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Author Topic: Pelargonium sidoides (Umckaloabo and South African Geranium)  (Read 327 times)

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Offline eyupbirer

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Pelargonium sidoides (Umckaloabo and South African Geranium)
« on: December 02, 2014, 05:16:23 PM »
When i read this article http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0087487 i have give desigion to use this medicine on me.
My initial condition was CD4:520 Vl: 120.000. I am not on ARV medication.  I have start to used  30drop UMCA three times a day.   After 3 month Cd4:450 VL:27.000 . when i have recive six month result Cd4:400 VL:50.000 .
 After that i have stoped to use this medicine. Also there wasnt any problem occure at my liver and kidney. it has got benefit to reduce VL but no effect to increase CD4.   
Is there  anybody have here who has experiance for using long term this medicine, Umcakaloabo??? What result are u take? please share with me.... this medicine recomented for max 2 weeks use to  treating acute bronchitis but i have used for six months on HIV safely...
« Last Edit: December 02, 2014, 05:23:05 PM by eyupbirer »

Offline mecch

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Re: Pelargonium sidoides (Umckaloabo and South African Geranium)
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2014, 06:25:00 PM »
But the authors don't say its a medicine and only suggest it could be researched and developed to someday in the future be an effective and yes herb-based medicine.

You are having no significant benefits from your dithering. There is medicine which would cut your viral load to zero and who knows how high your CD4 set point might be - 600? 800? 1000+?  Medicine called HAART.  Research proven effective and safe.

Welcome here. Would you say why you dont want to take ARVs / HAART?
« Last Edit: December 02, 2014, 06:33:55 PM by mecch »
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Offline Jeff G

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Re: Pelargonium sidoides (Umckaloabo and South African Geranium)
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2014, 08:11:58 PM »
Welcome to the forum … I removed your post about Pelargonium sidoides (Umckaloabo and South African Geranium) from another thread and I am going to ask to please only discuss this topic in this one thread . The science and facts are complete and well documented that only HAART will save your life if you have HIV so we will not allow people to give the false impression that Geranium or garlic has any other remedies have any positive impact or benefit at treating HIV .

If you keep your comments on the same topic in this one thread it is easier to address the topic all in one place . Thank you for your cooperation .

 

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Re: Pelargonium sidoides (Umckaloabo and South African Geranium)
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2014, 11:18:20 AM »
But the authors don't say its a medicine and only suggest it could be researched and developed to someday in the future be an effective and yes herb-based medicine.

You are having no significant benefits from your dithering. There is medicine which would cut your viral load to zero and who knows how high your CD4 set point might be - 600? 800? 1000+?  Medicine called HAART.  Research proven effective and safe.

Welcome here. Would you say why you dont want to take ARVs / HAART?

Thanks for your answer,
I am infected two years ago, and my cd4 was 450 and VL was 100.000 ... two years passd and my result not change... I dont want to use ARV medicines because of my insurance continueity... I havent got full time job. i am working temporary so i couldnt take medicines regularly.   

Offline mecch

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Re: Pelargonium sidoides (Umckaloabo and South African Geranium)
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2014, 08:32:52 PM »
What country do you live in? You have to try to work out steady and complete access to  necessary HIV treatment.  The only treatment is anti-retrovirals. The rest is wasting money if you expect it to stop the progression of HIV.
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

 


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