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Author Topic: Nosebleed whilst performing oral sex on a woman  (Read 1234 times)

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Offline rm1234

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Nosebleed whilst performing oral sex on a woman
« on: September 21, 2013, 05:44:24 AM »
Hello

Last night I was performing unprotected oral sex on a girl who is an escort. But when I was doing it my nose started bleeding. The blood was dripping down from my nose.

Is it possible that her vaginal fluids could have entered my bloodstream through the source of the bleeding in my nose? She was quite wet and her vaginal fluid was around my mouth and on my face.

I am very worried about this incident. Should I go on PEP because of this?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Nosebleed whilst performing oral sex on a woman
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 05:48:35 AM »
You didn't have risk and here is why ...

Hiv transmission doesn't stand a chance of happening via female genitals to mouth - there are just too many obstacles on the oral route.
The first obstacle is the mouth itself. The mouth is a veritable fortress, standing against all sorts of pathogens we come into contact with every minute of our lives. It's a very hostile environment and saliva has been shown to contain over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv.
Hiv is a very fragile virus - literally. Its outer surface doesn't take kindly to changes in its preferred environment; slight changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all damage the outer surface. Importantly, it needs this outer surface to be intact before it can latch onto a few, very specific cell types and infect.
Which leads to the second obstacle. Hiv can only latch onto certain types of cells, cells which are not found in abundance in the mouth.
The third obstacle to transmission this way is having hiv present in the first place. The female secretion where hiv has been shown to be present is the cervicovaginal fluid. This fluid is actually a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix.
The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, located on either side of the vaginal opening. I have yet to discover one shred of evidence (and believe me, I've looked) that shows this lubricating fluid to have any more hiv present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are NOT infectious fluids.
So there you have it. Once the results of the serodiscordant studies started rolling in, what we know about hiv transmission on the cellular level was validated. The only people who were getting infected were those who had unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. Period. One of the three studies went on for ten years and involved hundreds of couples. That's a lot of nookie.

I provided this information so you can see that cunnilingus isnt a risk so there you did not have a risk .

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!


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Re: Nosebleed whilst performing oral sex on a woman
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 06:20:10 AM »
Many thanks for your reply Jeff, but I am not concerned with the possibility of the virus entering in my mouth.

The problem was the nosebleed and the possibility of vaginal fluid entering inside the nose.

I take your point about the external vaginal fluid not having as much concentration of the HIV virus as would be found internally, but since her fluid came into contact with my blood, the risk seems that it could be much higher, and this was the reason for my post.

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Re: Nosebleed whilst performing oral sex on a woman
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 06:38:37 AM »
Cunnilingus isn't a risk and no has ever been infected with HIV from cunnilingus . As I provided in the above information , the fluids a woman makes when excited is not infectious ... HIV if present resides near the cervix in the surrounding mucosa and is not a factor for HIV when performing cunnilingus .

How many exclusive lesbians do you know with HIV ? , there aren't any because the risk factors a not there for that type of sex .

You did not and could not have acquired HIV from this incident .       

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Re: Nosebleed whilst performing oral sex on a woman
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 11:06:44 PM »
Cunnilingus isn't a risk and no has ever been infected with HIV from cunnilingus . As I provided in the above information , the fluids a woman makes when excited is not infectious ... HIV if present resides near the cervix in the surrounding mucosa and is not a factor for HIV when performing cunnilingus .

How many exclusive lesbians do you know with HIV ? , there aren't any because the risk factors a not there for that type of sex .

You did not and could not have acquired HIV from this incident .       

More to the point, as there are few cells within the mouth even receptive to HIV, there are even fewer in the nose.

You had entirely no risk
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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