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Author Topic: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies  (Read 3186 times)

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Offline Oceanbeach

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Three days ago I got some oral surgery and left with new teeth.  I wore the new teeth to bed, took them out the next morning and slept for like 18 hours.

I made chicken soup from scratch which lasted a couple of days.  Today, I made pancakes and found I can not eat while wearing my teeth.  When I swallow, the lower plate pops out of place.  I did try some Poligrip and found when you use too much, it goes everywhere, tomorrow, less is better.

I was in the hospital with PCP in 1996 and at 5'8" tall my height weight proportion is supposed to be 155 lbs (it was).  In the hospital I started weighing 135 lbs and have spent many years trying to put on some weight.  I weigh 130 right now and I am hungry but can not chew.   8)  Have the best day
Michael


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OH Michael , you cant afford to lose weight , can you drink insure to guard against losing more weight until you get it sorted out ?

Im recovering from an abscess and retreatment on an old root canal right now , I will have another done on Tuesday ... I wish I could lose 10 lbs. but the pain hasn't slowed me down , yet .

Get better and eat , eat , eat . 

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OH Michael , you cant afford to lose weight , can you drink insure to guard against losing more weight until you get it sorted out ?

Im recovering from an abscess and retreatment on an old root canal right now , I will have another done on Tuesday ... I wish I could lose 10 lbs. but the pain hasn't slowed me down , yet .

Get better and eat , eat , eat .

Oh Jeff,

I have lived with AIDS and on SSDI for 17 years and was always afraid, I would run out of food.  I would get my disability check on the third and it was gone paying bills.  I have impeccable credit but the food I got, I saved it for a day when there was none.   I never realized that it was an eating disorder.  I would like the Salmon basted in lemon basil butter at Scalas Bistro but I would need to remove my teeth to swallow.   8)  Have the best day
Michael 

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I wish I didn't have any teeth. I think it would make me marriage material! You can beat an egg and you can beat a drum but you can't beat a gummie!

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I wish I didn't have any teeth. I think it would make me marriage material! You can beat an egg and you can beat a drum but you can't beat a gummie!

Dearest Phillypinko,

I thought that once too but, I don't want any cock right now.  I want chocolate pudding! YUM!   8) Have the best day
Michael

Offline Oceanbeach

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With my new teeth, I feel just like a Victorius Secret model with wings and a photographer yelling "MORE TEETH!  LOOK BRAIN DEAD!"   8)  Have the best day
Michael

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Thanks, Michael, now I"ll have that song in my head all day lol.

I had all my teeth out in 1990, had to go a whole summer without anything because they could not get my dentures right.  Even today, I do not have lower teeth because the dental lab could never get it right.  They finally called in a specialist to make my top denture, but he changed employers before he was able to do my bottom one.  So, I've only used top teeth (denture) since 1990.  And I find the only things I cannot chew are like nuts, hard chips, tough steak.  I can chew most anything else.  And I have such a bad over-bite that people cannot tell I do not have bottom teeth.

But of course it was a while before I could do that.  Luckily I was staying with my parents when I had my teeth pulled and was able to take advantage of homemade shakes and stuff like mac and cheese (and chocolate pudding).

So I commiserate with you.  I did not like putting my teeth in right away after surgery and ended up taking them out until the gum healed more.  I also use Fixodent, in thin strips.  Of course you'll find your groove.  Just wanted you to know you're not suffering alone. :)
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You are not suffering alone , the treatments I have had for Hodgkin's and the drug I was taking for osteoporosis have left both Teeth and Jaw in a sorry state . Currently in the middle off being fitted for a new bottom plate. On Saturday with my mind Else where morning granola and yogurt but paid to front top tooth.

I am lucky in that I can eat with what I have , however after eating anything I have to remove plate and clean and like you I strive to keep what little weight I have on.

A pint off Yogurt full fat Banana /maple syrup / powder weight gain protein mix / full cream milk , sesame/poppy seeds milk shake will get about 1000 Cal's into you.
Avocados are high in Cal's more so if you like olive oil, and I should buy shares in Hagan-Das.

Anyway good luck as wise and lovely Betty said you will find your grove
Michael
"If we can find the money to kill people, we can find the money to help people ."  Tony Benn

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Dearest Phillypinko,

I thought that once too but, I don't want any cock right now.  I want chocolate pudding! YUM!   8) Have the best day
Michael

OK Ladies, First we are going to sing...

Phillypinko will sing the Pointer Sisters and I will fill in with a commercial.  OK Philly, somewhere in the key of C.

(philly) Bet you got some dick on the side, doncha know it baby,
bet you got some dick on the side.
(me) Who says you shouldin have instant puddin J.E.L.L.O.
(philly) Bet you got some dick on the side, doncha know it baby,
bet you got some dick on the side.   8)  Have the best day
Michael

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You are not suffering alone , the treatments I have had for Hodgkin's and the drug I was taking for osteoporosis have left both Teeth and Jaw in a sorry state . Currently in the middle off being fitted for a new bottom plate. On Saturday with my mind Else where morning granola and yogurt but paid to front top tooth.

I am lucky in that I can eat with what I have , however after eating anything I have to remove plate and clean and like you I strive to keep what little weight I have on.

A pint off Yogurt full fat Banana /maple syrup / powder weight gain protein mix / full cream milk , sesame/poppy seeds milk shake will get about 1000 Cal's into you.
Avocados are high in Cal's more so if you like olive oil, and I should buy shares in Hagan-Das.

Anyway good luck as wise and lovely Betty said you will find your grove
Michael

Hey Theyer,

I had gotten a PM from another Forum member who told me of their personal difficulties and losing teeth after a decade of AIDS medications.  I mentioned that AIDS medications are Class IV drugs like crystal meth, only AIDS meds have a purpose.  I have lived on the Russian River, I am there now.  People in this community are quite used to living with tweakers.  They were an endangered species, protected by the Sheriff and 8 years later, they still are.

In such a community which has a high population of gay men with AIDS, taking medications and the tweakers, many of which are dual diagnosis.  Dental was long removed from the Medi-Cal roster of services.  In California, dental colleges such as UCSF Dental will extract teeth but ...  if you need a filling or a cleaning, they will accept cash, check or credit card.   8)  Have the best day
Michael 

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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2013, 02:52:34 PM »
Thanks, Michael, now I"ll have that song in my head all day lol.

I had all my teeth out in 1990, had to go a whole summer without anything because they could not get my dentures right.  Even today, I do not have lower teeth because the dental lab could never get it right.  They finally called in a specialist to make my top denture, but he changed employers before he was able to do my bottom one.  So, I've only used top teeth (denture) since 1990.  And I find the only things I cannot chew are like nuts, hard chips, tough steak.  I can chew most anything else.  And I have such a bad over-bite that people cannot tell I do not have bottom teeth.

But of course it was a while before I could do that.  Luckily I was staying with my parents when I had my teeth pulled and was able to take advantage of homemade shakes and stuff like mac and cheese (and chocolate pudding).

So I commiserate with you.  I did not like putting my teeth in right away after surgery and ended up taking them out until the gum healed more.  I also use Fixodent, in thin strips.  Of course you'll find your groove.  Just wanted you to know you're not suffering alone. :)

Oh Lovely Betty,

I do that on purpose...  When I was in high school, we had Jefferson Airplane perform at our prom.  I asked Grace Slick to sing that song, Surrealistic Pillow had just been released, she did and I developed a crush on the singer and still do.  Big Brother and the Holding Company, featuring Janis Joplin performed at one of our high school dances and Lydia Pense with Cold Blood at another.  Imagine if you will...  The people who became the Silicon Valley, melted on the floor of the Fillmore while a smokin hot blonde with a horn section sang, "I just want to make love to you."  Her band had twins playing sax.  It was the Summer of Love and everyone wanted to be part of it.  That was San Francisco, 40 years ago, let me tell you about the other night.

I had just gotten out of Oral Surgery, got on the bus home and realized, I have left my keys inside.  My partner was gone for the weekend, I could not get inside.  I needed someplace warm to stay until morning.  The one room I found which I couls afford has a requirement of a $300 balance on a credit card for deposit if I smoked or had a pet, apparently everyone pays that.  The YMCA was closed, the police tried to connect me with a shelter but, I went to the subway and found a hidden place on the Muni level at Civic Center.  I was warm there and was wearing jeans, leather jacket, heavy corduroy shirt with a muffler and a sock hat.  Late that night the Muni and Bart stations closed, I was found and told to leave.

There is a Chase Bank vestibule outside on Market and 8th with a wall behind and on 2 sides which blocked the wind, it was going to be a long cold night.  I wrapped myself up as tight as I could and the clock stopped ticking, it was going to be a long cold night.  After awhile, it became unbearable and I went down the stairwell to the subway and found the homeless were sleeping there.  I picked a spot, someone woke up, said something and I said, I am just cold.  I got some sleep.  The difference between me and the homeless is they had blankets, I was wearing designer labels from Macy's.

Around 6:AM, the gates were lifted and I went down into the Muni level for some warmth, a guard was kicking me out because Muni had not opened yet.  I had a ticket, and climbed under a turnstyle to find a warmer place.  As the city came to life, I went back on street level and went to the Starbucks next to the ATM vestibule for a large coffee.  There was no bathroom and I was directed to the Hotel Whitcome next door.  Hotel staff was standing by the men's room door and refused to allow me inside to use the toilet.  I very clearly said, "fuck You!" poured my coffee on the floor and left.  A cafe was opening and the door was wide open, I closed it on my way in because I was chilled to the bone.  The waitress would not allow the door to be closed and I left.  Burger King on the corner was opening, their bathrooms were closed for repair, another Starbucks did not have facilities.  The public bathrooms at Yerba Buena Center for the Arts was also closed, I pissed in their fountain and took the next bus North to Santa Rosa and the bus to the Russian River.

San Francisco has 722,000 year round residents and 1 million visitors every day.  If you have money, you are welcome.  Most businesses post signs on the door "the rest rooms are not for public use".  I am a resident, registered to vote in Scott Weiner's district and after a night in a frozen hell, a person with AIDS, fresh out of a surgery, can not get the respect of the use of a god damn bathroom.  I missed 2 days of meds but, I am healing in my own house and I don't want to leave and I thought since the hangings, I didn't think I could ever sleep in this house again.   8)  Have the best day
Michael   

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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2013, 04:14:38 PM »
Oh Lovely Betty,

I really do that on purpose...  Here is a Sam & Dave tune, performed by Lydia Pense and Cold Blood.  Imagine if you will...  It is 5 AM and a chilling 42 degrees, you get out of your car to use the ATM and there is a pile of laundry, you can hear it sing...

I don't know what you've got
but it's getting to me

It makes my cold nights hot
Hot chills just go right through me

Oh the power is in your hands
You got me hummin
You got me hummin

I wake up early at night
I can't go back to sleep
I even walk on red lights
Tied tongue when I try to speak

Oh the power is in your hands
You got me hummin
You got me hummin

It was cold enough to do the instrumentals without the instruments.   8)  Have the best day

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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2013, 09:05:20 PM »
Häagen-Dazs chocolate ice cream...it'll put 10lbs on in two months...of course, you have to eat a quart each day...I know, I did!!! But that was after my Egrifta crash and burn when I quit taking it. Talk about PYSCHO!!!

Anyway, at least it's a tasty way to gain weight.
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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2013, 12:08:58 AM »
OK Ladies, First we are going to sing...

Phillypinko will sing the Pointer Sisters and I will fill in with a commercial.  OK Philly, somewhere in the key of C.

(philly) Bet you got some dick on the side, doncha know it baby,
bet you got some dick on the side.
(me) Who says you shouldin have instant puddin J.E.L.L.O.
(philly) Bet you got some dick on the side, doncha know it baby,
bet you got some dick on the side.   8)  Have the best day
Michael
Im having flashbacks to the gloryhole tearooms I frequented as a teenager at the jersey shore. It got me out of bed in the morning knowing there were 80 year olds with no teeth waiting there for me. THOSE WERE THE DAYS MY FRIEND! I can almost hear the seagulls screaming.

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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2013, 12:34:20 AM »
I wish I didn't have any teeth. I think it would make me marriage material! You can beat an egg and you can beat a drum but you can't beat a gummie!

Well Gummi Bear, I am a married lady, have no teeth and am getting a new car out of it.  That hard workin man is susceptible to song lyrics, like the Lovely Betty.  I called his office today to sing...
"well I'm not braggin babe so don't put me down
but. I've got the fastest set of wheels in town
Just a little duece coupe with a flathead mill
she'll walk a thunderbird like she's standin still
She ported and relieved and she's stroked and bored,
She'll do a 100 and 40 in the top end floored."  He said street rods are out of the question.   8)  Have the best day
Michael

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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2013, 12:39:11 AM »
Häagen-Dazs chocolate ice cream...it'll put 10lbs on in two months...of course, you have to eat a quart each day...I know, I did!!! But that was after my Egrifta crash and burn when I quit taking it. Talk about PYSCHO!!!

Anyway, at least it's a tasty way to gain weight.

I once worked in a Jazz club in Long Beach, around the corner was the Haagen Daz Theater.  The story teller sat in a chair on the second level, ate Haagen Daz as he told his story and the actors were hidden within the audience.  When his pint of ice cream was finished, the show was over.  I didn't go often   8)  Have the best day
Michael

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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2013, 12:11:36 PM »
I have added some blender drinks of soy protein and whey protein and the bathroom scale shows a 2 lb increase.  I used to have big teeth like Julia Roberts but I bought Susan Sarandon's mouth and I am finding the voice does not project as it once did.

I am going to wear my teeth today and read out loud to learn how to better enunciate.  What am I reading today?   I am so very glad you asked, I have a leather bound collection edition of Gullivers Travels.   8)  Have the best day
Michael

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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #17 on: May 24, 2013, 04:43:06 PM »
Hi
Its good to know you are keeping up with things. Best wishes.

Joel
Poz Bear Type in Philadelphia

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Re: When the tooth is found to be lies, and all the joy within you dies
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2013, 07:41:45 PM »
Hi Joel,

I'm sorry I missed you, I don't come around here much any more.  Have the best day
Michael
(Who found out a person might never eat corn on the cob again after oral surgery)
« Last Edit: June 26, 2013, 07:45:41 PM by Oceanbeach »

 


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