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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #100 on: November 22, 2013, 07:21:45 PM »
MissP is about due for a dose anyways.

Why bring me into this? That is just so rude and I am offended. What does this even mean? I asked wolftie a legitimate questions about flipping because the post I initially referenced was somewhat vague and I didn't understand the meaning.

You really need to stop playing games with people here.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #101 on: November 25, 2013, 03:23:37 AM »
Wolf I apologize if I offended you.  At times I forget you have a delicate disposition and clearly my "nature" conflicts with that. I will bow out of this thread and take my ribbing elsewhere... MissP is about due for a dose anyways.

keep up the good work though, I will watch your progress from the sidelines.

Btw, I've seen plenty of trailers on sales lot here that are 10 times nicer than my house, and that I would have no probs living in.

-Will



Wolf I apologize if I offended you.  At times I forget you have a delicate disposition and clearly my "nature" conflicts with that. I will bow out of this thread and take my ribbing elsewhere... MissP is about due for a dose anyways.

keep up the good work though, I will watch your progress from the sidelines.

Btw, I've seen plenty of trailers on sales lot here that are 10 times nicer than my house, and that I would have no probs living in.

-Will

I apologize since some of your aren't aware of all I'm dealing with.  As I read through this thread and I am totally apologetic .  I've tried to understand humor in the scope of illness and death.  I hope you can all understand ,  my mother was recently diagnosed with the worst case of what's I'm dealing with.  She is a stubborn ass person.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #102 on: January 09, 2014, 03:16:35 PM »
OK, hoping you all might have some expertise in the heating field.  This place has a natural gas furnace that was working great until a couple of days ago.  Lost heat and had to shut the well down and drain the water lines until we get heat back.

I've contacted several furnace repairmen, but imagine....they're all booked up.

the issue:  the pilot light stays lit and fires up properly.  After the combustion chamber get hot, the fan kicks on.  Instantaneously, the flame goes out.  I can relight it over and over but it always shuts off as soon as the fan kicks on.

It appears as if there's some sort of kill switch that is telling the gas to shut off.  Any knowledge out there?

Wolfie
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Offline tednlou2

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #103 on: January 09, 2014, 03:41:56 PM »
OK, hoping you all might have some expertise in the heating field.  This place has a natural gas furnace that was working great until a couple of days ago.  Lost heat and had to shut the well down and drain the water lines until we get heat back.

I've contacted several furnace repairmen, but imagine....they're all booked up.

the issue:  the pilot light stays lit and fires up properly.  After the combustion chamber get hot, the fan kicks on.  Instantaneously, the flame goes out.  I can relight it over and over but it always shuts off as soon as the fan kicks on.

It appears as if there's some sort of kill switch that is telling the gas to shut off.  Any knowledge out there?

Wolfie

This sounds very similar to what we experienced.  It would kick on and then shut down.  One chamber wasn't lighting, due to the chamber rusting through.  I think there are 3 or 4 chambers.  It is designed to shut down, if all chambers don't light.  Otherwise, you have gas coming out with no flame burning it in that chamber.  Good protection. 

We were told by 2 HVAC guys that it would cost like $1,000 to fix.  I think that was due to the age of the furnace.  It was about 25 years old.  We opted to just upgrade.  Hopefully, that won't be the case with you and they can fix it and maybe yours is a totally different issue.  But, if it is older, they said this is a common issue. 

Offline wolfter

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #104 on: January 09, 2014, 03:53:51 PM »
This furnace has a single combustion chamber.  The home is 14 years old and the furnace worked fine until this happened.  It wasn't used for almost 3 years and I had it serviced after I bought the place.  It's strange as the pilot stays lit until the blower kicks on.  I don't know if there's some sort of relay that tells the pilot to shut down.  I'm googling like hell.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #105 on: January 09, 2014, 04:10:41 PM »
That happened to my water heater and the repair guy said some thingamajiggy went bad . Hope this helps .

Offline tednlou2

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #106 on: January 09, 2014, 04:22:32 PM »
You may have already found this.  I googled too. 

"It can be one of two things. A limit is being tripped and killing 24v to the gas valve and bringing on the blower or you have a crack or hole in your heat exchanger and when the blower kicks on it blows the flame away from the flame sensor. In any case it could be dangerous and you would want to get the system checked out."

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/heating-air-conditioning/furnace-lights-has-flame-but-shuts-off-when-blower-starts-413424.html

This also talks about flame sensor with pics.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23422513



Offline wolfter

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #107 on: January 09, 2014, 04:23:48 PM »
That happened to my water heater and the repair guy said some thingamajiggy went bad . Hope this helps .

I found several thingamajiggies, just don't know to test them.   ;D
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #108 on: January 09, 2014, 04:30:14 PM »
Im going out on a limb here because I do not know the right terms . Sounds like the pilot light thing is going bad and that's the problem . I had to light my water heater about 3 times a week before I figured out the wind in my attic was not the problem as I assumed .

Offline wolfter

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #109 on: January 09, 2014, 04:34:00 PM »
You may have already found this.  I googled too. 

"It can be one of two things. A limit is being tripped and killing 24v to the gas valve and bringing on the blower or you have a crack or hole in your heat exchanger and when the blower kicks on it blows the flame away from the flame sensor. In any case it could be dangerous and you would want to get the system checked out."

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/heating-air-conditioning/furnace-lights-has-flame-but-shuts-off-when-blower-starts-413424.html

This also talks about flame sensor with pics.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23422513

thanks for the link.  I already tested the thermostat and eliminated that.  I'm suspecting something is killing the voltage causing the pilot to immediately extinguish.  Oh well, I'll just use the fireplace when I'm there and wait on the repairman. 
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #110 on: January 09, 2014, 04:43:32 PM »
  I don't know if there's some sort of relay that tells the pilot to shut down.  I'm googling like hell.


Hey Greg,...

A couple things here.  First, you may want to see if you can adjust the pilot light flame. Most of these are adjustable, and you may have to turn it up a little.  If you look at the pilot light, there should be a small gas line, running from the pilot light to another small gas control unit.  There should be a small slotted screw, that is used to adjust ONLY the pilot light flame height. It should be marked.

Second. Connected closely to the pilot flame ( In fact it is probably partially in the pilot light flame, is a small rod. ( about 1 1/2 inches long, and smaller in diameter than a pencil )

This rod is the thermocouple, that turns the flame off ( cuts the gas, to the pilot), should the flame become extinguished, for whatever reason. Once the flame goes out, the rod cools and causes the control mechanism, to stop feeding gas to the pilot.  Older furnaces ( many years ago) never had these, in which case, should the flame go out, there would be a small amount of gas leaking.

The thermocouple has a small line that runs to the gas control unit also.


The 3 things I would check, is two make sure the flame is adjusted properly on the pilot light, and that the thermocouple is functioning properly.

I would also check all access panels to make sure they are secured properly.  Seems to me, that I remember a shield of sorts around the pilot light, to help prevent the flame from going out. I would look for any possible missing sheilds or deflectors, around the pilot light

If any of the above is unfamiliar , then you really need to call someone to check the pilot flame and thermocouple. You don't need an explosion!!  :o


Pilot light thermocouple:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNd2TAddg78


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Offline wolfter

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #111 on: January 09, 2014, 04:48:31 PM »
thanks Ray.  I'm going to change the thermocouple first.  I doubted it was the problem since it does light.  Normally, a pilot won't stay lit at all once it fails.  For no more than it costs, it's worth trying.  This unit doesn't have an adjustable pilot.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #112 on: January 09, 2014, 04:52:45 PM »


By the way, Gas hot water tanks have this thermocouple also.  It's code.


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 As of DEC 9th, 2013,  t-cells are at 437 Viral load  <40 .

 Current % is at 16% (L)

  
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #113 on: January 09, 2014, 04:54:27 PM »

By the way, Gas hot water tanks have this thermocouple also.  It's code.


Ray

You sir are making me look bad with all your fancy correct information  .  ;)

Offline wolfter

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #114 on: January 10, 2014, 12:19:14 PM »
The repairman discovered the problem.  There is in fact a slight crack in the combustion chamber.  I made the problem worse by turning the heat down below 50 while not there.  When it suddenly got so cold, it was sucking too much air, thereby putting out the flame.

Because it's warmer, he was able to get it going again.  He says as long as I don't turn the heat down that low again, it should last through the season.  It'll be cheaper to replace it in the Spring as opposed to now.

I'm considering converting it to electric anyways. 
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #115 on: February 26, 2014, 03:08:12 PM »
Here are the latest pictures of the place.  I have the front rooms and one bathroom capable of being used.  I can tolerate painted subfloors until I get everything else done.  I have a pair of devoted slippers while hanging out there.

I divided the LR into several different areas.  That is too large for one room.  It also has a decent sized DR that I'll just put a more formal set that'll seldom be used.  My next goal upon healing is the floors.  In the mean time, it's relaxing to have a place to hang out and be alone.  :)







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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #116 on: February 26, 2014, 03:29:38 PM »
That's a big space Greg! Looking forward to seeing the flooring.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #117 on: February 26, 2014, 04:50:21 PM »
where do the double doors lead?

you should provide us floor plans LOL

that place is looking SO much nicer. You have done a lot of very good work!
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #118 on: February 28, 2014, 09:52:33 AM »
where do the double doors lead?

you should provide us floor plans LOL

that place is looking SO much nicer. You have done a lot of very good work!

Those lead to the master suite.  That entire area measures 28' x 16' so I should be able to end up with a fabulous master closet.  I will custom build it.  I can't afford my desired cherry wood so I'll use birch with a cherry stain.  That area had the worst damage and I had to gut it to the joists but already have the subfloors all reinstalled. 

I had a foundation expert over a couple of days ago.  I wasn't sure why so much of the trim had come loose and was afraid of settling.  He said it was perfect and a lot of the issues probably arose from sitting empty with no heat for so long...thank goodness.  More money saved.  :)  I'm happy beyond belief that all the mechanicals were fine and simply needed servicing.

I already bought the components for my dry bar.  That large alcove in one picture will house a fabulous bar area. 

My dream was always to rehab an old Victorian or farmhouse, and this actually taught me a lot. 

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #119 on: March 10, 2014, 05:01:58 PM »
WOW you have had a major project on your hands.  The place looks huge!  Just a matter of weeks and you will have those windows open to let in the warm spring air. 

 


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