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Offline Sigmundovic

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Cliche, but still worried senseless
« on: October 03, 2013, 07:38:33 AM »
Hi guys

I know you get this sort of questions all the time, and I apologise for asking, most probably, the same thing as many other people before. But I am very anxious and scared.

Last week I had sex with an escort. I used the condom, and water based lubricant. Condom did not fail, I checked it afterwards. After we finished (did not last very long at all) I left the condom on for at least 30 seconds and no more than 2 minutes. After that I soaked my groin area with facial cleansing liquid (mix of alcohol and few other chemicals) after that I took the condom off, and wrapped tissue paper around the base of my penis to prevent any liquids going towards the tip. After that, I took a clean condom and covered the tip of my penis and the inner foreskin. Following that I spilled 40% alcohol all around my groin and testicles. After that I went and had a shower, and only then I took of the second condom and washed the tip of my penis with shampoo. After I dried myself, I sprayed alcohol all over my penis again.

I do realise that as you at reading this, you must b thinking: total freak, and definitively overkill. Which it probably was.

Next day I was replying the whole thing in my had again, and I realised that I may have touched inner foreskin (but definitively no contact with the head or urethra) on my penis when I was putting the second clean condom on with my fingers that touched the outside of the first condom that was in contact with her vaginal fluids. And I freaked out. I had a full blown panic attack.

My question is: in this scenario, was I at risk at infection with HIV? Bearing in mind that after I touched the inner foreskin, I covered it with the second condom and in doing so, protected it from oxygen.

Also, 5 days after, my throat got sore, and that has lasted for 4 days now. Also my nose is little runny. My body temperature is normal (checking several times a day) no enlarged lymph nodes, and no other symptoms. Could any infection manifest this early?

How much trouble could I be in? And how soon can I test?

Thank you very much, any insight would be greatly appreciated

Michael

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 07:50:27 AM »
You did not have a risk . HIV is a fragile virus that requires a very narrow set of circumstances in order to infect . These are the risk factors for HIV ...

Sharing IV drug needles immediately after use.
Unprotected anal and vaginal sex.
Mother to child during or shortly after birth
Very specific healthcare situations.

HIV is instantly damaged when exposed to oxygen and rendered unable to infect , that is why no one has ever been infected from getting vaginal or anal secretions on the hands or fingers . HIV is simply not transmitted sexually in any other way than unprotected vaginal or anal sex . Its not a very elegant way of saying it but HIV doesn't seep or creep out of a person searching for a way to infect , its actually a hard to transmit virus .

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME for this incident , anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!
 

If you had a risk I would not hesitate to tell you so that you could get tested and possibly prevent further infections . You did not have a risk . 

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 05:01:18 PM »
Hi Jeff

Thanks for the prompt reply. I really appreciate it. You did put my mind at ease.

Would you recommend testing? I think I will go and test for siphilis and chlamidia, as they are much easier to pick up, but it would be to early to test for hiv at this stage (less than 2 weeks after the incident)?

Michael

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 06:09:37 PM »
I would never advise a person not to test for HIV or get a regular sexual health care check  . I just wanted to make it clear that you did not have a risk for HIV in this specific incident . 

I think its a good idea to begin getting your checkups and now is as good of time as any . Best of luck . 

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 07:43:01 PM »
Let me start by apologising in advance, I do realise that it must be very frustrating to deal with hypochondriacs. Jeff already did reply to my inquiry from few weeks ago. Having protected sex with CSW.

I went and had a combo test antibody/antigen, 10 days after the incident. Results off course came back negative, probably to early for a test to be reliable, but RT PCR is very sensitive, so that result put my mind at ease.

Exactly 23 days after the incident my throat got sore, and it it has been 3 days now. And I know that symptoms mean nothing, but I keep coming back the average time for seroconversion...... So naturally I have been having massive panic attacks, and I am going to be away from home for two weeks, so I can't go and do rapid test for a while.

Any advice in regards how to deal with anxiety would be greatly appreciated

Thanks guys!

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2013, 08:06:21 PM »
You didn't have a risk so there is no need for further testing . You are HIV negative .

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2013, 03:49:22 PM »
Please do not post outside of your own thread . We have a a three question rule that allows you to ask questions without buying a subscription . If we allowed you to post in other peoples thread to get around the rules it would not be fair to other members .

If you search the forum you will find the answer to any additional questions you may have . Thanks for understanding .

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2013, 03:55:20 PM »
Hi Jeff

I just finished reading the rules, and realized that I wasn't supposed to comment in someone else's topic. Sorry mate. I did get however get a subscription ;-)

So if you don't mind, my question that I asked in dumbness's topic is still bugging me...

Could any viral particles already present in the vaginal fluid be massaged into the foreskin or glans of the penis whilst masturbating? Or is the virus really that sensitive that it simply cannot  infect outside the body?

Thanks Mate, and sorry for the trouble!

Michael

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2013, 04:04:40 PM »
Hiv is really that fragile and it poses no risk once exposed to oxygen . The smallest change in PH levels and temperature damage HIV and render unable to infect .

Very specific things has to happen for HIV to infect and those conditions are met during vaginal sex when the unprotected glans of a mans penis comes into contact with the mucosa deep in the vagina near the cervix . This is one reason HIV isn't an epidemic in the Lesbian community , its because cunnilingus and sex toys are not a route for HIV transmissions because the secretions a woman makes when excited isn't infectious nor is HIV once exposed to oxygen from a sex toy .   

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 03:58:08 AM »
Hi Guys

I was wondering, can I ask one more question, I did just pay for subscription.....


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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 04:46:46 AM »
My question is, in your experience, could rash be the only symptom of acute infection? Also, would rash look like folliculitis, tiny bit of pus inside that can be squeezed out?

Thank you very much!

Any replies would be greatly appreciated

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 05:25:57 AM »
Sig,

No, the rash that sometimes accompanies seroconversion is flat, painless, and doesn't itch or produce pus. It's similar to a meningitis rash, but usually appears on the trunk of the body, not the arms, legs, or head and neck.

You haven't had a risk for hiv infection. If your rash is bothering you, show it to a doctor. Whatever is causing it is NOT hiv.

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Re: Cliche, but still worried senseless
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 05:54:36 AM »
Thanks for the reply Ann

I know that I am probably over thinking this, and that I am definitively paranoid, but i just cant stop to think the worst possible scenario...

4 weeks ago I had unprotected sex with my GF, first time since the incident I described in my first post, and couple days ago I noticed what appears to be folliculitis on her collar area, and i started to get paranoid again.....

Thanks for the insight, I appreciate it

 


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