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Offline Gruff

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Raw Milk?
« on: January 30, 2016, 10:36:22 PM »
I tend to be an natural/organic health food kind of guy, and have been reading constantly about the benefits of raw (unpasteurized) milk. And I drink ALOT of milk (we go through 8 gallons a month minimum in out house - I use milk in my protein shakes.)   But I also remember hearing that raw milk was a big no-no for those of us with HIV because of our weakened immune systems...on the other hand, I am very healthy, good CD%, an undetectable VL, and never get sick even when everyone around me does.

I'm also reminded that I was told I shouldn't have birds or touch turtles (I have both), and should never eat raw eggs (I have 4 every morning in that same shake.)

Sooooo...I'm wondering if any of you have had experience - good or bad - with raw milk.
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Offline AusShep

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Re: Raw Milk?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2016, 12:43:16 AM »
Some of the best ice cream and butter I've had was unpasteurized. 

I don't worry about raw eggs, raw oysters or any of that stuff; and don't think there is  a need to with > 500 CD4s.   I probably wouldn't with < 200. 

Online JimDublin

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Re: Raw Milk?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2016, 05:07:13 AM »
When I was sick and had low CD4 counts I was told to avoid eggs, unpasteurized milk and soft cheese made from unpasteurized milk, I was also told to avoid seafood, under cooked meat and coming into contact with any animals. It's all a bit impractical as i live in a small rural town with plenty of fresh food.

Nowadays however my Cd4 and % are pretty stable (790 & 35 %) and I am in better health so i eat whatever i like as normal including unpasteurized milk and soft cheese.  I mean there is never a 100% guarantee of safety when it comes to raw foods or drinks, but that goes for anyone. 


 

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Offline Gruff

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Re: Raw Milk?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2016, 09:17:21 AM »
Yeah, come to think of it, I eat a ton of raw clams and raw oysters too... :)
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06/08/2015  VL ud  CD4 647  39%
10/21/2014  VL ud  CD4 378  44%
06/12/2014  VL ud  CD4 725  37%
03/14/2014  VL 29  CD4 597  35%
11/14/2013  VL ud  CD4 595  37%
08/12/2013  VL ud  CD4 557  33%
04/22/2013  VL 43  CD4 430  31%
01/16/2013  VL ud  CD4 524   34%
09/28/2012  VL 59  CD4 471  31%
06/05/2012  VL ud  CD4 650  32%
02/27/2012  VL ud  CD4 503  28%
11/25/2011  VL ud  CD4 765  32%
06/17/2011  VL ud  CD4 660  29%
11/03/2010  VL ud  CD4 654  31%
07/15/2010  VL ud  CD4 507  27%
03/25/2010  VL ud  CD4 741  23%
11/19/2009  VL 59  CD4 704  24%
08/17/2009  VL 89  CD4 493  18%
05/06/2009  VL 105 CD4 545  17%
01/26/2009  VL ud  CD4 585  16%
11/26/2008  VL 247 CD4 338  13%
06/28/2008  VL 3,308,049  CD4 444

Offline Wade

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Re: Raw Milk?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2016, 09:43:28 AM »
I eat raw clams , oysters and sushi on an regular basis
and I have yet to get sick .
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