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Offline socalbruin

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should I consider taking PEP
« on: June 03, 2013, 04:18:52 PM »
Hi guys,

First of all, thank you for reading my message and I wish you all well. I was exposed to HIV 23 days ago through unprotected oral sex (I gave the guy a blow job for about 1 to 2 minutes without ejaculation). He told me he was HIV positive with a undetectable viral load.It was a mistake that I have been regretting since.

I saw a physician earlier this morning and had two blood tests. One was for the antigen test I believe and the other one was for viral load. The first test came back and it was negative ( I was surprised how fast it came back, only couple of hours) and the viral load result will be back next week.

I cant tell you what a relief this is but im still concerned about the accuracy of the test. Could it be a false negative?
The physician reminded me to get tested again in 6 months. Thanks

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Re: Is my blood test accurate?
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2013, 04:37:08 PM »
You didn't have a risk and there was no need to test over a oral sex concern .

There are dozens of proteins and enzymes in your saliva that damage HIV and render it unable to infect .

There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.) These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years. The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex. Any kind of oral sex.

These studies yielded NO infections.

HIV is acquired sexually through unprotected vaginal and anal sex , as long as you are using condoms consistently and correctly for those two activity's you will avoid HIV .   

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Re: Is my blood test accurate?
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2013, 04:49:22 PM »
Thanks for replying,

My gums often bleeds so I think it might have increased the risk. I also showed some symptoms such as diarrhea and skin rash. My physician said those were acne lessons but i never had them on my chest before. Could these symptoms be due to my anxiety since I have been extremely anxious and stressed in the last three weeks?

Thank you

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Re: Is my blood test accurate?
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2013, 04:59:23 PM »
Thanks for replying,

My gums often bleeds so I think it might have increased the risk. I also showed some symptoms such as diarrhea and skin rash. My physician said those were acne lessons but i never had them on my chest before. Could these symptoms be due to my anxiety since I have been extremely anxious and stressed in the last three weeks?

Thank you

Nope, your bleeding gums are not a risk. I can understns dwhy you would think that, but it simply does not apply to HIV infection.

And it is quite likely that your chest adne is just that, and along with your bowel issues is caused by your anxiety over this non-risk event.

Saliva contains over a dozen identified elements that neutralize HIV and render it incapable of infection.

The only oral health situation I can even remotely imagine would facilitate infection would beone that significantly inhibited your saliva. Google "meth mouth" and you will see what I reference. And even then, it would take an exceptionally high viral load (usually only found in someone recently infected but not diagnosed) to even rise to any level of concern.

You had no risk and did not need to test.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

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Re: Is my blood test accurate?
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2013, 04:59:58 PM »
Your symptoms are in no way specific to HIV and that's why we don't discuss symptoms .

HIV is acquired sexually through unprotected vaginal and anal sex , as long as you are using condoms consistently and correctly for those two activity's you will avoid HIV .   

We take our risk assessment responsibility's seriously and we do what we do to prevent infections by educating people about HIV . If I thought that you had the slightest risk I would have told you so that you could get tested and into treatment if need be .

I did read your concerns and you did not have a risk .

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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2013, 03:23:16 AM »
Hi all

Thank you in advance for taking your times to read my story.
 
I had unprotected anal sex about 24 hours ago and I was the receptive one. The intercourse happened about 5 seconds as I stopped it and left.

I know that this guy has several BB partners and also uses some illegal substances. I did not know what went through my mind that night that I decided to let him inside me without a condom. He told me that night that he was negative. However I never heard from him again as I tried to contact him to make sure what he told me was the truth. (should I take a hint here that he lied?)

How high of the risk do you think I might have exposed to? I have an appointment tomorrow with my doctor to talk about PEP. I would like know what your opinions are about this situation? Should I go a head to take PEP or am I just being overly traumatized? Thank you !

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2013, 03:44:16 AM »
Well yor risk was legitimate, and if you decided to take PEP for it you have about 24 hours for optimal effect (72 hours is the limit but the success rate drops sharply after the first 24 hours).

Five seconds is not that long of a time, but there is indeed a risk there, and if you can swing it, it might be worth looking into even before you meet with your doctor. If you are in the US, you can go to a local emergency room and request it.

Please understand that taking PEP will increase your testing window by a month. Therefore, the soonest that you can test and get a semi-reliable result is six weeks after your last dose of PEP. And the Gold Standard is three months past your last dose of PEP (four months total).

Whatever you choose, I certainly hope this turns out all right for you.

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Re: should I consider taking PEP
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2013, 04:12:54 AM »
SCB,

I've merged your new thread into your original thread - where you should post all your additional thoughts or questions. It helps us to help you when you keep everything in one thread. It doesn't matter how long it has been since you last posted in your thread or if the subject matter is different.

If you need help finding your thread when you come here, click on the "Show own posts" link under your name in the left-hand column of any forum page.

Please also read through the Welcome Thread so you can familiarize yourself with our Forum Posting Guidelines. Thank you for your cooperation.



As JK said, you have had a risk and this is a situation in which PEP is recommended. (Unlike many of the other situations in which people take PEP around here.)

And please take note that taking PEP increases your testing window period. JK gave you the details.

You REALLY need to learn from this. Hopefully you'll come out of it hiv negative and you'll have a second chance at remaining hiv negative. Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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