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Offline wolfter

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Finally made the plunge
« on: August 27, 2013, 12:05:55 PM »
Finally put an offer in on a property that was surprisingly accepted by the seller.  He retired to Florida 3 years ago and is elderly.  This place has sat for over 3 years falling into disrepair. 

My realtor is probably happier than I am.  I finally accepted that I'd have to settle and not get what I had my heart set on.  I'm 2 blocks off the lake  :( but it's only a short walk.  But at least I have boat access. 

It's not a brick and mortar home either.  Another disappointment.  It's a huge double wide on a raised foundation that's about 15 years old.  It sets on 3 lots which is rare this close to the lake.

The greatest news is that I was able to put a substantial amount down and got creative with financing.  I was approved for an unsecured loan for the balance so I'll end up with a clear deed.  This allows me to not pay the ridiculous flood insurance premium.  I go to the bank at 1:30 today to do the final signature and pick up the check.

It's all been kinda strange as we've been in direct communication with the seller.  My ultimate goal is to either put some sweat equity into the place and turn it for a nice profit and buy my dream home, or maybe build one on the side lot and rent the existing doublewide.  I've certainly got my work cut out for me but am also quite excited.

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2013, 12:33:22 PM »
at first reading of the title, I was afraid you had fallen yet again. :o Don't laugh! ::) With you, anything is possible. LOL Speaking of which, how are the burns?

now that I've read this piece though, let me say CONGRATS!  ;D
(even if it does sound like you're piling enough more work onto yourself) :o
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2013, 12:43:59 PM »
at first reading of the title, I was afraid you had fallen yet again. :o Don't laugh! ::) With you, anything is possible. LOL Speaking of which, how are the burns?


SSH now, I've quit sharing my accidents/injuries here.   ;D  The burns are healing quite nicely.  I shared with Mitchy though about smacking my face the day before yesterday.  During humid days, I usually have to jerk the storage shed door pretty hard.  Well, I did just that and it opened freely and smacked me right in the face...lol  Thankfully, I own several pair of glasses exactly for events like this.  At least when I fell in the huge hole, I wasn't injured thanks to it being filled with mud and water.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2013, 12:45:52 PM »

now that I've read this piece though, let me say CONGRATS!  ;D
(even if it does sound like you're piling enough more work onto yourself) :o

It's kinda strange that I have more energy now than any previous period in my life.  I don't know if it was the back to back episodes of being laid up for so long?  It's like I need to be productive every moment of every day.  Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2013, 12:58:06 PM »
It's like I need to be productive every moment of every day.  Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
sounds like you need counseling. LOL  :-*
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2013, 01:08:55 PM »
sounds like you need counseling. LOL  :-*

Probably, but I haven't seen my regular bartender for a while.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2013, 02:21:07 PM »
Congratulations on your plans for a new home . I always look forward to moving into a new space in the past because I enjoy the process of making it my own .

We will need a pictorial update on your progress ! .   

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2013, 05:33:07 PM »
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2013, 06:29:47 PM »
That's fantastic news.Enjoy your new home.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2013, 07:37:12 PM »
I've seen some of your handy work Wolfie so I know you have the talent to make this into a great home..keep busy but for God sake stay away from nail guns..oh no wait a minute it's OK, thank God the life insurance policy I have out on you covers those nasty things. ;)

Look forward to seeing some photo's.

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2013, 10:09:53 PM »
..keep busy but for God sake stay away from nail guns..

LOL but at the same time, my coworker's husband, in some freak action, shot himself in the chest with a nail gun last week and punctured his lung, barely missing his heart, so please take Jan's advice and stick to hammers!

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2013, 08:12:59 AM »

During humid days, I usually have to jerk the storage shed door pretty hard.  Well, I did just that and it opened freely and smacked me right in the face...lol 


I did that once, and gave myself a multicoloured black-eye on Christmas Eve. Admittedly I'd just come home from the pub after having a few, which made me forget that the front door was sticky due to dampness. I unlocked the door and it stuck after opening about a foot, and I smashed my face right into it. Luckily I was wearing contacts instead of my glasses. Good times! lol



Be careful with the nail-gun. Be careful with that hammer - watch those thumbs! Get someone else to deal with the nails!!!! ;D

As for saws..... ::) God help you!

Hope everything goes well with the new place!
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2013, 08:37:13 AM »
Thanks all.  I'm several steps closer, but we ran into a snafu.  I went to pay all the back taxes on the property (almost $10,000) and was informed they couldn't accept the payment from me since the property has already been filed for tax foreclosure.  We need to pay the tax and court costs via certified bank checks only with those checks being issued in the current owner's name.

He contacted the treasurer's office yesterday and they'll give him an exact amount that needs remitted.  He is also checking to see if he can issue a power of attorney for the purpose of paying the taxes.  The only other option is to wire him the money and have him overnight certified checks.  That option has me really concerned and I'll seek legal advice before proceeding with that.

Once that is done, it's a simple quit claim and I can immediately put the deed in my name. 

@ Ann, I might have been arriving home from the pub too.... :)  Surprisingly, I have never had a major construction accident.  But I do have a steadfast rule, no alcohol ever if I'm using anything that has to be plugged in.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2013, 09:18:28 AM »

But I do have a steadfast rule, no alcohol ever if I'm using anything that has to be plugged in.

Good thing vibrators are battery-operated, eh? ;D
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2013, 09:20:53 AM »
Good thing vibrators are battery-operated, eh? ;D

Puleze, I'm still young enough and cute enough to not need such a thing.  All I need to do is hang out at a straight bar at closing time.   :o
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2013, 09:56:36 AM »
 " @ Ann, I might have been arriving home from the pub too.... :)  Surprisingly, I have never had a major construction accident.  But I do have a steadfast rule, no alcohol ever if I'm using anything that has to be plugged in. "


  Oh Dear ! That makes for bland sex   :-X

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2013, 11:00:12 AM »
OK, I'm being so unproductive just sitting here anxiously awaiting the phone call.  It's time to go do something...anything.  I have 2 different decks I'm building for people and I'll go finish one.  It only needs the railing installed.  Good thing they let me work within my timeline.   8)

I might post pictures of these as it's the first time I've added some additional creative features.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2013, 05:22:59 PM »
Got er done today!!!!   I made the seller provide a notarized statement that he did not rent or give authorization for anyone to live in the home.  One of our post members has been squatting there for a while now I guess.  Even had telephone service recently installed...imagine. 

He asked if I would be gracious enough to give him 2 weeks to get out.  He "allowed" me to tour the inside of the place.  Surprisingly better than I imagined, but still filthy.  Obviously, all new flooring and some serious bleach cleaning and paint.  And the yard is atrocious.  He had the nerve to tell me that he preferred that I not take pictures of the inside.  I'm being more passive than ever as I don't want a battle to have him removed.

Here are the before pics.  I certainly hope to post some new and improved ones soon.












I am so nervous, yet excited about the entire adventure.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2013, 05:28:12 PM »
Very well done ! . Just remember , no upholstered furniture on the front porch . 

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2013, 05:29:29 PM »
By the time you are finished with it Wolfie it will be a dream home, look forward to updated photo's once you get started.

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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2013, 05:33:39 PM »
Very well done ! . Just remember , no upholstered furniture on the front porch .

UM, didn't you notice there's already a sofa there?  I actually kinda felt bad as I wouldn't touch anything.  I had him turn all the door knobs to each room and I only glanced into them.  Luckily, I still have several pair of sweats that I can burn after each night of cleaning.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2013, 05:34:48 PM »
By the time you are finished with it Wolfie it will be a dream home, look forward to updated photo's once you get started.

Aroha
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Thanks darlin.  I'm heading over tomorrow to start on the outside.  Probably a good solid week to get that all cleaned up.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2013, 05:40:43 PM »
Congrats Greg!
Hey, what's up with the 2 barns?
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2013, 05:45:25 PM »
Congrats Greg!
Hey, what's up with the 2 barns?

I know!!!   I absolutely hate that.  I'm moving the smaller one around back for equipment storage.  The other one is huge and will make an awesome work shop.  That's gonna be my first priority so all my projects will be perfectly facilitated.  I tend to go OCD a bit on planning.
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2013, 05:48:39 PM »
I know!!!   I absolutely hate that.  I'm moving the smaller one around back for equipment storage.  The other one is huge and will make an awesome work shop.  That's gonna be my first priority so all my projects will be perfectly facilitated.  I tend to go OCD a bit on planning.

I thought one would be for clothing storage. ;D
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2013, 05:53:14 PM »
I thought one would be for clothing storage. ;D

Nope, the 3rd smaller bedroom is adjacent to the master walk in closet.  A little simple reconfiguration and I can have the closet room of my dreams.  Complete with a lighted vanity station and amplification mirrors. :o  Oh, and of course a floor to ceiling shoe rack several feet wide.
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2013, 06:00:51 PM »
What sort of body parts is the current tenant storing in the large barn?
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2013, 08:32:19 PM »
You need to make sure there isnt a meth lab in that barn storage shed.
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2013, 10:26:31 PM »
Congrats Wolfie....  can't wait to hear the renovation stories........ 

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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2013, 10:28:36 PM »
Nope, the 3rd smaller bedroom is adjacent to the master walk in closet.  A little simple reconfiguration and I can have the closet room of my dreams.  Complete with a lighted vanity station and amplification mirrors. :o  Oh, and of course a floor to ceiling shoe rack several feet wide.

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« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2013, 03:59:09 AM »
I did the wolfie thing this evening.  I felt bad for squarters  until I was told I couldn't take picss   After wanting to be frisked several more times, I gave him a break.   I have squatters and I had to prove I own the property. 
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2013, 06:40:33 AM »
I was just reading in a novel - and also in a NYtimes article about Detroit - if a squatter pays property taxes on an abandoned house - THEY own the property. Let's hope his name wasn't on any of those checks. In any event - it doesn't take two weeks to pack. Good luck!
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« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2013, 07:50:40 AM »
I did the wolfie thing this evening.  I felt bad for squarters  until I was told I couldn't take picss   After wanting to be frisked several more times, I gave him a break.   I have squatters and I had to prove I own the property. 

Im intrigued ... please tell us more about the squatters , you left me wanting more .   

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What a beautiful house. Enjoy the adventure!
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« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2013, 12:07:39 PM »
Im intrigued ... please tell us more about the squatters , you left me wanting more .

someone called the police on me last night.   >:(  When I visited the property yesterday afternoon, the drunken squatters made me nervous.  I can't obtain insurance until next week since my agent indicates I don't have an insurable interest yet.  I was simply doing a security check on MY property....lol

This same fool was investigated when his own home was foreclosed on.   Within mere minutes of him leaving, and taking his dog for a walk, it went up in flames.
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« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2013, 02:16:38 PM »
I was just reading in a novel - and also in a NYtimes article about Detroit - if a squatter pays property taxes on an abandoned house - THEY own the property. Let's hope his name wasn't on any of those checks. In any event - it doesn't take two weeks to pack. Good luck!

Luckily, the only squatter's right in Ohio pertain to someone using a property for more than 21 years and then can claim a legal ownership to the property.  I wrongly have used this term myself.  This would only be a case of tenant's rights which they have none.  It's their responsibility to prove they had a legal right to be there which they didn't. 

I remitted almost $10,000 in back taxes to be able to clear them and be able to transfer the deed.  They've not paid one dime since just helping themselves to the property.  The Sheriff's office said I could have them forced immediately.  Since I've known the parties involved for quite a while, I again agreed to two weeks. 
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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2013, 12:50:39 PM »
I'm such an idiot, I thought Thursday would be the 2 weeks since I gave them the notice,  It's actually today.  Will be heading over there shortly.  Hoping they left it unlocked as we don't have keys yet.  Rec'd the deed yesterday so I'm all good to go as long as they don't attempt something funky.
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« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2013, 04:38:03 PM »
I'm such an idiot, I thought Thursday would be the 2 weeks since I gave them the notice,  It's actually today.  Will be heading over there shortly.  Hoping they left it unlocked as we don't have keys yet.  Rec'd the deed yesterday so I'm all good to go as long as they don't attempt something funky.

Update please. Hope all went well! :)
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« Reply #40 on: September 11, 2013, 05:33:06 PM »
Update please. Hope all went well! :)

Yes ^ this ^.  I was thinking the same thing last night, but figured I'd be patient.  Now I need to know what went down!!!

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« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2013, 09:08:52 AM »
I'm suffering a bit today thanks to being angry and thinking I was still a young thug.  ;)  Thankfully, I'm related to the leadership of the police department and my step father was a retired deputy. 

I was given the option of pressing charges last night after being attacked.  I declined as I  choose to deal with these types of situations differently.  The one idiot tackled be from behind as I was walking away.  I ended up having him in a head lock that could have resulted in him having a broken neck if he resisted.

This has gotten way uglier than I imagined.  Sorry for their situation, but it is what it is.

Wolfie, who once again has an ankle that is bruised, swollen and bleeding. 

Oh yeah, did I need to disclose even though I was attacked?  :)
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« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2013, 09:32:57 AM »
Yikes!
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« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2013, 09:36:08 AM »
Yikes!

I was admonished also.  supposedly, it's best to deal with these situations while totally sober...lol 
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« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2013, 09:39:57 AM »
So I take it he/they aren't moved out yet?

ps- I think it's best for the police to handle this.
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« Reply #45 on: September 12, 2013, 09:49:21 AM »
They will be out today.  ;)  I could have done it last night but deputy Ron ( who has now touched me twice and I liked it) suggested waiting til this morning.  Shall be heading that way soon.  And thanks to CCW, I shall have extra protection ;)
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« Reply #46 on: September 12, 2013, 05:51:57 PM »
Will be thinking of you Wolfie....  make sure to rely on the police to do their job here.  No more broken bones allowed!!!!

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« Reply #47 on: September 12, 2013, 05:59:26 PM »
Thanks Mike.  My uncle made contact with them this morning.  They agreed to be out today and are calling him when they are finished to let me know it's done.  I wanted the Sheriff's department involved, but they indicated it was more appropriate for the local PD.  I just didn't want it to look as if I was receiving special treatment.

He has also advised his officers to make continuous drive-bys.  He said he'd turn the keys over to me as if I'll use them.  Already have new locks and dead bolts ready to install.
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« Reply #48 on: September 12, 2013, 07:08:01 PM »
deputy Ron ( who has now touched me twice and I liked it)
gotta love a man in uniform

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« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2013, 09:54:32 AM »
How about an update Wolfe ? . How is the new place coming along ?

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« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2013, 10:14:12 AM »
I'm stressed beyond belief about the entire situation.  I had to have an evening out yesterday to forget about it all.  I still have trashy squatters that I will be dealing with today.  I've went from having deep compassion for someone about to be homeless to having hatred.  I absolutely hate that feeling.

I'm thinking I made yet another great mistake in life as I don't even anticipate enjoying any aspect of this.  I've been so stressed about it all that even I realize I've become too thin.  I've not been able to eat due to stress (long term pattern) and I simply don't generally feel well.

As I was typing this, I rec'd a phone call from the guy I bought this place from.  He wants to know when I plan on switching the electricity into my name.  He's getting annoyed as I told him I have no such plans.  I might own the property, but I'm not required to have electricity in my name.  I just paid a 3 month water and sewer bill as that's attached to the property and therefore is my responsibility and I'll be damned if I pay anything unrelated.

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« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2013, 10:16:27 AM »
I thought the sheriff was putting the illegal tenants out last week . What a mess . 

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« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2013, 10:22:41 AM »
They will put them out on the spot, but I keep being too nice.  They keep promising "just one more day".  These people are associated/related to people within my circle of acquaintances and I was trying to be compassionate but it has turned out that I'm simply a chump.

I'm deeply sickened at the thought of what I'm doing today but I have no choice.  I can't continue paying the costs for other men to live. 
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As I was typing this, I rec'd a phone call from the guy I bought this place from.  He wants to know when I plan on switching the electricity into my name.  He's getting annoyed as I told him I have no such plans. 

I dont uderstand, all he has to do is call the electric company and stop the service since its in his name. Has he been paying for the squatters electric? Also if there was no electricity wouldn't the squatters leave?

I too thought all the sheriffs or whatever got them out a week ago.

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« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2013, 10:28:23 AM »
I dont uderstad, all he has to do is call the electric company and stop the service since its in his name. HAs he been paying for the squatters electric? Also if there was no electricity wouldnt the squatters leave?

I too thought all the sheriffs or whatever got them out a week ago.

Im getting lost

That's why I told him.  Simply shut the damn utilities off.  If he wants to be financially responsible, that's on him.  When I went there with the PD, I was convinced to give them a couple more days to get out.  I'm stressing about returning with the police again as I don't want to witness someone being thrown out.  I struggling with the entire anger/compassion thingy.
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« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2013, 10:49:56 AM »
  I'm stressing about returning with the police again as I don't want to witness someone being thrown out.  I struggling with the entire anger/compassion thingy.

Didnt these people just assault you and cause injury? I really think the time for compassion has passed.
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« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2013, 02:14:44 PM »
The deed is done.  I could barely stay in there long enough to take photos.  Had to come home in order to change into some of the sweat pants that I will gladly throw away after cleaning this sty.  For your pleasure, have included a few.











  It already comes with furniture...lol

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« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2013, 02:29:09 PM »
You will have it shined up in no time I'm sure .

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« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2013, 02:34:55 PM »
Heading to Lowes now to pick up supplies and new locks.  Goodness, what have I gotten myself into?
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« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2013, 02:36:36 PM »
Just remember , Home is where you drag it .

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« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2013, 03:34:59 PM »
I see the Salt Lick SWAT team swooped in suddenly and cleared out all of the miscreants.
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« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2013, 04:19:27 PM »
Congrats Greg!
Celebrate by eating.
Are you really tossing out those lovely furnishings?
I'm happy for you and I know you will make it into your own comfy abode.
Still want to hear how it went today prying them out of there.
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« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2013, 05:34:24 PM »
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« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2013, 05:48:57 PM »
Happy that you have your place now!!  You were far more compassionate then most would have been.  Can't wait to see your progress as you turn this into "Greg's Place".

Only one pair of sweatpants??  don't you need a different outfit for each room (plus one for each trip to Lowes's)??   ;)

Celebrate with a nice meal!!  you must eat

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« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2013, 11:47:57 AM »
I tried googling, but I figure you all might have knowledge.  I spent the entire evening just doing the first cleaning in the kitchen.  My mother spent the entire evening cleaning one bathroom while my sister-in-law spent her time doing the other one.  My dear brother ran the wet vac for several hours.

Anyways, under the kitchen sink, we found around 15 instant coffee jars with a black residue in them.  There were also several jars of tongue depressors (Popsicle) sticks.  along with the razor blades all over the place led us to believe this was drug paraphernalia. 

OH, and here is what 6 hours in one room does.  I'm quite surprised that it was mostly filth.




OH, they also stole the appliances but I'm actually happy about that.  I can't imagine how nasty they would have been. 
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« Reply #65 on: September 20, 2013, 12:00:02 PM »
I'm not trying to be a smartass or anything, but considering the caliber of the formerly illegal occupants I might be tempted to have an exterminator come over and give the place a once over. The last thing you want to discover once you move furniture in are bedbugs.

I wonder if that black residue is this.
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« Reply #66 on: September 20, 2013, 12:00:49 PM »
Good Job Wolfie ! . I once bought a repo mobile home and it was so filthy I spent weeks making it right and longer than that to do the repairs . There were 11 fry daddy deep fryers under the cabinets in the kitchen and I had to use a product to degrease car engines to cut the kitchen grease that over every surface .   

I had to use a yard rake on the floors before I ever thought about vacuuming , that and cut gummy bears out of the carpet with scissors  .     

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« Reply #67 on: September 20, 2013, 12:14:36 PM »
I'm not trying to be a smartass or anything, but considering the caliber of the formerly illegal occupants I might be tempted to have an exterminator come over and give the place a once over. The last thing you want to discover once you move furniture in are bedbugs.

I wonder if that black residue is this.

I don't find anything smartass about that comment as I've been told the same thing by everyone who has stopped by.  I already set off 12 bombs that are supposed to kill any critters.  It's kinda sad that we swept all the carpets to simply prepare to rip them all out. 

I should have taken pictures of me stripping on the porch last night as I placed my clothing in plastic bags.  Of course, I immediately showered then went back outside and watched said bag burn in the fire pit as I sipped some refreshments.

I suspected black tar heroin as there were little black dropplets all around the place. 
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« Reply #68 on: September 20, 2013, 12:20:54 PM »
Good Job Wolfie ! . I once bought a repo mobile home and it was so filthy I spent weeks making it right and longer than that to do the repairs . There were 11 fry daddy deep fryers under the cabinets in the kitchen and I had to use a product to degrease car engines to cut the kitchen grease that over every surface .   

I had to use a yard rake on the floors before I ever thought about vacuuming , that and cut gummy bears out of the carpet with scissors  .   

:)  We actually did that too.  My brother suggesting bringing a leaf rake and we quickly discovered we needed a garden rake.  The funniest aspect of the entire evening was watching the reactions of others each time they found something gross.  In one of the bedrooms, my brother discovered a pile of shit (hopefully from the dog) that he promptly declared that I did in deed have "squatters"...lmao
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« Reply #69 on: September 20, 2013, 12:24:01 PM »
Just wait until you see what under the carpet , wear a respirator . 

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I'm sure I've read that bombs aren't effective for bed bugs -- is that right or wrong?
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I'm sure I've read that bombs aren't effective for bed bugs -- is that right or wrong?

I'm not well versed in this, but I don't think the bombs kill bed bugs.  I was fearful of fleas and roaches which surprisingly, we saw no evidence of. 

I've been calculating what it'll cost to replace all the floor surfaces.  I can put down laminate floors for around $2,000 which qualifies for 6 months, interest free.  that's still over $300 a month.  Yikes.
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« Reply #72 on: September 20, 2013, 02:33:12 PM »
I'm sure I've read that bombs aren't effective for bed bugs -- is that right or wrong?

I think I read that too.  For bedbugs you need a pro exterminator,

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« Reply #74 on: September 20, 2013, 07:48:24 PM »
I'm definitely convinced some drug activity was happening there.  I had the radio blasting while bleach cleaning with the doors propped open.  I then heard someone yelling JJ.  Walked into the living room to discover a distressed, crack head looking lady standing in the middle of the room.  All she could keep repeating was she needed to talk to JJ. 

Thinking about posting a sign on the door, something such as "This is now a crack free home".  Or perhaps, "Your dealer has moved to Hebron".
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« Reply #75 on: September 20, 2013, 08:37:53 PM »
I'm definitely convinced some drug activity was happening there.  I had the radio blasting while bleach cleaning with the doors propped open.  I then heard someone yelling JJ.  Walked into the living room to discover a distressed, crack head looking lady standing in the middle of the room.  All she could keep repeating was she needed to talk to JJ. 

Thinking about posting a sign on the door, something such as "This is now a crack free home".  Or perhaps, "Your dealer has moved to Hebron".

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« Reply #76 on: September 20, 2013, 11:31:48 PM »
Have so far managed to get a few layers of grime off of everything.  I'm quite surprised that it's cleaning up a nicely as it is.  I expected to have to replace all the cabinets, now I'm thinking just counter tops.



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« Reply #77 on: September 21, 2013, 12:16:09 AM »
that's the same pix you posted 12 hours ago. LOL
(use a flash maybe to cut some of that yellow coloration ;) )

you are using adequate ventilation with your cleansers I hope. I do know someone (my mom's best friend's son) who passed away one night after having been in a closed up mobile home cleaning all day.
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« Reply #78 on: September 21, 2013, 07:48:08 AM »
that's the same pix you posted 12 hours ago. LOL
(use a flash maybe to cut some of that yellow coloration ;) )

you are using adequate ventilation with your cleansers I hope. I do know someone (my mom's best friend's son) who passed away one night after having been in a closed up mobile home cleaning all day.

I really must be getting exhausted.  I thought I posted a different one.  Lordy, I have a difficult enough using the camera portion of my phone without the added stress of learning how to change the settings.

And yes, I'm leaving all the windows and doors open as I'm cleaning.  The entire place now smells of bleach instead of skank. 
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« Reply #79 on: September 21, 2013, 01:57:04 PM »
I bet it won't take long for word to get around that your "drug house" is no longer a drug house. 

 I have friends who bought a house 10 years ago after they got married and when they tore the paneling off the wall coke and meth fell out.  They took it all to the police.  The police knew it used to be a drug house and told them what they could expect to find.  They also had a professional come out and exterminate the place for the meth stuff before and after they did the remodel.

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« Reply #80 on: September 21, 2013, 02:20:45 PM »
If coke and meth started falling out of my walls I'd have a party, not call the police.
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« Reply #81 on: September 21, 2013, 09:23:37 PM »
Where can I get one of these coke trailers?
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« Reply #82 on: September 28, 2013, 09:35:06 PM »
Hoping someone here has some home remedy answers.  My first several days working on the property, I never saw one sign of fleas.  They only seemed to appear after I started ripping the carpet out the Master.

I felt fleas all over my legs and went running out.  I had literally, 100's of them on me.  Obvious more infested than I though.  I immediately went and bought enough foggers for more than twice the amount needed.  Set them off and returned 8 hours later.  It appears to have made no difference.

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« Reply #83 on: September 28, 2013, 09:42:47 PM »
Hoping someone here has some home remedy answers.  My first several days working on the property, I never saw one sign of fleas.  They only seemed to appear after I started ripping the carpet out the Master.

I felt fleas all over my legs and went running out.  I had literally, 100's of them on me.  Obvious more infested than I though.  I immediately went and bought enough foggers for more than twice the amount needed.  Set them off and returned 8 hours later.  It appears to have made no difference.

I'm not walking back in there until I have a game plan.  I develop severe reactions to flea and mosquito bites and have a bunch of little welts over my beautiful legs.

I think boric acid works . Also pot a lamp over a big ass bowl of water and they will jump in and drown . Use a desk type spot light about 12 inches over the water , I promise it works .

The hearts flea spray for carpets and furniture is the cheapest and surprisingly it works well too . 

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« Reply #84 on: September 29, 2013, 04:01:54 AM »
www.stopthefleas.com is a comprehensive site Wolfie, although from reading the thread I think Miss P point about calling in the professionals might be the best move.
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« Reply #85 on: September 29, 2013, 04:14:04 AM »
They mention Boric Acid and under links will take you to the nearest professionals.
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« Reply #86 on: September 29, 2013, 05:55:50 AM »
One of my buddies mentioned boric acid.  He agreed to go over and do his magic for $50 bucks.  SOLD.  When I stopped by again, it was only that one area that has them. 

I walked into every room except the master and didn't see any.  As soon as I went in there, they treated me like a celebrity.
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« Reply #87 on: September 29, 2013, 06:35:14 AM »
Family owns rental properties. Been there, done that.

Fleas are attracted to vibrations. Walking across that carpet is what attracts them to you. Vacuums work wonders. So does the 'death by drowning' Jeff mentions. Foggers will kill them, just not immediately. The sooner you get the carpets out, the less places they have to hide. Expect a new batch in a week or two. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I have to wonder what the crawlspace is like on that. You may need a respirator and hazmat suit to get under there. Winter's coming, make sure your pipes have working heat wraps.

Instead of burning your sweats, consider these. Someone said that Lowe's or Home Depot sells them. Much cheaper than replacing your clothes.
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« Reply #88 on: October 15, 2013, 11:54:16 PM »
I got a new contractor to help with some of the work.  Not sure if I'm more excited about him or the work.   :o  He says he's a reformed Amishite.  He is married with kids, but I totally understood the nuances.  That's a totally different aspect but I suspect I will google amish porn later.  ;)

Anyways, after consulting with him, I'm not sure about knocking out a wall to make a master walk in suite.  I envisioned a cherry line wardrobe area that I could easily hang out in and be comfortable.  He's advising against it as it would reduce the resale value as there aren't many clothes obsessed gay men in the area.  ;(

We started the destruction in order to make it proper. He accomplished this all in one evening.  Of course I provided pizza and beer. 

 



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« Reply #89 on: October 23, 2013, 02:16:56 PM »
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Re: Finally made the plunge
« Reply #90 on: October 23, 2013, 05:12:08 PM »
OK, I can tell by looking at the plumbing that the toilet goes over there in the corner.

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« Reply #91 on: October 23, 2013, 08:44:39 PM »
OK, I can tell by looking at the plumbing that the toilet goes over there in the corner.

Help me out, is this your kitchen?

This is the master bathroom.  I really don't like the idea of having the walk in closet in there...but it's too costly to build a proper sized one.
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« Reply #92 on: November 22, 2013, 05:04:40 AM »
Realized I hadn't updated for a while.  going this weekend to finally get
paint and flooring.  Took this long just to be able to see the under the grime surfaces.  ended up agreeing to carpeting in the bedrooms and laminate in the rest of the place.  Already hired the carpeting guy.

I totally decided a grey on grey scheme for the entire place.  color-blindness has its benefits.  :)  Haven't decided on the grand scope of things, but if it's sold, will make enough to have my legit dream home. 

I will be on the lake one day without renting a boat slip.  I'll have to act quickly as the cheaper, smaller places are selling quickly.  The million dollar homes are out of my age bracket since I'm too old to have a pappy.  :)
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« Reply #93 on: November 22, 2013, 09:47:07 AM »

I totally decided a grey on grey scheme for the entire place.  color-blindness has its benefits.  :)  Haven't decided on the grand scope of things, but if it's sold, will make enough to have my legit dream home. 

I'm confused. Are you flipping this property for something larger now?
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« Reply #94 on: November 22, 2013, 10:05:05 AM »
Is flipping trailers a thing? Maybe you should start a show on Bravo

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« Reply #95 on: November 22, 2013, 01:41:34 PM »
Is flipping trailers a thing? Maybe you should start a show on Bravo

Really?  So many thoughts that I refuse to display.  I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny at my expense or if it's just your nature.  Each time I think we're making progress, you make such asinine comments.  Where are the mods when they think something is over the top?
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« Reply #96 on: November 22, 2013, 01:45:35 PM »
Really?  So many thoughts that I refuse to display.  I'm not sure if you're trying to be funny at my expense or if it's just your nature.  Each time I think we're making progress, you make such asinine comments.  Where are the mods when they think something is over the top?

I think Willy meant no harm Wolfe and I think all of us are happy you are doing something you like doing .

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« Reply #97 on: November 22, 2013, 01:48:36 PM »
I think Willy meant no harm Wolfe and I think all of us are happy you are doing something you like doing .

BS, that was a demeaning comment and I see it for what it is. 
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« Reply #98 on: November 22, 2013, 01:56:44 PM »
BS, that was a demeaning comment and I see it for what it is. 

You are very well liked and I bet Willy will be sorry he offended you although I bet it was good natured ribbing .

My aunt just bought a mobile home and it cost much less than half as much as my house and is twice as nice , I'm a little envious myself and wish I had gone that route instead of living in the city . 

Check out what she bought for $67K , its the 2005 Keller , it never as been lived in and was a demo model   http://sehomesestates.com/?s=keller&submit=Go
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« Reply #99 on: November 22, 2013, 06:02:51 PM »
Wolf I apologize if I offended you.  At times I forget you have a delicate disposition and clearly my "nature" conflicts with that. I will bow out of this thread and take my ribbing elsewhere... MissP is about due for a dose anyways.

keep up the good work though, I will watch your progress from the sidelines.

Btw, I've seen plenty of trailers on sales lot here that are 10 times nicer than my house, and that I would have no probs living in.

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« Reply #100 on: November 22, 2013, 07:21:45 PM »
MissP is about due for a dose anyways.

Why bring me into this? That is just so rude and I am offended. What does this even mean? I asked wolftie a legitimate questions about flipping because the post I initially referenced was somewhat vague and I didn't understand the meaning.

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« Reply #101 on: November 25, 2013, 03:23:37 AM »
Wolf I apologize if I offended you.  At times I forget you have a delicate disposition and clearly my "nature" conflicts with that. I will bow out of this thread and take my ribbing elsewhere... MissP is about due for a dose anyways.

keep up the good work though, I will watch your progress from the sidelines.

Btw, I've seen plenty of trailers on sales lot here that are 10 times nicer than my house, and that I would have no probs living in.

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Wolf I apologize if I offended you.  At times I forget you have a delicate disposition and clearly my "nature" conflicts with that. I will bow out of this thread and take my ribbing elsewhere... MissP is about due for a dose anyways.

keep up the good work though, I will watch your progress from the sidelines.

Btw, I've seen plenty of trailers on sales lot here that are 10 times nicer than my house, and that I would have no probs living in.

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« Reply #102 on: January 09, 2014, 03:16:35 PM »
OK, hoping you all might have some expertise in the heating field.  This place has a natural gas furnace that was working great until a couple of days ago.  Lost heat and had to shut the well down and drain the water lines until we get heat back.

I've contacted several furnace repairmen, but imagine....they're all booked up.

the issue:  the pilot light stays lit and fires up properly.  After the combustion chamber get hot, the fan kicks on.  Instantaneously, the flame goes out.  I can relight it over and over but it always shuts off as soon as the fan kicks on.

It appears as if there's some sort of kill switch that is telling the gas to shut off.  Any knowledge out there?

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« Reply #103 on: January 09, 2014, 03:41:56 PM »
OK, hoping you all might have some expertise in the heating field.  This place has a natural gas furnace that was working great until a couple of days ago.  Lost heat and had to shut the well down and drain the water lines until we get heat back.

I've contacted several furnace repairmen, but imagine....they're all booked up.

the issue:  the pilot light stays lit and fires up properly.  After the combustion chamber get hot, the fan kicks on.  Instantaneously, the flame goes out.  I can relight it over and over but it always shuts off as soon as the fan kicks on.

It appears as if there's some sort of kill switch that is telling the gas to shut off.  Any knowledge out there?

Wolfie

This sounds very similar to what we experienced.  It would kick on and then shut down.  One chamber wasn't lighting, due to the chamber rusting through.  I think there are 3 or 4 chambers.  It is designed to shut down, if all chambers don't light.  Otherwise, you have gas coming out with no flame burning it in that chamber.  Good protection. 

We were told by 2 HVAC guys that it would cost like $1,000 to fix.  I think that was due to the age of the furnace.  It was about 25 years old.  We opted to just upgrade.  Hopefully, that won't be the case with you and they can fix it and maybe yours is a totally different issue.  But, if it is older, they said this is a common issue. 

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« Reply #104 on: January 09, 2014, 03:53:51 PM »
This furnace has a single combustion chamber.  The home is 14 years old and the furnace worked fine until this happened.  It wasn't used for almost 3 years and I had it serviced after I bought the place.  It's strange as the pilot stays lit until the blower kicks on.  I don't know if there's some sort of relay that tells the pilot to shut down.  I'm googling like hell.
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« Reply #105 on: January 09, 2014, 04:10:41 PM »
That happened to my water heater and the repair guy said some thingamajiggy went bad . Hope this helps .

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« Reply #106 on: January 09, 2014, 04:22:32 PM »
You may have already found this.  I googled too. 

"It can be one of two things. A limit is being tripped and killing 24v to the gas valve and bringing on the blower or you have a crack or hole in your heat exchanger and when the blower kicks on it blows the flame away from the flame sensor. In any case it could be dangerous and you would want to get the system checked out."

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/heating-air-conditioning/furnace-lights-has-flame-but-shuts-off-when-blower-starts-413424.html

This also talks about flame sensor with pics.

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« Reply #107 on: January 09, 2014, 04:23:48 PM »
That happened to my water heater and the repair guy said some thingamajiggy went bad . Hope this helps .

I found several thingamajiggies, just don't know to test them.   ;D
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« Reply #108 on: January 09, 2014, 04:30:14 PM »
Im going out on a limb here because I do not know the right terms . Sounds like the pilot light thing is going bad and that's the problem . I had to light my water heater about 3 times a week before I figured out the wind in my attic was not the problem as I assumed .

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« Reply #109 on: January 09, 2014, 04:34:00 PM »
You may have already found this.  I googled too. 

"It can be one of two things. A limit is being tripped and killing 24v to the gas valve and bringing on the blower or you have a crack or hole in your heat exchanger and when the blower kicks on it blows the flame away from the flame sensor. In any case it could be dangerous and you would want to get the system checked out."

http://www.askmehelpdesk.com/heating-air-conditioning/furnace-lights-has-flame-but-shuts-off-when-blower-starts-413424.html

This also talks about flame sensor with pics.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23422513

thanks for the link.  I already tested the thermostat and eliminated that.  I'm suspecting something is killing the voltage causing the pilot to immediately extinguish.  Oh well, I'll just use the fireplace when I'm there and wait on the repairman. 
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« Reply #110 on: January 09, 2014, 04:43:32 PM »
  I don't know if there's some sort of relay that tells the pilot to shut down.  I'm googling like hell.


Hey Greg,...

A couple things here.  First, you may want to see if you can adjust the pilot light flame. Most of these are adjustable, and you may have to turn it up a little.  If you look at the pilot light, there should be a small gas line, running from the pilot light to another small gas control unit.  There should be a small slotted screw, that is used to adjust ONLY the pilot light flame height. It should be marked.

Second. Connected closely to the pilot flame ( In fact it is probably partially in the pilot light flame, is a small rod. ( about 1 1/2 inches long, and smaller in diameter than a pencil )

This rod is the thermocouple, that turns the flame off ( cuts the gas, to the pilot), should the flame become extinguished, for whatever reason. Once the flame goes out, the rod cools and causes the control mechanism, to stop feeding gas to the pilot.  Older furnaces ( many years ago) never had these, in which case, should the flame go out, there would be a small amount of gas leaking.

The thermocouple has a small line that runs to the gas control unit also.


The 3 things I would check, is two make sure the flame is adjusted properly on the pilot light, and that the thermocouple is functioning properly.

I would also check all access panels to make sure they are secured properly.  Seems to me, that I remember a shield of sorts around the pilot light, to help prevent the flame from going out. I would look for any possible missing sheilds or deflectors, around the pilot light

If any of the above is unfamiliar , then you really need to call someone to check the pilot flame and thermocouple. You don't need an explosion!!  :o


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« Reply #111 on: January 09, 2014, 04:48:31 PM »
thanks Ray.  I'm going to change the thermocouple first.  I doubted it was the problem since it does light.  Normally, a pilot won't stay lit at all once it fails.  For no more than it costs, it's worth trying.  This unit doesn't have an adjustable pilot.
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« Reply #112 on: January 09, 2014, 04:52:45 PM »


By the way, Gas hot water tanks have this thermocouple also.  It's code.


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« Reply #113 on: January 09, 2014, 04:54:27 PM »

By the way, Gas hot water tanks have this thermocouple also.  It's code.


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« Reply #114 on: January 10, 2014, 12:19:14 PM »
The repairman discovered the problem.  There is in fact a slight crack in the combustion chamber.  I made the problem worse by turning the heat down below 50 while not there.  When it suddenly got so cold, it was sucking too much air, thereby putting out the flame.

Because it's warmer, he was able to get it going again.  He says as long as I don't turn the heat down that low again, it should last through the season.  It'll be cheaper to replace it in the Spring as opposed to now.

I'm considering converting it to electric anyways. 
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« Reply #115 on: February 26, 2014, 03:08:12 PM »
Here are the latest pictures of the place.  I have the front rooms and one bathroom capable of being used.  I can tolerate painted subfloors until I get everything else done.  I have a pair of devoted slippers while hanging out there.

I divided the LR into several different areas.  That is too large for one room.  It also has a decent sized DR that I'll just put a more formal set that'll seldom be used.  My next goal upon healing is the floors.  In the mean time, it's relaxing to have a place to hang out and be alone.  :)







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« Reply #116 on: February 26, 2014, 03:29:38 PM »
That's a big space Greg! Looking forward to seeing the flooring.
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« Reply #117 on: February 26, 2014, 04:50:21 PM »
where do the double doors lead?

you should provide us floor plans LOL

that place is looking SO much nicer. You have done a lot of very good work!
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« Reply #118 on: February 28, 2014, 09:52:33 AM »
where do the double doors lead?

you should provide us floor plans LOL

that place is looking SO much nicer. You have done a lot of very good work!

Those lead to the master suite.  That entire area measures 28' x 16' so I should be able to end up with a fabulous master closet.  I will custom build it.  I can't afford my desired cherry wood so I'll use birch with a cherry stain.  That area had the worst damage and I had to gut it to the joists but already have the subfloors all reinstalled. 

I had a foundation expert over a couple of days ago.  I wasn't sure why so much of the trim had come loose and was afraid of settling.  He said it was perfect and a lot of the issues probably arose from sitting empty with no heat for so long...thank goodness.  More money saved.  :)  I'm happy beyond belief that all the mechanicals were fine and simply needed servicing.

I already bought the components for my dry bar.  That large alcove in one picture will house a fabulous bar area. 

My dream was always to rehab an old Victorian or farmhouse, and this actually taught me a lot. 

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« Reply #119 on: March 10, 2014, 05:01:58 PM »
WOW you have had a major project on your hands.  The place looks huge!  Just a matter of weeks and you will have those windows open to let in the warm spring air. 

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« Reply #120 on: June 26, 2014, 08:53:42 AM »
My closet update.  I've spent a week now customizing my closet.  I built my own shoe rack that still needs a couple of more shelves added and a casual clothes unit. Not too shabby considering this was a complete tear out and rebuild.

It has been a stressful year, dealing with this place, mom's illness and such.  Several times I was on the verge but somehow dealt with it better than I have in the past.  I even considered selling it as it seemed so daunting.  I also considered taking out a loan so I could pay to have it all completed.

Now that it's pert near done, I am ever so grateful that I didn't have to finance anything.  It feels awesome to have a sense of financial freedom that comes from not having a mortgage or rent payment.  I also petitioned for a tax abatement and was granted one for 2 years.  It's part of a program where they're encouraging people to buy distressed homes and fix them up.  They'll eventually garner more tax revenue in the long run so it benefits everyone.





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« Reply #121 on: June 26, 2014, 09:01:43 AM »
remodeling in our bedrooms - including my closet where some of the improperly installed racks have ripped out of the wall!! - commences next week.... maybe. LOL I still have a ton of cabinet doors to paint in the kitchen; but that shouldn't hinder my brother and his crew from doing the two bed and bath rooms.

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« Reply #122 on: June 26, 2014, 09:15:32 AM »
As I told you Mikey, I was amazed at your recent remodeling projects. 

Another goal I had was to replace all the 80's style, gold plated fixtures.  After an expensive ceiling fan and table lamp, I decided to temporarily fix all the problem gold plated items in the house.  I wanted everything in brushed nickle, but lord it's costly.  I bought several cans of brushed nickle spray paint.

The dining room ceiling is the last one that needs painted but that god awful gold fixture was driving me crazy.  A little paint and I can at least live with it for a while.  More pics for your pleasure.  :)








I just noticed that I need a little more ceiling paint around this fixture.  :(
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« Reply #123 on: June 26, 2014, 10:20:13 AM »
replace all the 80's style, gold plated fixtures.  After an expensive ceiling fan and table lamp, I decided to temporarily fix all the problem gold plated items in the house.  I wanted everything in brushed nickle, but lord it's costly.  I bought several cans of brushed nickle spray paint.
ROFLMAO
we've been changing out those gold fixtures for brushed nickle too! Lord! Are switch plates expensive!!
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« Reply #124 on: June 27, 2014, 10:08:23 AM »
I like the brushed nickel Greg. Great solution!

For some reason I think the pics of your shoes is just the tip of the iceberg. Where are you hiding the rest?
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« Reply #125 on: July 20, 2014, 11:27:18 AM »
Jeff, here are the problem cabinets I was discussing with you.  I HAVE to get rid of the gold inlay design.  I was thinking of maybe just replacing the glass with simple colored glass but if you have any suggestions I'll listen.  Perhaps pay someone to create something unique?



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« Reply #126 on: July 20, 2014, 12:18:26 PM »
I'm familiar with those type cabinets and its not to terribly difficult to pop the glass or plastic out to change it up but it is really expensive to buy that much stain glass in that large of sheets . If you had some one do leaded glass it would be thousands to have it done ... copper foil would allow you to foil and solder smaller pieces together but is very expensive also .

Have you considered primer and paint as an option ... or decorative tin like old ceiling tile ?     

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« Reply #127 on: July 20, 2014, 12:33:00 PM »
Wow so industrious and such good results. I like those cabinets. I like the gold but of course now it doesn't go with your theme. Why not just put in clear glass. Or frosted plain glass.

I know Im a bit eclectic but what do people have against mixing gold and silver? My kitchen has mostly brushed stainless but I have brass mixed in and it looks homey. I even put glittery gold stars and comets stickers on my silvery fridge. Anyway I like it.

To me mixing gold tone and silver tones with wood warms up the silver.
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« Reply #128 on: July 20, 2014, 12:38:08 PM »
whats the final look you're going for wolfie? punched tin panels in the cabinet doors would look very cracker barrel country, but would blend with the brushed nickel

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« Reply #129 on: July 21, 2014, 08:09:31 AM »
I'm trying to achieve a toned down Turkish theme with a little French Riviera thrown in.  Definitely not doing a country theme.

Any sort of tin or punched metal will definitely produce a country feel.  I had a friend who's a real estate agent give me a detailed list of things that should be replaced based on the current market.  He says that's the number one complaint from home seekers is 80's style fixtures.

He says this will be an easy sell if I choose to go that route.  He knows of no other properties this close to the lake that has 3 lots.  I sit directly across from the Yacht club and boat launches so this would be ideal for some of the seasonal people. 

I guess I'll settle for colored glass as I see stained glass panels are out of touch with my pocketbook.
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« Reply #130 on: July 21, 2014, 08:25:41 AM »
The reason I mentioned tin was because they are not always punched or country ... some are contemporary in design and very easy to work with . I do like the idea of glass though .

Wolfe ... I used to go to glass company in town and raid the dumpster with their permission . They installed new windows for folks and brought back the old ones with the old wavy glass .

I would take the glass and foil the edges in copper and solder them together its super easy to do . I have a cabinet in my kitchen that I used old glass I found and threw a in few bevels I bought to dress them up .

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« Reply #131 on: July 21, 2014, 08:35:52 AM »
One of the things I like about copper foil work is you can incorporate anything interesting into the piece as long as it can be foiled and soldered . I have made windows out of everything to bits or metal to geode slices ... the geode slices are beautiful when back-lit or in a window . This is not specific advice advice for your projects but considering all the possibility's can get your creative juices flowing and lead to the perfect plan .     

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« Reply #132 on: July 21, 2014, 09:00:57 AM »
I've been searching and I found some really pretty options.  Home Depot has different colored glass and I'm really drawn to the bold red.  It has that wavy look to it.  I think that means it has a higher led level?  removing the existing glass will be a piece of cake.  It is only caulked into place.

There's a product also available where you can frost existing glass but I know the existing design will be visible.  And I'm a dumb ass, my sister is the office manager at a glass manufacturing plant so I'll give her a holler and see if she has any thing I might be able to use.
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« Reply #133 on: July 25, 2014, 10:25:47 AM »
Awesome!!!!  I got the replacement panes ordered today at an unbelievable price.  FREE!!!!  My sister's company has both P516 obscure glass and frosted acid etched glass.  She is bringing them to me next week and I told her I prefer the acid ones.

She is bringing me a sample of the obscure just make sure.
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« Reply #134 on: July 25, 2014, 03:01:07 PM »
having relatives in certain professions sure can be helpful. That whole island we installed in the kitchen came at almost no expense.

pictures. i wanna pix of these new panes when you get them installed. :D
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« Reply #135 on: July 26, 2014, 10:14:13 AM »
A bit off topic but I rec'd other pretty good news yesterday that was the antithesis of the original news that I was initially upset about.  Right after my mother's diagnosis, she took out a loan on her pick up truck to finance a long, around the country vacation visiting all her sisters.  I didn't even know about this until we were going through her financials.  I've obviously changed my mindset and am glad she did that.

I made a ridiculously low offer to the finance company expecting that they would reject it.  None of us really need another truck and weren't willing to pay what they loaned her on it.  They accepted my $500 offer to settle the debt.  I asked each of my siblings if they wanted it and none did.  So now my 30 year old S10 has a younger companion S10.  It's purple, but what the heck.  :) 

We've also all reached the point where we're ready to deal with her personal affects.  Every time I've entered her bedroom, I became overwhelmed.  None of us have been able to sort through things.  We're going down later to pack it up to donate to a local church that provides free clothing to the needy.  I see an emotion packed evening.
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« Reply #136 on: July 26, 2014, 10:24:11 AM »
A bit off topic but I rec'd other pretty good news yesterday that was the antithesis of the original news that I was initially upset about.  Right after my mother's diagnosis, she took out a loan on her pick up truck to finance a long, around the country vacation visiting all her sisters.  I didn't even know about this until we were going through her financials.  I've obviously changed my mindset and am glad she did that.

I made a ridiculously low offer to the finance company expecting that they would reject it.  None of us really need another truck and weren't willing to pay what they loaned her on it.  They accepted my $500 offer to settle the debt.  I asked each of my siblings if they wanted it and none did.  So now my 30 year old S10 has a younger companion S10.  It's purple, but what the heck.  :) 

We've also all reached the point where we're ready to deal with her personal affects.  Every time I've entered her bedroom, I became overwhelmed.  None of us have been able to sort through things.  We're going down later to pack it up to donate to a local church that provides free clothing to the needy.  I see an emotion packed evening.

I know that when my dad died I payed off his credit cards although it was my understanding that his estate was not under any obligation to do so ... not sure about an automobile loan though . It could be they were happy to get anything they could from you .

I had to gather my dads possessions when I sold his home and it was hard to part with things and very emotional ... it took me a few years to get rid of the things I had no need of so I am looking back and remembering that when I read where you are in the process .

Hope you can get through this with some happy memories ... its a tough part and almost like having to say goodbye again . Hugs . 

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« Reply #137 on: July 26, 2014, 10:36:13 AM »
Hope you can get through this with some happy memories ... its a tough part and almost like having to say goodbye again
sorting through someone's belongings is the second worst part of them dying. :-X It really is a time when you say goodbye. Goodbye to things in your childhood (often parents will still own things we made/bought/had as children), goodbye to times you shared together and just goodbye.

My thoughts when doing this "sorting" was to get rid of as many things as possible and only keep the things I could really use or that really "mattered". Things I didn't know what to do with or didn't know if I should part with, I simply boxed up. Then during my subsequent moves (which happened yrs later), I've revisited those boxes and threw away more. It was easier to pare down to the essential items to keep when some time had gone by.

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