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Oral sex with Precum in my mouth, hiv risk?
« on: May 24, 2013, 10:40:47 AM »
Hello, i'm a boy from Italy. Sorry for my bad english but i know it only for "school study".

One week ago i performed a "blow job" to Shemale (i don't know if her was Hiv+ or not).
I didn't receive her cum in my mouth, but very much of precum.

I have to go to take the test or can I feel comfortable?

Thank you..

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Re: Oral sex with Precum in my mouth, hiv risk?
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 10:48:41 AM »
Hi Carlos ... you need not worry that you were infected by HIV giving a blowjob .

Your saliva contains over a dozen proteins and enzymes that damage HIV and render it unable to infect . There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.) These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years. The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex. Any kind of oral sex.

These studies yielded NO infections.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care checkup, including but not limited to HIV testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine checkups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine HIV tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than HIV. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid HIV infection. It really is that simple!
 

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Re: Oral sex with Precum in my mouth, hiv risk?
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 03:02:24 PM »
Thank you Jeff G.

Can I find the study that you've mentioned on the Internet?

At some Italian sites that speak HIV, doctors say the risk for oral sex (blowjob) is present, even without ejaculation.

I trust most of the USA guidelines, what you say in your country about this?

Thank you so much


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Re: Oral sex with Precum in my mouth, hiv risk?
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 03:16:47 PM »
Carlos, nothing except sex with your own hand is 100% safe. But longtime experience and studies have shown that the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse.

Sure giving oral could be a risk if you have a deep, fresh bleeding wound in your mouth, but that would hardly be the circumstance under which you would be having oral sex.

No matter how people worry about other possibilities, it's really about unprotected intercourse. I suggest you stop searching on the net as all you will do is find "information" to feed your fears and all to no good purpose. 
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Re: Oral sex with Precum in my mouth, hiv risk?
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 05:15:26 PM »
Muchas Gracias Andy.

I hope that i'm not infected, because now (15 days after bj) i have a little sore throat.

I think that I will wait 45 days and i go to making test.

Thank you so much again.

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Re: Oral sex with Precum in my mouth, hiv risk?
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 06:06:11 PM »
Hi Carlos Andy is correct , the HIV infections acquired sexually are from unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse . If we thought that it was possible for you to be infected in the manner you are concerned with we would be falling all over each other to tell you that you may have been exposed so that you could get tested and seek medical attention and avoid inadvertently infecting someone else .

Here are a few links that support our assessments that are science based and peer reviewed . Moderator JK provided this inforamtion for a memeber the other day so I lifted it from his post , Thanks JK .

Secretory leukocyte protease inhibitor (SLPI) in mucosal fluids inhibits HIV-I.
Wahl SM, McNeely TB, Janoff EN, Shugars D, Worley P, Tucker C, Orenstein JM.
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Laboratory of Immunology, NIDR, NIH, Bethesda, MD 20892, USA.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9456660

Mucosal and Plasma IgA from HIV-1-Exposed Uninfected Individuals Inhibit HIV-1 Transcytosis Across Human Epithelial Cells1
Claudia Devito*, Kristina Broliden2,*, Rupert Kaul†, Lennart Svensson‡, Kari Johansen‡, Peter Kiama†, Joshua Kimani†, Lucia Lopalco§, Stefania Piconi¶, Job J. Bwayo†, Francis Plummer†∥, Mario Clerici3 and Jorma Hinkula‡


http://www.jimmunol.org/content/165/9/5170.short

Secretory leukocyte protease inhibitor: a human saliva protein exhibiting anti-human immunodeficiency virus 1 activity in vitro.

T B McNeely, M Dealy, D J Dripps, J M Orenstein, S P Eisenberg, and S M Wahl

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC185219/

Identification of a CD36-related Thrombospondin 1–binding Domain in HIV-1 Envelope Glycoprotein gp120: Relationship to HIV-1–specific Inhibitory Factors in Human Saliva

René Crombie*‡, Roy L. Silverstein*, Clarinda MacLow*‡, S. Frieda A. Pearce*, Ralph L. Nachman*, and Jeffrey Laurence*‡


http://jem.rupress.org/content/187/1/25.abstract   

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Re: Oral sex with Precum in my mouth, hiv risk?
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 06:59:08 PM »
Also this:

The qualification we use at AIDSMEDS is based on three distinct and separate studies conducted over the course of two decades with serodiscordant couples. We do not rely on anecdotal evidence insofar as HIV transmission is concerned, especially not now, where the current state of the scientific and epidemiological art is as advanced as it is. With more people living longer and healthier lives, a large enough collection of serodiscordant couples has finally emerged to create blind studies where HIV transmission routes can be studied with scientific quantification.

Here are some of the  scientific findings.


No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS:  Volume 16(17)  22 November 2002  pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan

Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117

Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: Oral sex with Precum in my mouth, hiv risk?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2013, 05:00:08 AM »
Carlos,

Sore throat after giving oral? Nothing to do with hiv, but you might want to get that throat checked out for gonorrhea. That's right, gonorrhea.

It can be and (more often than most people realise) is transmitted orally. Both ways - you can get it in your throat from a penis and you can get it in your penis from a throat. Cases of oral gonorrhea have been on the rise in MSM populations for years now.

Chlamydia can also be transmitted orally, but oral gonorrhea is more common.

You should always keep in mind that most of the other STIs are MUCH more prevalent and more easily transmitted than hiv could ever hope to be.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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