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Author Topic: RE: Upcoming New York Gay Pride Gathering and a Meningitis Health Warning...  (Read 1527 times)

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Offline OneTampa

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Offline tednlou2

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When I posted a recent article about this, many seemed to think this was all hype and nothing out of the ordinary.  Some did not think the number of infections and deaths were alarming in the least.  So, I don't know what to make of it. 

Offline Miss Philicia

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When I posted a recent article about this, many seemed to think this was all hype and nothing out of the ordinary.  Some did not think the number of infections and deaths were alarming in the least.  So, I don't know what to make of it. 

No Ted, your thread argued if people outside of NYC needed to be vaccinated.
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Offline oksikoko

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They give these away here like therapy, but you have to get two shots separated by a few months. I assume one shot is better than none, but I have no idea how that actually works. Someone I know got his shots at, I think, Paddles, a sort of sex club type of place to which I have honestly never been, thank you very much, not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just not my thing, etc.

My point is that the doctors in this article are "sounding the alarm" a little late to be fully vaccinated by the end of June unless you've already gotten the first shot. You can stand beside me, though. I got vaccinated last winter at the health department when I found out I had the HIV.

At first they were targeting people who used party drugs or hooked up on apps and who lived in certain boroughs and neighborhoods. Then someone in the DOH realized that NYC has subways and that we don't self-segregate sex partners (much) into people who use Grindr and people who don't use Grindr (much), so they changed the recommendation to include all MSM.
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Offline mikeyb39

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I would be scared to live in New York, everything that happens seem to start there.  What's going on in this city? 
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Offline oksikoko

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I would be scared to live in New York, everything that happens seem to start there.  What's going on in this city?

Nothing to be scared of, buddy. All the bad things seem to happen to other people. ;)
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Offline Miss Philicia

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I would be scared to live in New York, everything that happens seem to start there.  What's going on in this city

You shouldn't look at it as just a city since the metropolitan area is almost equal to the population of Texas. Then consider how that population is squeezed into one smallish area. Then how their airport system is the second highest amount of passenger use in the world.

Tokyo, London... all the same issue. I don't think "more bad things" occur in NYC than those other two cities.

ps: are these warnings also issued to MSM that live in, for example, Hoboken, NJ? That's as close to Manhattan as living in Brooklyn.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2013, 11:50:16 AM by Miss Philicia »
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Offline Calison

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 A Man from West Hollywood, Brett Shadd, Died from Meningitis in Los Angeles  2 weeks after attending the "White Party" in Palm Springs around April 15 2013 :o.
 No one can claim he caught the bug there, however, after that death we here were all warned and the clinics in Southern California all offered up Free Vaccinations for the deadly bug to anyone who wanted a vaccination.
They cite close quarters (dance floors etc)...

"where the bug can be spread through exchange of respiratory and throat secretions like Spit." :D
"It tends to spread where larger groups of people gather or live, like college dorms."

 Healthy adults usually survive and often recover being infected and might not even seek treatment... but for the immune compromised like infants and elderly and... guess who ! It could be fatal.

A KISS on the HAND may be Quite Continental .... :-*!! (Sing Out Louise!)

There were also many thousands of men who attended the "White Party 2013" and did not become ill. Just Mr Shadd became ill and died and no one knows where he had been before or after the White Party... It was quite a warning round these parts. Any more Information Can be Googled. Have Fun and Be careful!  ;)
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Offline Miss Philicia

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It's not unusual to meet someone at the White Party that just flew in from NYC for the event, then spend a couple of days with him snorting coke from a shared straw. Now is it?

I'm going to NYC in three weeks, but I don't intend to go to any gay clubs or bars. Should I request to be vaccinated by my doctor before I go? I also live in a city less than 2 hours drive from NYC, with a gay population that regularly goes up there on the weekends. Should I still be vaccinated?
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Offline oksikoko

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It's not unusual to meet someone at the White Party that just flew in from NYC for the event, then spend a couple of days with him snorting coke from a shared straw. Now is it?

I'm going to NYC in three weeks, but I don't intend to go to any gay clubs or bars. Should I request to be vaccinated by my doctor before I go? I also live in a city less than 2 hours drive from NYC, with a gay population that regularly goes up there on the weekends. Should I still be vaccinated?

Being gay is a blast. Yes, I recommend anyone get all their shots for everything before coming here for anything ever.
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2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
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Offline aaware72

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Hmm.  so if someone was to work at a place that see a large gay population coming into town from all over the world then it would be wise to get this vaccination? Might need to ask the doc about this...
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Offline Calison

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Being gay is a blast. Yes, I recommend anyone get all their shots for everything before coming here for anything ever.

 8) Yes Bar Keep... Shots for all!.... er ...I mean Vaccinations please, dear Nurse Ratchet.
 
 One Brilliant man here said "Why would I spend 450 dollars to attend a "White Party Dance" when I can go to the local gay Bar and be ignored just the same spending only 3 dollars for a cocktail!"

 Never yet made it to a "White Party"... too poor, too old, and too tired and it don't look like any fun to me.

 Glad that the young folks have a chance to kick up them heels though. Just be careful and have fun!
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Offline oksikoko

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Mine was sarcasm. Being gay is decidedly not a blast. ;)
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2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Offline Joe K

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Mine was sarcasm. Being gay is decidedly not a blast. ;)

Then you must be doing it wrong.

Joe

Offline oksikoko

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Then you must be doing it wrong.

Joe

Sorry I don't live up to your impossible standards.
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2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Offline Joe K

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Sorry I don't live up to your impossible standards.

Wow.  I meant it as a joke... lighten up already.

Joe

Offline tednlou2

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No Ted, your thread argued if people outside of NYC needed to be vaccinated.

Ok, I was remembering things differently.  "Many" did not poo-poo the risk.  However, it did appear you were.  You discussed how so many from your city go to NYC, and there hasn't been an outbreak.  And, you took issue with the HIV connection, which may be a valid point.  If I'm putting words in your mouth, please correct.

I did think what you said about me living in Louisville and it was silly for me to think I could be infected was short-sighted.  I know from talking with my gay uncle, who lived here, many thought the new "gay illness" in 1981 was something only people in larger cities needed to worry about.  He said many continued to have the same kind of sexual habits as always, thinking small town folks didn't need to worry.  He said they thought it was hype and overblown.  I'm certainly not saying this will grow into some huge health epidemic.  Although, meningitis would be much more likely to be transmitted than HIV. 

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=48218.msg585105#msg585105

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Miss Felicia :-*,

No need for straw and cocaine when a well placed tongue will do the same.

Its vector is: Spit/Saliva, Like TB.  :P



 
Just Say No Thank You to Meningitis.

 Happy July. We Survived another June Gay Pride Month and Got the Right to Wed to Boot!
  Happy July 2013. 8)
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