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Offline oksikoko

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Egrifta, Oy
« on: June 24, 2013, 08:07:45 AM »
Is there any way to let the ad sales department at Poz know that the Egrifta ads make the forums nearly unreadable by phone? I'm sure Egrifta is a lovely medication, and this question has nothing to do with the product or the ads, but rather with the mechanism of display.

It's next to impossible to hit the "X" target to close the window without triggering the ad, and the ad covers most of the visible area on the screen. For iPhones, for example, it's recommended that your targets be at least 44x44 pixels. This one is maybe 15.

I would spend more time reading the forums and have a better user experience if I could do so more easily by phone (more time spent + better UX = more ad sales, we all win). I use my phone for most things, but for Poz.com's forum, the user interface necessitates a desktop or laptop or patience. It's becoming more and more glaringly out of date in this respect.

As an aside, it's very quaint how the forum profile page asks for ICQ, MSN and AIM but not Twitter or Facebook. :)

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Note: I'm not criticizing the forum or the publication or its advertisers. I have three goals, none of which to my knowledge violate the rules:

1) To find out if someone can pass it along that the display mechanism of the Egrifta ads helps mar phone participation. This is not necessarily a 'first world problem' since in many parts of the world particularly hit by HIV/AIDS, phones are the primary way of accessing online material.

2) To complain about the near impossibility of hitting that tiny 'X' without opening a new window. Because it's irritating.

3) To wonder aloud how these forums have remained so mobile-unfriendly this late into the mobile era. I suspect

a) the software that runs them isn't portable to any mobile-friendly format and
b) there aren't resources to do it in-house or
c) there isn't the willingness to simply reboot and start over with more future-looking software since the existing forums are gold for SEO purposes as well as serving as an online encyclopedia of sorts.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 09:18:51 AM »
I'm sure the marketing execs initially thought "wow, these POZ Forum members are really interested in our product!" and then upon closer inspection realize it is GSOgymrat accidentally hitting the pop-up on his phone every... single... time.

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2013, 10:03:25 AM »
I posted the same thing over a year ago.  At that time it was a Kaletra ad.

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=41078.0
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Offline oksikoko

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 10:16:54 AM »
I posted the same thing over a year ago.  At that time it was a Kaletra ad.

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=41078.0

I shall henceforth perform a more thorough search before posting.
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Offline Jmarksto

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 10:42:15 AM »
For what it's worth, I gave up trying to look at this site (Poz.com, or the forums) on my phone. I suspect that the advertisers see accidental openings of their ad as a good thing rather than a bad thing.

Oh well, its a good thing that here we are - pozies sitting around and one of our worries are the ads that are popping up.  I guess its also a good thing that we are such a limited market that we don't warrant updating the user interface.

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2013, 10:48:12 AM »
ICQ, MSN and AIM
i just had to google "aim"  :o
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 10:55:03 AM »
Oh well, its a good thing that here we are - pozies sitting around and one of our worries are the ads that are popping up.  I guess its also a good thing that we are such a limited market that we don't warrant updating the user interface.

I'm not familiar with this particular software, but when I was employable, I was employed at things like updating technologies and web processes (etc.) on sites like this. If the data isn't easily portable from this system, then they're sort of stuck. If it were portable, they could just do a data dump and plug a new database into a new interface. There would be a few hours of downtime, then {poof} new Poz.com forums - retaining the archives. There's no way they'd just dump everything and start over, the technically and logistically easiest solution, not with the forum playing such a large role in Poz.com's high rankings on basically any HIV-related search question. Any update would be rather expensive, and things are still not great for publishers' bottom lines. I would argue that updating the interface here (and the rest of the site, egads!) would be a good investment of any available funds, but so would everyone else about their department's projects.

My point it that I don't think it's about our worth as content consumers, but rather about not having the money to start working on what could become a large data headache very quickly and not having initially (years ago) chosen software with this eventuality in mind.

I'm just guessing, though.
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 10:56:35 AM »
i just had to google "aim"  :o

Exactly. You only know ICQ on account of you're European. ;) The only people I've ever known who used ICQ were in the former Soviet states of Eastern Europe.
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2013, 11:14:58 AM »
At lunch today I reviewed a final exam a colleague made up. The reading comp text was some prehistoric article about devilish rock music and computer games, circa Marilyn Manson - Columbine 1999.
I changed it all up since were supposed to use "authentic" texts and tasks, meaningful to college students.  Colleague was annoyed and bewildered.....

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2013, 11:19:28 AM »
But I'm the guy stumbling to cancel my landline. go figure   :o
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2013, 11:27:00 AM »
The only people I've ever known who used ICQ were in the former Soviet states of Eastern Europe.
AIM and ICQ are so 1999 ;D
I should see if I still have accts with those LOL
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2013, 12:42:37 PM »

I changed it all up since were supposed to use "authentic" texts and tasks, meaningful to college students.  Colleague was annoyed and bewildered.....
Both understandable and human, to feel a bit annoyed if someone even indirectly and no matter how politely, says you're behind the times.  Which is why I took my own time to make the edits. 
So, always meddle into such matters with kid gloves, right...  ;)
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2013, 01:21:15 PM »
Using these forums on a smartphone is an exercise in torture, so basically I pass on doing so.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2013, 02:17:29 PM »
The reading comp text was some prehistoric article about devilish rock music and computer games, circa Marilyn Manson - Columbine 1999.

They use video games to train doctors and fighter pilots now. Satanists have better things to do.

Apparently some pre-Colombian celebrity named Cher performed for the first time in a decade on one of your television programmes. I'm told this is significant because her last appearance was 2003. How was that a decade ago? (OMG, I'm old.)
Code: [Select]
2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2013, 02:49:00 PM »
Cher announced her retirement in 2001 to come after releasing her album Living Proof and embarked on a "Farewell Tour" in 2002. Well the tour went on. and on. And then it was so successful it went on and on and on. It ended in 2005 but needless to say, Cher did not.  A few fans grumbled that they paid to see her say goodbye, and wow there she was again on the same tour, years later, saying it again and again. Most of course, were delighted.

Meanwhile, Caesars in Vegas built the 100 million dollar Colosseum for Celine Dion in a show biz game changer. 

And Celine went on and on and on until Caesars freshened the show to bring "retired" Cher onstage for 180 million for a 3-year run starting in 2008. (alternating with Bette Midler, and I don't know how much Bette got.)

180 million.........  :o :o 8) ::)


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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2013, 04:14:41 PM »
I have certainly frustrated using my phone.  Hitting the x was almost impossible.  The ad would often move around, like it was playing a game of tag.  Of course, it could have been my phones browser.  But, I'm actually using my phone to type this.  So far, so good.

I do think the layout of this forum is superior to others.  Before finding this site, I went to The Body's forums.  The layout was so confusing and not user friendly.  It was just ugly.  They were using some old software.  I immediately signed off and went searching for another.

Modified:  I left out a word in the first sentence, using my phone.
« Last Edit: June 24, 2013, 04:17:15 PM by tednlou2 »

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2013, 04:42:12 PM »
I have heard that many users have a similar experience on Adam4Adam. When they attempt to click on the link to see "all users" who have viewed their profile they are directed to a live pay to view webcam site. The link for the web cam site is larger than it appears and it must be on purpose, Just sayin.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2013, 05:27:42 PM »
Here's a scam for you. Up until recently, it was legal in Switzerland for scammers to send text messages to cell phones which were "collect on delivery". You accidentally opened the message and got charged 2 CH (about 2 bucks). I kid you not. Outrageous.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2013, 06:18:36 PM »
Well, like many of us here (not on this thread) I am behind the times. I get a bit of a kick out of some who would rather watch TV on an iphone or ipad instead of a big screen TV.
I don't really get why people are obsessed with twitter. I'm sure it can come in handy for some but I prefer to remain "unwired". I rarely ever use my cell phone and certainly don't have the "need" to keep it in my pocket at all times.
Just me.  :)
Whatever floats your boat I guess.
Sorry, kinda off topic.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2013, 06:23:34 PM »
Twitter is for the quite type with Tourette's I always say .

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/health/surrender-say-tourette-syndrome

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2013, 07:07:14 PM »
Twitter is for the quite type with Tourette's I always say .

Well, like many of us here (not on this thread) I am behind the times. I get a bit of a kick out of some who would rather watch TV on an iphone or ipad instead of a big screen TV.
I don't really get why people are obsessed with twitter. I'm sure it can come in handy for some but I prefer to remain "unwired". I rarely ever use my cell phone and certainly don't have the "need" to keep it in my pocket at all times.
Just me.  :)
Whatever floats your boat I guess.
Sorry, kinda off topic.

Oh, don't think I like Twitter just because I find it odd that it's not included. It was fun before all the people showed up in 2009, but that's when I stopped listening.

I mean, I do have a new one, but I mostly use it to track my hallucinations, so there's maybe 100 tweeters tweeted on my twitters in total.

And this is the off topic forum. You are required by law to be off topic.
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2013, 07:19:23 PM »


And this is the off topic forum. You are required by law to be off topic.
Whew! :)

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2013, 07:21:03 PM »
Yep ... off topic is the dark part of the playground so enter at your own risk LOL .

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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2013, 07:43:46 PM »
And I have heard that Tumblr is Twitter's dark twin. High school and college students have left Facebook because their parents are all there. And  (I have also heard) the high resolution graphics make Tumblr the perfect site for porn! Very popular among the gays. Plus, unless you reveal your Tumblr name to someone it's not possible for them to find you - or your dirty secrets.

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2013, 07:47:47 PM »
I'll Tumble for You!

Don't you mean, "I'll Tumbl for You"? "I'll Tumblr for You"?

I think since Yahoo! bought Tumblr, its days as "that place" are numbered. Yahoo! likes advertisers, but advertisers do not like their products shown on blogs devoted to naked cartographers in XXX scenes (there's a tumblr for everything).
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2013, 08:01:33 PM »
Oh well I was having an '80s flashback and didn't want to seem too MDNA esque.

In a way I went "off topic".

I do need to keep up with who acquires what. I don't think we can get any briefer than Snapchat and Tumblr isn't really meant for smartphones. Vines - but that's not that different from Snapchat.......
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2013, 08:25:26 PM »
And I have heard that Tumblr is Twitter's dark twin. High school and college students have left Facebook because their parents are all there. And  (I have also heard) the high resolution graphics make Tumblr the perfect site for porn! Very popular among the gays. Plus, unless you reveal your Tumblr name to someone it's not possible for them to find you - or your dirty secrets.

I'll Tumble for You!

Why rely on heresay....  treat yourself.  What are your cheesiest but still frisson-inducing fantasies or fetishes? Google  them plus Tumblr.  Some OCD pervs have spent a year or two assembling encyclopedic collections to sear your eye sockets.  Kinky European aristocrats spent centuries building up far meager private galleries of such smut.

Oddly impressive, though I'm too old and blaisé for this sort of thing.
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2013, 08:30:15 PM »
I think Vine is clever and has potential.
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2013, 08:37:52 PM »
I think Vine is clever and has potential.

Isn't Vine the Video messaging thingie? I thought about trying it out...I wished I was young and had alot of other young virile studs to send short jackoff vid messages too.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2013, 08:43:59 PM »
Isn't Vine the Video messaging thingie? I thought about trying it out...I wished I was young and had alot of other young virile studs to send short jackoff vid messages too.

When did youth become a requirement for that? You clearly never saw my old cam4 channel.
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2013, 08:45:57 PM »
When did youth become a requirement for that? You clearly never saw my old cam4 channel.

Well because when I send jackoff vids of me too MissP she laughs and says I'm too old to be doing that ::)

and no, I have not seen your Cam4, care to enlighten me?
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2013, 08:48:13 PM »
Yes.
I don't know if its porn based. It seems very linked into other accounts which are not incognito...  I just joined and tested a few vids last week and its better for vids to facebook than facebook's own (new?) method.
It will only be interesting I think when enough friends / family are using it, and then it is very interesting, in my opinion.

As for the young, and the jerk off.  well
1) really be glad you are NOT in youth's headspace.  Too many have this cyborg sexuality that really is half real world, half virtual.  It seems for certain to be quite complicated, heavy and alienating...
2) just send the jo stuff to guys your own age, hey why not? nobody's stopping you and there's probably an audience....
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2013, 08:58:35 PM »
Well because when I send jackoff vids of me too MissP she laughs and says I'm too old to be doing that ::)

and no, I have not seen your Cam4, care to enlighten me?

Luckily (I guess) it no longer exists, but when I got bored things happened and some stuff too sometimes... Then there were those events. Oh, my.

I imagine MissP still uses a feature phone and received a bunch of raw binary data instead of video. Try again using ASCII art.
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2013, 08:59:45 PM »
To make a long story short, recently I hooked up in the middle of the night with a young god living mere shouting distance from my chandeliered Cage a Folles salons. 

To make a long story shorter, the thing relating to this thread is, his fetish floored me. DU JAMAIS VU.

During our assignation, he furiously kept up 4 virtual communications, on 2 macbook pros and two iPhones.  So 5 contacts at the same time. And i got the short end - the sex act - agreed upon in advance, was monotonous, amateurish, and bad.

I stayed until I didn't because i was fascinated, thought it was sort of hilarious, and our communication was novel and held my interest.

I concluded that was 4 online personalities because otherwise why the necessity of four devices?

I told my shrink about it she was pretty floored too.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2013, 09:03:33 PM »
I mean, at least 4! Who knows, maybe it was two personalities on each device, and I was with Sybil. How many did she have?
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2013, 09:05:50 PM »
Yes.
I don't know if its porn based. It seems very linked into other accounts which are not incognito...  I just joined and tested a few vids last week and its better for vids to facebook than facebook's own (new?) method.
It will only be interesting I think when enough friends / family are using it, and then it is very interesting, in my opinion.

As for the young, and the jerk off.  well
1) really be glad you are NOT in youth's headspace.  Too many have this cyborg sexuality that really is half real world, half virtual.  It seems for certain to be quite complicated, heavy and alienating...
2) just send the jo stuff to guys your own age, hey why not? nobody's stopping you and there's probably an audience....

Yeah, but Instagram has video now, so Vine's honeymoon is probably over. They were right place, right time, which doesn't always stick. But what do I know? It stuck for that shitty piece of software called "Facebook" that people continue to use for some reason. Actually, not for "some reason", but for a reason called "the network effect", but that would be a dull thing to say.

As for the headspace created by infinite porn options: I think, yes, there are serious ramifications to the freely available nature of all types of very specific erotica, some of which we won't know for years, but some of which affect some of us most of the time when approach members of the same sex who've visited machomoe one time too often.
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2013, 09:06:56 PM »
During our assignation, he furiously kept up 4 virtual communications, on 2 macbook pros and two iPhones.  So 5 contacts at the same time. And i got the short end - the sex act - agreed upon in advance, was monotonous, amateurish, and bad.

Only 4? Amateur indeed.

Edited to add: In all seriousness, it's not about the sex, you see. It's about the hunt for sex. And you, having already been caught, held no further interest to the hunter. ;)
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2013, 09:11:32 PM »
Amy Schumer had a bit on Episode 7 about a multiple personality psychopath and each personality has a really bad accent.

Not watching this? Its good for a hoot or two, while cooking or washing up.

http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/inside-amy-schumer

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2013, 09:15:38 PM »
Only 4? Amateur indeed.

Edited to add: In all seriousness, it's not about the sex, you see. It's about the hunt for sex. And you, having already been caught, held no further interest to the hunter. ;)

Yes, and no. We connected a few times and the conversation when that happened was unusual but also human. He was high.  Duh.

I just never saw someone do so much virtual and real simultaneously.  So much virtual...  It was uncanny...
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2013, 09:43:58 PM »
Yes, and no. We connected a few times and the conversation when that happened was unusual but also human. He was high.  Duh.

I just never saw someone do so much virtual and real simultaneously.  So much virtual...  It was uncanny...

Then it was even more about the hunt. That sort of high increases the feeling of reward we get for finding things - it works on the dopamine rush that you get when, for instance, you hear the ping of a new e-mail which we're wired for to help us find berries, etc. back in the day. Amplify that little rush by sex  and by testosterone and by (I assume) meth, and it's very easy to follow four simultaneous conversations - with a dopamine ping for each message in each possible encounter. Primates get better dopamine hits upon the possibility of reward than they do with the reward itself. I learned this recently in a genetics course online, so take it with a grain of salt.

He's not looking for sex, I would repeat, no matter how much it looks like he is. He's looking for the rush he gets every time a new possibility for sex appears. Whether or not sex happens or is good or bad is completely irrelevant. In addition to the genetics class, someone who isn't me has personally been in rooms where all individuals were looking at the possibility of naked men on their iPhones instead of the (sometimes model-quality, swim does live in NYC) actual naked men in the room. At the end of swim's days hanging out in such parties, he had a rule that once the first iPhone appeared, he was out the door, because that was a signal nothing else was going to happen that would be any fun. Eventually, swim learned his lesson and stopped going to such events in the first place. Mostly. Primates do get more dopamine from the possibility of rewards than from the rewards, after all. Or as someone else put it, "hope is the thing with feathers".
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2013, 09:50:52 PM »
You clearly never saw my old cam4 channel.

Oh, we all saw it (well, the Cabal did) and passed it around dutifully.


I imagine MissP still uses a feature phone and received a bunch of raw binary data instead of video. Try again using ASCII art.

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2013, 09:55:31 PM »
Oh, we all saw it (well, the Cabal did) and passed it around dutifully.


Oh that was Oksi? Not bad, not bad at all.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2013, 09:59:55 PM »
Oh that was Oksi? Not bad, not bad at all.

Wasn't as good as that forum member with the video of himself on xtube using a large vacuum pump on his butthole to create giant rosebuds. Now that was a real winner.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2013, 10:02:57 PM »
I'm sure you're pretty spot on. Though the drug was coke.

I know all about the hunt and possibility.

I got some of the same rules as swim.  ;D

Never saw so MANY devices in action, this was new.

TV. Or the laptop on the side table or in the corner. Checking cell messages.  Interrupting sex to ask "you like 3 ways" Blah blah blah . Shooting and rolling over to open the iphone, light a cigarette, without a word to the partner.  Seen all that of course.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2013, 10:18:38 PM »
Wasn't as good as that forum member with the video of himself on xtube using a large vacuum pump on his butthole to create giant rosebuds. Now that was a real winner.

Well, that's definitely not me. My xtube clips require a password for viewing.
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2014-11-14: CD4 Wars Episode II: Return of the Stribild (released in Europe as Stribild II: Werewolf Bitch)
2014-11-06:                ☣ VL (→) 12,627      ☣ CD4 (→) 639
2014-??-??: off treatment  ☣ VL (?)              ☣ CD4 (?)
2013-10-03:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1105
2013-05-23:                ☣ VL (=) undetectable ☣ CD4 (-) 945
2013-02-25:                ☣ VL (-) undetectable ☣ CD4 (+) 1123
2012-12-16: Enter Stribild
2012-11-20: HIV+           ☣ VL (→) 132,683      ☣ CD4 (→) 920
2012-04-01: HIV-
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2013, 10:28:56 PM »
Wasn't as good as that forum member with the video of himself on xtube using a large vacuum pump on his butthole to create giant rosebuds. Now that was a real winner.

Oh yes! that one is a Forums classic.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2013, 10:29:23 PM »
All of my xtube videos involve me snorting coke off of the foreskin of Dominican hustlers.
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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2013, 05:16:15 AM »
Why rely on heresay....  treat yourself.  What are your cheesiest but still frisson-inducing fantasies or fetishes? Google  them plus Tumblr.  Some OCD pervs have spent a year or two assembling encyclopedic collections to sear your eye sockets.  Kinky European aristocrats spent centuries building up far meager private galleries of such smut.

Oddly impressive, though I'm too old and blaisé for this sort of thing.

What's to say I haven't tried many of the things I have heard about? Indeed, I wish I had a particular fetish as it seems everyone else does. It would make for more convenient sorting. It's difficult to find a poster fond of the same things. Specificity trumps hotness.

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Re: Egrifta, Oy
« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2013, 09:00:24 PM »
Yesterday I read half this thread and was going to reply with my technique for getting rid of the popup on my phone, but got distracted. Tonight when I go online, the popup is on my notebook but not on my iPhone. Anyone else experiencing that?

 


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