's, I would be very careful that you do not miss ANY doses.

I don't know if physiologically 6 beers a day will hurt you regarding HIV, I will have to defer to someone else on that specific question.

-W
« Last Edit: October 11, 2013, 07:25:04 PM by WillyWump »
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Last Labs-
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

Current Meds: Prezista/Epzicom/ Norvir
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Offline Jmarksto

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2013, 11:31:05 AM »
I think Will hit the nail square on the head on this one.  I am a one - two beer, four or five times a week guy.  My city is known for the craft beers, and rain.  If I lived in the fine metropolis of San Antonio, I would be drinking Margaritas too!

Back on topic: I have some purely unscientific, anecdotal, observations about alcohol and HIV for me.

It seems like alcohol affects me more post HIV than it did pre HIV - and the primary logical reason that I can think of is that my liver is processing the meds and the alcohol at the same time, and is therefore taking longer to process both.  The advice I have been given is to drink lots of water -- and I try to drink a glass of water or two between each beer.

Best, JM
03/15/12 Negative
06/15/12 Positive
07/11/12 CD4 790          VL 4,000
08/06/12 CD4 816/38%   VL 49,300
08/20/12 Started Complera
11/06/12 CD4   819/41% VL 38
02/11/13 CD4   935/41% VL UD
06/06/13 CD4   816/41% VL UD
10/28/13 CD4 1131/45%  VL 25
02/25/14 CD4   792/37%  VL UD
07/09/14 CD4 1004/39%   VL UD

Offline Habersham

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2013, 02:45:18 PM »
anyone else drink beer with aids? is this bad for my cd4 count? or just fine? i drink like 4-6 most days. just wondering

If you live in the States you are a functional alcoholic. If you are European you are a light drinker
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Offline buginme2

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2013, 03:47:30 PM »
A six pack of beer each day sounds excessive (but I'm American).

My concern is liver damage.  Liver disease is the number one comorbidity in people with HIV.  In addition, as mentioned previously getting drunk is a big barrier to taking meds consistently.

 

Offline Habersham

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2013, 07:26:22 PM »
Tylenol is especially bad for your liver and beer makes for lot's of burping.

It's a good idea to take your meds in the morning when you are not drunk. Much easier to be responsible that way.

Don't mix Percocet with alcohol because of the acetaminophen (Tylenol).

If you drink Mount Gay with tonic and take straight Oxycontin with it you won't have liver damage for years.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2013, 07:35:35 PM by Habersham »
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2013, 07:34:03 PM »

If you drink Mount Gay with tonic and take straight Oxycontin with it you won't have liver damage for years.

Good info. Thank you.
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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Offline Denver Toad

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2013, 06:21:01 PM »
Quote
anyone else drink beer with aids?

I drink no beers containing AIDS. Hops, malt, barley, foreign, domestic, craft, and home brewed beers. None with AIDS....

Sixer a night? I'm a cheap date, two beers and out like a light.
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Offline rodguy218

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2013, 07:21:27 AM »
I ask my doctor if I had to give up my Martinis and she said no!  I slam a few beers and my t cells still climbing!  I'm from Budweiser town! Lol

Offline Mrmojorisin

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 11:28:20 AM »
Like Jmarksto I am also a craft beer guy. Although Belgian beers are my favorite. I usually have at least one beer a day. Most times it is between 2 and 4 beers a day. Some days more than others. I have an alarm set on my phone to remind me to take my meds. Most of the time I have taken them before it goes off.
Started Meds On 5/1/2012 Norvair, Truvada, Prezista, and Bactrim

4/17/2012--CD4 83/ VL 353,000  7.0%
5/15/2012--CD4 218/ VL 4,970    14.1%
6/27/2012--CD4 146/ VL 420      6.1%
10/11/2012-CD4-223/ VL-62       9.5%
2/14/2013--CD4-215/ VL-119      13.6%
7/3/2013---CD4-256/ VL-UD       18.0%
10/18/2013 CD4-223/ VL-UD       22.2%
01/23/2014-CD4-381/VL-UD       25.3%--Dropped the Bactrim

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Offline wolfter

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Re: beer and aids
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2013, 11:54:28 AM »
I have no peer reviewed evidence, but am convinced white zin increases CD4's and lowers VL. 

Wolfie
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