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Offline RobbyR

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #50 on: August 31, 2013, 09:22:28 PM »
We just need to stay the hell out of the Middle East it's nothing but trouble. Obama put his foot in it and basically committed us to military action after he drew the red line. It's bad what Assad did but I don't see what we can do about it unless we're prepared to go to war. There are no good options. Stay out & the carnage continues, get involved & risk a wider war.
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Offline bocker3

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« Reply #51 on: September 01, 2013, 12:31:44 AM »
We just need to stay the hell out of the Middle East it's nothing but trouble. Obama put his foot in it and basically committed us to military action after he drew the red line. It's bad what Assad did but I don't see what we can do about it unless we're prepared to go to war. There are no good options. Stay out & the carnage continues, get involved & risk a wider war.

While I am not advocating our involvement here, your reasoning makes me wonder what would have happened had the French said that when the American rebels were agitating their dictator??
My reasoning for us staying out of any war in Syria is that there are no real goals, aside from ridding Syria of Assad.  There is no ONE rebel group, so what would be the ultimate goal?  Certainly not creating a vacuum.

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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2013, 01:26:13 AM »
I just find it interesting how our government and citizens react to the chemical weapons issue.  We gave them to Iraq, to use against Iran, including anthrax and the bubonic plague.  When Saddam used them against the Kurds, we turned a blind eye.  We were supplying Saddam with weapons, training, and intelligence.  Because he was of use to us then, we weren't concerned much with the use of awful chemical and biological weapons.  We gave Saddam the positions of Iranian troops, knowing that he planned to use chemical weapons.  And, many consider Reagan one of the best presidents.

Has the government ever apologized for that, and adopted a real policy that we would never give these weapons to anyone ever again?  It just seems like we pick and choose what we find repugnant.  We don't have much moral authority.  We have stockpiles, with many stored here in Kentucky.  Why don't we destroy them, to show they have no legitimate use? 

I remember reading we may have used chemical weapons in Iraq. Here are a couple articles, that allege the U.S. used depleted uranium, white phosphorus, and napalm. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/craig-considine/us-depleted-uranium-as-ma_b_3812888.html

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2005/nov/15/usa.iraq

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Re: Syrian Civil War
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Offline mecch

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2013, 06:55:38 PM »
Hmm sounds like the hawks want the same old same old - regime change, WAR. Plus they get to crow, rightly so, about Obama's ham-handed handling...   

Who enjoys hawks crowing...

Sounds like the dems will mumble about a too broad mandate, look down and away.

Oh the French language reports were merciless about the parallels between Kerry and Colin Powell and the ill-defined or maybe fraudulent justification of all this...  Maybe the frog government is on board but the press and people sure aren't. 
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Offline RobbyR

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #55 on: September 03, 2013, 08:20:16 PM »
We should be well aware of what we're getting into. Bashar Assad is no looney like Ghaddafi. Assad is a ruthless, intelligent, calculating, man who's spent 13 years building a police state capable of withstanding any internal or external threat. If we attack & don't go all the way, like in the Gulf War in 1991, Assad will be weakened but left in power & will claim victory over the US & continue acting out. If however we do go in there's a very real risk that he'll lash out & gas more of his people or worse attack Israel or Saudi Arabia. If we attack, which seems likely, he'll probably lash out. Syria has the largest stockpile of chemical weapons in the Middle East. Supposedly they also have quite a few scud missiles they've gotten from the Russians.

I'm for doing something to stand against Assad's genocide, but the question is what. There just aren't any good options & I'm reluctant for another war in the Middle East. His use of chemical weapons was terrible, but I'm not clear on what our stake in this is.
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #56 on: September 03, 2013, 09:56:12 PM »
That bloodthirsty Boxer and Pelosi want to commence bombing NOW. Thank God we have Boehner and Rubio calming them down  ::)
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #57 on: September 03, 2013, 10:05:03 PM »
That bloodthirsty Boxer and Pelosi want to commence bombing NOW. Thank God we have Boehner and Rubio calming them down  ::)

Boehner's a drunk (like you) and was passed out -- likely from cheap house tequila and high-fructose Walmart margarita mix. His #2, Cantor of the Old Dominion, says that this is a "secular proxy war" with Iran and wants Barry Soetoro to do his job and take out the mullahs at the end. So, in that context, Babs and Nan are actually staking out the more liberal position.
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2013, 10:07:00 PM »
Boehner's a drunk (like you) and was passed out -- likely from cheap house tequila and high-fructose Walmart margarita mix. His #2, Cantor of the Old Dominion, says that this is a "secular proxy war" with Iran and wants Barry Soetoro to do his job and take out the mullahs at the end. So, in that context, Babs and Nan are actually staking out the more liberal position.

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #59 on: September 03, 2013, 10:26:18 PM »
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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2013, 10:29:14 PM »
Yeah, I bet you find it fascinating.

I hope this doesn't reopen the whole birth certificate issue again....  ;)
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Offline Miss Philicia

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« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2013, 10:37:48 PM »
I hope this doesn't reopen the whole birth certificate issue again....  ;)

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #62 on: September 04, 2013, 12:06:18 AM »
Just wait until one of them wakes up, looks in the mirror and says "Today is a Say Something Hat Day"  ::)  then decides to wade into a civil war because a "red line has been crossed"........how come that wasnt said when China moved their warships into the Sea of Japan last year?

There are currently no overweight Sopranos waiting to come on stage and start singing.....and its unlikely any will be booked for next years Superbowl either!

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #63 on: September 04, 2013, 12:48:36 AM »
I don't know how I can focus on chemical weapons and military action, when there is this scandal.  This needs a special prosecutor and impeachment hearings.  This is what many on the right find so appalling, today.  I've seen it on both national and local news, as well as social media.  These silly things always come from the right.  "Oh, dear!  Obama didn't wear a jacket in the Oval Office, when Bush always did.  Bush respected the office."  Btw, there are photos of Bush not wearing a jacket and I believe his feet on the desk. 

I post this here, because I don't see how something as serious as military action can be debated between the parties, when silly things like this make news.  The nuts and Faux News start the story, and then mainstream media picks it up.  News outlets post it on facebook, asking whether you think it is disrespectful to the office.  How dare a black Kenyan (lol) put his feet on the white man's desk.  I don't care if he jerks off on the desk, just as long the decisions made at that desk are well thought out and done for the right reasons. 





http://www.teaparty.org/does-seeing-president-obamas-foot-on-the-oval-office-desk-make-your-blood-boil-28018/




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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #64 on: September 04, 2013, 06:56:51 AM »
Nixon sullied the Oval Office years ago, with his lies, crimes and vulgarity. Clinton did his bit to keep it dirty.
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Offline RobbyR

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #65 on: September 04, 2013, 11:13:23 AM »
I see nothing wrong with the picture. Obama is talking on the phone & deliberating the issues of the day. He's the Chief Executive & like any other ceo the office gets stuffy every now & then. He still looks nice, has a nice shirt & tie on. No issue in my opinion. Actually to be accurate he is bi-racial. Maybe that bothers the right wingers even more. But like meech said, if you want to talk about truly tainting the Oval Office, Nixon sat there & spewed out tons of bigoted hate speech & Clinton let that fat intern Monica blow him off. So yea I see nothing wrong if Obama simply talks on the phone without a suit jacket. Maybe Fox News was having a light news day.
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #66 on: September 04, 2013, 11:44:07 AM »
Please people, FDR started the shenanigans by doing Coke lines off the Oval Office desk. He was jacked up to Jesus when he declared war on Japan. ::)

Who cares what happens in the White house... I'm sure GW porked Laura in the bunghole on that desk. Who wouldnt want to do that?

...now can we get back to the business of attacking other countries please!
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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #67 on: September 04, 2013, 11:56:44 AM »
I'm sure GW porked Laura in the bunghole on that desk. Who wouldnt want to do that?

Laura Welch runs over people with cars if they refuse sex. Then again she smokes menthol and is a closet abortionist like her daughters.
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Offline mecch

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #68 on: September 04, 2013, 12:48:13 PM »
I'm sure GW porked Laura in the bunghole on that desk. Who wouldnt want to do that?


I don't want any of Laura's holes even if they were offerred up in the Presidential Suite of the Hotel Wilson in Geneva, with black attachťs of unmarked cash.

speaking of First Ladies

I read somewhere that Vogue took down its profile of Mrs. al-Assad. So I googled her.

Charming:

lymail.co.uk/news/article-2408054/As-Syria-implodes-Mrs-Assad-splashes-chandeliers-Western-food-fitness-fads-Bizarre-shopping-spree-British-beauty-holed-bunker-vile-dictator.html

As Syria implodes, Mrs Assad splashes out on chandeliers, Western food and fitness fads: Bizarre shopping spree of the British beauty holed up in bunker with vile dictator

Asma Assad, 38, orders Western food so her children don't eat Syrian cuisine all the time

Studied at King's College London and worked as a banker at JP Morgan before meeting her husband
Extreme spending came to light last year when she ordered £270,000 chandeliers

Former adviser to the Assads claims Asma is superficial and has 'no heart'



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2397440/Asma-al-Assads-Instagram-charm-offensive-backfires-users-turn-Syrian-lady.html

Instagram users turn on Syrian first lady Asma al Assad after she attempts internet charm-offensive

Pictures show British-born Asma al-Assad doing charity work

Instagram outrage where commentators brand her a 'hypocrite'


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Offline bocker3

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #69 on: September 04, 2013, 05:33:56 PM »
I don't know how I can focus on chemical weapons and military action, when there is this scandal.  This needs a special prosecutor and impeachment hearings.  This is what many on the right find so appalling, today.  I've seen it on both national and local news, as well as social media.  These silly things always come from the right.  "Oh, dear!  Obama didn't wear a jacket in the Oval Office, when Bush always did.  Bush respected the office."  Btw, there are photos of Bush not wearing a jacket and I believe his feet on the desk. 

I post this here, because I don't see how something as serious as military action can be debated between the parties, when silly things like this make news.  The nuts and Faux News start the story, and then mainstream media picks it up.  News outlets post it on facebook, asking whether you think it is disrespectful to the office.  How dare a black Kenyan (lol) put his feet on the white man's desk.  I don't care if he jerks off on the desk, just as long the decisions made at that desk are well thought out and done for the right reasons. 





http://www.teaparty.org/does-seeing-president-obamas-foot-on-the-oval-office-desk-make-your-blood-boil-28018/

And the media (mainstream or otherwise) shall continue to do so, so long as eyes keep looking at it.  They rely on folks passing it on and posting it elsewhere (hint, hint) to keep the story moving. 

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Offline mecch

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #70 on: September 04, 2013, 05:49:47 PM »
Laughing at the dumbbell tpartiers scandalized by such posts is not "part of the problem". 
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« Reply #71 on: September 04, 2013, 05:53:19 PM »
Yeah Ted , be sure not to repost that pic Mike warned you about posting , you know the pic , its the one Mike just warned you not to post by posting it himself .   

I couldn't resist .

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« Reply #72 on: September 04, 2013, 06:08:31 PM »
Yeah Ted , be sure not to repost that pic Mike warned you about posting , you know the pic , its the one Mike just warned you not to post by posting it himself .   


lol. I was thinking the same thing  ;D
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Offline bocker3

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« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2013, 06:32:20 PM »
Yeah Ted , be sure not to repost that pic Mike warned you about posting , you know the pic , its the one Mike just warned you not to post by posting it himself .   

I couldn't resist .

Tell me where I told Ted not to post it???  I dare you....    :P

Plus -- I didn't "post" it, I simply quoted it, so there!!!!  Besides -- a picture is worth a thousand words, right???  Hmmmm,  How many other politician like "ducks" can I come up with?? ?? ??
I guess it all comes down to what you definition of "post" is??

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Offline RobbyR

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2013, 06:39:42 PM »
Syria didn't attack us. I feel bad for the citizens there but it's not our business. Assad  is horrible, but he didn't use chemical weapons against us. Too many unknowns if we get involved. And all of them bad. Why should we spend blood & treasure in this? We should have stayed out of Iraq & we should not get into another war in the Middle East but it's going to happen & nothing's going to stop it at this point.
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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #75 on: September 04, 2013, 06:50:13 PM »
Tell me where I told Ted not to post it???  I dare you....    :P

Plus -- I didn't "post" it, I simply quoted it, so there!!!!  Besides -- a picture is worth a thousand words, right???  Hmmmm,  How many other politician like "ducks" can I come up with?? ?? ??
I guess it all comes down to what you definition of "post" is??

Hugs to all (except the faux news posters, of course  ;) )

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« Reply #76 on: September 04, 2013, 06:53:55 PM »
we should not get into another war in the Middle East but it's going to happen & nothing's going to stop it at this point.

But Obama said this isnt going to be a war.
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« Reply #77 on: September 04, 2013, 07:07:35 PM »
I edited personal information out of someone's post the other day not realizing I quoted the personal information when smugly admonishing them for posting it , of course a well meaning forum member reported me to the moderator and pointed it out .   
ROFL

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« Reply #78 on: September 04, 2013, 07:08:04 PM »
Syria didn't attack us. I feel bad for the citizens there but it's not our business. Assad  is horrible, but he didn't use chemical weapons against us. Too many unknowns if we get involved. And all of them bad. Why should we spend blood & treasure in this? We should have stayed out of Iraq & we should not get into another war in the Middle East but it's going to happen & nothing's going to stop it at this point.

Since it's none of our business and we should stay out of it, I'm just curious if you feel the same way with other issues such as AIDS funding and famine relief to poor nations?   ;)  Why save "those" people if they're not willing to help themselves!!!!

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« Reply #79 on: September 04, 2013, 07:10:51 PM »
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #80 on: September 04, 2013, 07:27:45 PM »
Jon Stewart was back last night, and I see things how he does.  He mentions what I posted in an earlier post.  We assisted Saddam in using chemical and biological weapons against Iran.  We looked the other way, when he used them on the Kurds.  We still have huge stockpiles.  We still have Napalm bombs, with reports we may have used them in Iraq, along with depleted uranium. 

Over 100,000 Syrians were already killed by conventional methods.  What makes this the time to get involved?  And, I have also thought how so many talk about us looking weak.  We will do this to not look weak?  Even if it makes no sense and may just cause more problems, we must do this to not look weak, because Iran and others are watching to see what we do?

Oh, I especially enjoy how Rummy discusses how awful it is to use chemical weapons, when he was the point man for assisting Saddam in doing the same.


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« Reply #81 on: September 04, 2013, 07:41:58 PM »
Jon Stewart was back last night, and I see things how he does.  He mentions what I posted in an earlier post.  We assisted Saddam in using chemical and biological weapons against Iran.  We looked the other way, when he used them on the Kurds.  We still have huge stockpiles.  We still have Napalm bombs, with reports we may have used them in Iraq, along with depleted uranium. 

Over 100,000 Syrians were already killed by conventional methods.  What makes this the time to get involved?  And, I have also thought how so many talk about us looking weak.  We will do this to not look weak?  Even if it makes no sense and may just cause more problems, we must do this to not look weak, because Iran and others are watching to see what we do?

Oh, I especially enjoy how Rummy discusses how awful it is to use chemical weapons, when he was the point man for assisting Saddam in doing the same.


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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #82 on: September 04, 2013, 08:33:31 PM »
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« Reply #83 on: September 04, 2013, 11:06:25 PM »
Pelosi and the posse disagree with you

Well, she has been a little odd.  She left the West Wing and talked to reporters about a discussion with her 5 year-old granddaughter, regarding whether to strike Syria. 

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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #84 on: September 04, 2013, 11:46:15 PM »
I'd just like to add that the Secretary of State today was saying the objective is to degrade Assad's capabilities.  To change the equation so to speak. But as others pointed out, there is not one rebel group. In my opinion the U.S. has got to stop with the philosophy that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". It can be argued that that is how Saddam Hussein came to power as well as how Osama bin Laden and Al Queda grew in the first place.

Furthermore, yes, it is awful what is happening there -- whether killing by "conventional" means or using chemical weapons on civilians. My guess is that a large body of the Syrian population have their political views but would rather just not have this multi-sided civil war and death all around them.  I am not at all confident that even without "boots on the ground" U.S. strikes on Syria are not going to kill MORE innocent people.

And on a final note I'm not (nor am I ever) confident that the decision makers in the executive branch or the legislative branch understand enough of the nuance for this attempt at a "surgical strike" to not just make things worse.
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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #85 on: September 05, 2013, 10:54:34 AM »
Why are we the world police?

 Would Syria help us if our governement was killing us?  Would any of the other countries help us like we help them?

Does Syria even want our help?

If not then we should stay out or do like my brother suggested and turn the country into a parking lot.

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« Reply #86 on: September 05, 2013, 01:03:37 PM »

If not then we should stay out or do like my brother suggested and turn the country into a parking lot.


Do nothing.  Or annihilation.  Pretty bleak binary, there.  :(

Yugoslavia.  Libya.  Our involvement wasn't exactly full out war. Or maybe if some disagrees, and says these were wars, well at least they weren't very long. There were operation related air crashes in Yugoslavia but officially no NATO combat casualties.
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Re: Syrian Civil War
« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2013, 10:11:52 PM »
If Assad was overthrown, are these the folks to take over?  These people are no better, really.  This just reminds me of arming and training Bin Laden and the Taliaban.  Or, giving support to Saddam to fight Iran.  If the strikes caused Assad to fall, wouldn't we just end up with a regime just as bad?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/05/world/middleeast/brutality-of-syrian-rebels-pose-dilemma-in-west.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2013, 10:42:56 AM »
I actually dont know what the f*ck we are doing now. I'm starting to sense incompetence and mission creep.

Would it be too damn much for 'Bama to go primetime tv for a few minutes and explain to us exactly what he wants and intends to do?
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« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2013, 10:45:59 AM »

Would it be too damn much for 'Bama to go primetime tv for a few minutes and explain to us exactly what he wants and intends to do?

He's already scheduled to do that on Tuesday I think. PLEASE KEEP UP.
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« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2013, 10:55:07 AM »
He's already scheduled to do that on Tuesday I think. PLEASE KEEP UP.

Oh lovely! then only 3 more days of WH staff contradicting each other and rampant shoulder shrugging and eyes glazing over.
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« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2013, 10:58:53 AM »
Oh lovely! then only 3 more days of WH staff contradicting each other and rampant shoulder shrugging and eyes glazing over.

So you openly admit that your grasp of the facts is lacking? Fascinating.
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« Reply #92 on: September 07, 2013, 11:18:37 AM »
Im not supporting this war but there are a few things I have noticed about our president .

He is crazy like a fox and has always been several steps ahead of any thing his detractors or people who wish to stand in his way . He stands back with cool calm dignity while others muddy themselves and shows their hand . I think his instincts have served him well so far in every tough fight he has found himself in .

I am a pacifist at heart and have trouble comprehending war as a solution to a problem and off hand I would say World War 2 was the exception in my mind .   

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« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2013, 11:23:55 AM »
So you openly admit that your grasp of the facts is lacking? Fascinating.

Since you bring it up, what exactly are the facts?
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« Reply #94 on: September 07, 2013, 11:29:23 AM »
Since you bring it up, what exactly are the facts?

That a speech will be given on Tuesday, which you criticized as being non-existent, because obviously your brain has been marinating in tequila all week.
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« Reply #95 on: September 07, 2013, 11:31:27 AM »


I am a pacifist at heart and have trouble comprehending war as a solution to a problem and off hand I would say World War 2 was the exception in my mind .

I was supporting bama and Kerry, but now that all this time has evolved and Assad has hidden his weapons ad command, etc... Im wondering if it still is prudent to strike.

But at what point do we strike? What if he uses chemical weapons again and a third time etc and kills 5000 and more?

and then theoretically do we strike if he uses small yield Nukes?

Is ther another line? or no lines at all now?
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« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2013, 11:33:17 AM »
Wow. Now Assad has gone NEW-klee-AHR? That's how you say it in Texas amirite?
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« Reply #97 on: September 07, 2013, 11:36:15 AM »
Wow. Now Assad has gone NEW-klee-AHR? That's how you say it in Texas amirite?

Do you have any grasp of what "theoretically" means? If not please google

Also, since you are in a commenting mood, where is your line on this issue?
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« Reply #98 on: September 07, 2013, 11:47:30 AM »
I was supporting bama and Kerry, but now that all this time has evolved and Assad has hidden his weapons ad command, etc... Im wondering if it still is prudent to strike.

But at what point do we strike? What if he uses chemical weapons again and a third time etc and kills 5000 and more?

and then theoretically do we strike if he uses small yield Nukes?

Is ther another line? or no lines at all now?

I really don't know the answers to these questions but my feelings are all deeply uneasy about our country attacking sovereign nations when they haven't directly threatened us .


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« Reply #99 on: September 07, 2013, 01:31:56 PM »
Wow. Now Assad has gone NEW-klee-AHR? That's how you say it in Texas amirite?

According to former president Dubya: New-kew-ler

 


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