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Offline beatendown

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Guillain Barre?
« on: May 18, 2013, 07:16:04 PM »
I got a little curious and decided to try what it'd be like to fuck a dude. I found this guy on the internet saying he wanted to try some things too. We met up in his dorm room (he was a freshman). He said he was disease free and had never done anything with a guy before, but in retrospect, I find it hard to believe. We were both nervous (or I thought he was). My experience is as follows: mutual masturbation, protected anal sex (I topped), switching to body contact where he was thrusting against my pelvis (no condom, but not insertive), followed by me topping him again with a new condom. I don't believe the condoms broke. I pulled the condom off with a tissue.

I was sick at the time with a sinus infection. Two weeks post-sex, I developed this 'buzz' through my legs and arms and tremendous fatigue. My lymph nodes were swollen. The doctor put me on antibiotics (amox). I got over the 'sinus infection,' and it seemed that briefly, the buzzing stopped in my legs. Once I was off the antibiotics, the buzzing returned. Then, I developed this rash around my neck/collar after a really humid/hot night at work. It looked like a sunburn. It lasted about three days, but you can still see a faint outline of where it was. I hoped it was heat rash. It's been over two months and I still have this buzzed feeling in my legs and arms. My muscles feel weaker, too. And, I've had intermittent burning sensations in my upper arms/shoulders. The doc put me on Zoloft because he expected the buzzing/shaking feeling was anxiety. After a week on it, it has had the reverse effect on my anxiety and didn't stop the buzzed feeling. To top it off, up until this week (week 9), I had a 'full', uncomfortable feeling in my left flank.

I took the RNA PCR test and the ELISA at the two week mark and they were both negative. I've taken the ELISA (out of anxiety) at the six week, eighth week, and the ninth week (this past week on day 65). All negative. I'm terrified that between now and the twelfth or thirteenth week (day 84 or 90) I'm going to test positive.

There's almost no info I can find on the net that can explain this shakiness/buzzed feeling other than PN or Guillain Barre. I'd also like to mention that the anxiety followed the buzzed feeling, not vice versa.

 1. I know most convert within 6 weeks, but if I have an autoimmune problem like Guillain Barre/PN/CIDP, would I convert later than 9 weeks? Is there any data to back any of this up? I can't find any. I know most late converters are IV drug abusers, cancerous, etc.

2. Does the sensation I've described sound familiar to acute HIV infections?

2. Could his thrusting into my pelvic region or my jacking him/then me off have infected me from his pre-cum?

3. Is there any way that infectious fluids from his rectum could have leaked out with lube and lodged under the condom? The condom remained well-over the head of my dick, but I can't be sure the condom didn't move up and down along part of the shaft at some point.

I never thought I'd be this guy. I've texted the guy and he said he's 100% sure he is disease-free and that he was tested on Spring Break (the week prior to us hooking up, so he could have been infected and tested negative). I texted him again and asked if there was any possible chance he could be HIV+ and he never texted me back. It's made me frantic. HIV is in my dreams and every waking thought. I'm so afraid that between now (week 9...week 10 [70 days] will be on Monday at midnight) and week 12 or 13 I'm going to test positive.

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Re: Guillain Barre?
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2013, 07:35:51 PM »
Hi Down , you would have known if the condom broke , they are designed to fail catastrophically when they break . The condom would have been in tatters and you would have noticed . Condoms worn correctly are a very reliable barrier against the HIV virus . Your condom was worn correctly or it would have broke .

You had safe sex , nothing you did was a risk for HIV , so if this is the only incident of concern in the last 3 months and since you didn't have a risk in this incident the HIV test you took is conclusive and you do not have HIV .

Your symptoms are not specific to HIV , that why we do NOT discuss symptoms . If you are feeling unwell go see your doctor . 

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: Horrible Feeling
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2013, 11:38:05 AM »
Well, I'm back. I never tested positive for that incident in March. However, I recently received a blowjob from a guy that I'm not sure about (11/14/2013). He also fingered me a bit (I told him to stop cause it hurt). I think it's possible his finger had pre-cum on it, as he had been jacking himself a bit. Three days following the incident I felt vice-like pain in my neck. My neck lymph nodes swollen, my neck has been stiff, I felt nausea, and the back of my head felt like the worst tension headache of my life. No fever or sore throat. Extremely fatigued. Today is the first day I haven't felt totally crappy, like it might be going away.

He said he doesn't have any STIs, including being HIV negative. But I have a hard time believing it considering these symptoms and the fact that he hadn't been tested since summer. He finally agreed to be tested next week as I can't be tested conclusively for HIV for three months now. I'm not sure why I'm here actually. I fully expect to test positive.

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Re: Guillain Barre?
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2013, 11:47:23 AM »
You did not have risk , HIV isn't transmitted from fingering even if there is cum or precum .

HIV is fragile and isn't infectious once outside of a human body . Slight changes in temperature and PH levels damages and renders HIV unable to infect . The same goes for a blow job and saliva inhibits and damages HIV as well rendering it unable to infect .

Your symptoms could be from a many other things but its not HIV if this is your only concern since last testing . If you are sick go see your doctor and find out why .

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Re: Guillain Barre?
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 07:17:53 PM »
There has to have been some risk. There's no way this is anxiety. I just started getting a rash on my chest. Swollen cervical lymph nodes, pain in my occipital region, nausea, and now a rash, approximately 1 week following an unprotected blowjob + fingering. Couldn't precum from his hand have entered my bloodstream if his nails scratched my rectum? I mean at this point it seems like I either have HIV or Mono. Mono takes longer than a week to incubate and present symptoms. I'm so upset. I just have a feeling this time it's different. I'm going to get a RNA PCR tomorrow and in to my physician if I can.

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Re: Guillain Barre?
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2013, 07:23:05 PM »
You are wasting your money on a RNA PCR test and run the risk of getting a FALSE positive result  . If you cant accept that you did not have a risk and you do not have HIV its time to consider counseling for your fear . If you are sick see your doctor and tell him whats going on because you have conclusively tested negative for HIV and its not whats making you sick  .

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Re: Guillain Barre?
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2015, 04:10:26 PM »
I removed your new thread
Please only post in this one thread no matter how long between visits or the subject matter . You can find this thread by going to your profile and selecting show own post and it will take you here . It helps us to help you when you keep all your thoughts or questions in one thread and it helps other readers to follow the discussion. Additional threads will be deleted.

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Re: Guillain Barre?
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2015, 12:45:47 PM »

I need an expert's opinion.

Back in June, I gave a guy an unprotected blowjob. He did not ejaculate in my mouth.

Two weeks later, my neck got very stiff, my jaw got very sore, and my throat was mildly sore. I was getting over a cold so I dismissed it when my GP said my lymph nodes were fine and my throat looked fine. However, the sore throat persisted. The neck/jaw pain has waxed and waned.

At six weeks, I tested negative for HIV via 4th generation and RNA-PCR (as well as every other STD). My throat is still somewhat sore and now I have a dry cough/post-nasal drip, my lymph areas (groin, axillae, neck) and hip joints are sore, and my stool has been soft (hot). I'm still planning on testing at 3 months.

I know giving an unprotected blowjob is considered low-risk, but at what point can I say that these symptoms are related to something else? If I were having symptoms r/t HIV for this long, is it reasonable to think I would have testing positive by now? I am not immunocompromised and I have reasonably good oral health. It's just unnerving to read about people on this forum who say they acquired HIV from oral sex.

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Re: Guillain Barre?
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2015, 12:50:42 PM »
Oral sex is not a risk for infection.  HIV is a very fragile virus.  Its outer surface becomes damaged, immediately when leaving the host; where changes in temperature, pH and moisture levels, alter the HIV outer surface, rendering it unable to infect.  The mouth is another barrier, as it protects us from pathogens that we encounter daily and it contains over a dozen proteins and enzymes that alter the HIV leaving it unable to infect.

There have been no fewer than three separate serodiscordant couples studies (where one person is HIV positive, the other negative.) These couples were tracked for three. five and ten years. The couples used condoms for penetrative vaginal and anal sex, but NO BARRIER at all for oral sex. Any kind of oral sex.

These studies yielded NO infections.

You have reliably tested negative and if you cannot accept that you are negative, you need to consult a professional to discuss your irrational fears regarding HIV.



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