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Author Topic: Tested negative after 13 weeks, but symptoms are killing me  (Read 2557 times)

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Hello,

I had a low-risk sex encounter in a massage parlor 3.5 months ago. One week after this encounter I started experiencing something terrible – headaches, dizziness, extreme fatigue, night sweating, slightly blurred vision and red rash on my chest and back. My face doesn’t look healthy either. I have narrowed sick-looking eyes with dark circles around. I went for HIV testing after 3.5 weeks (antibodies & P24) which was negative. I had other HIV tests after 6 (finger prick test), 9 (blood test) and 13 weeks (finger prick test). All negative. I know that the test after 13 weeks is considered conclusive, but I really think I am in trouble. The symptoms are still present after 3.5 months and especially dizziness and fatigue are killing me. My dizziness is so strong during days that I can’t even concentrate and work. This way, I will soon lose my source of income. I sleep 10-12 hours a day and I get tired quickly. Even if I walk I get extremely tired. My bed became my best friend these days.

I was tested for all common STI’s and all tests were negative. I went to see my GP. He did blood test and some other tests. Everything is normal. I have no reason to believe that the symptoms mentioned above are not HIV-related because they started right one week after the encounter. Many HIV-positive people in this forum describe their health status before they went for testing similar as I do. It would be a big coincidence if this was a non-sexual illness. I have a suspicion that sooner or later the HIV test will turn positive. WHO, government and other sources admit that approx. 2-3% of HIV-positive people test negative after 3 months. This is not a low number and someone must fall in this 2-3%.

Does somebody in this forum have similar experience? Did you test negative after 3 months which turned positive later? Or is it possible that I caught a rare type of HIV that current tests can’t discover? Or some other harmless virus? What harmless virus would cause these kind of symptoms which stay 3+ months?

Thank you for your thoughts.

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Re: Tested negative after 13 weeks, but symptoms are killing me
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2013, 11:08:47 AM »
Did you even have a possible exposure if so what was your exposure?

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Re: Tested negative after 13 weeks, but symptoms are killing me
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2013, 11:26:46 AM »
I had a VIP massage. The masseuse was massaging me with her body. She was lying on top of me. There were two situations when she moved quickly and my penis bumped hard to her vaginal/anal area. I have a suspicion that it may have entered her vagina or anus half inch very quickly, like one second or so.

Three days later I had a minor inflammation on the tip of my foreskin, but I didn't pay much attention to it. I my opinion this was a prove that my penis got in contact with her body fluids.

Of course, I regret the whole thing (30 min vs. healthy life). I was stupid and unlucky at the same time. This is the worse combination.

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Re: Tested negative after 13 weeks, but symptoms are killing me
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2013, 11:28:26 AM »
Had you penetrated her you would  have known without a doubt. You did not have an exposure.

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Re: Tested negative after 13 weeks, but symptoms are killing me
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2013, 11:46:46 AM »
Och,

As Rodney has pointed out, you have not had a risk for hiv infection. As he also says, if you had penetrated her, you would have known.

What you describe is similar to frottage (the sexual rubbing of body parts together WITHOUT penetration), and frottage is NOT a risk for hiv infection.

Even if you did have a risk (you did NOT have a risk) you are conclusively hiv negative.

The vast majority of people who have actually been infected will seroconvert and test positive by six weeks, with the average time to seroconversion being only 22 days.

A six week negative must be confirmed at the three month point, but is highly unlikely to change. I've yet to see a six week negative result change, never mind a three month negative. You do NOT have hiv.

If the illness you experienced had anything to do with hiv, you would have tested positive by now. The illness that some people experience (many people experience no symptoms) is not caused by the virus itself. It is caused by the process the body goes through while producing antibodies.

If you continue to feel unwell, continue to work with your doctor to find out what is actually going on. Whatever that may be, it is NOT hiv. Not only did you NOT have a risk, but you have also tested conclusively hiv negative and therefore ruled hiv out as a possible cause.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

Ann
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Re: Tested negative after 13 weeks, but symptoms are killing me
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2013, 02:23:04 PM »
I would be happy with some out-of-the-box thinking. Most of the HIV/AIDS Helpline would tell me that I had no risk and all this is just an anxiety. Yes, this would cover probably 95% of all cases. But the reason I am posting in this forum is that I want to discuss this 5% of situations which may be mine. The last 3.5 months were just a living hell for me and this is happening for a reason.

Thank you for your reply, Rodney and Ann. I really appreciate your support and positive thinking, but now, after 3.5 months of straggling I want to face the reality. Is there anybody participating in this forum who experienced similar problems I do now? Please help me with your advice. It would make my life much easier.

I would love to have answers to the following questions:

1. Did you experience similar problem and it disappeared by itself after some time and now you feel/are healthy again?
2. Did you test negative after 3 months and it turned positive later? Can this ever happen to a healthy individual (like I used to be)?
3. What else (sexually transmitted) beside HIV can cause similar symptoms: dizziness, fatigue, photosensitivity, blurred vision etc.?

Thanks again for your help!

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Re: Tested negative after 13 weeks, but symptoms are killing me
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2013, 02:38:16 PM »
Och,

Once again, if you feel unwell, see a doctor. We can't help you with that here, but we CAN tell you that you DO NOT HAVE HIV.

You are conclusively negative and no, people don't suddenly seroconvert three months or more after being infected. They usually test positive within six WEEKS.

I've already explained to you that the illness that sometimes accompanies seroconversion is the body's reaction to the process of creating antibodies. It's the same process the body goes through when producing antibodies to anything - such as the flu. That's why ARS is often described as "flu-like".

Here's what seroconversion means. Sero is a prefix that means blood, and conversion means change. When someone seroconverts, it means that enough antibodies have been created to change the blood from negative (to whatever pathogen is being tested for) to positive.

You do NOT have hiv.

I suggest you expend your energy on finding out what, if anything is actually wrong with you. Whatever that may be, you have already ruled hiv out as a possible cause.

If you cannot accept the fact that you do not have hiv, I suggest you seek out the help of a mental health professional. There are more illnesses in the world than hiv.

You weren't even at risk for hiv in the first place.

Ann

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"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

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Re: Tested negative after 13 weeks, but symptoms are killing me
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 02:59:30 PM »
Ouch , You are not permitted to post in any forum or thread other than the one you started in Am I INFECTED . Please do not reply to other threads and keep all of your questions and replies in this thread only .

I removed your post in the thread that you are not authorized to post in . You can go to your profile and select show own post and it will take you here .   

 


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