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Offline 2blessed

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Alcohol and meds
« on: April 16, 2013, 06:00:01 PM »
Ok I'm 22 and I like to go out with my friends from time to time of course I'm going to slow down because of my diagnosis and I know that drinking an abundance of alcohol is not the healthiest thing in the world. BUT do I have to stop altogether? Like I'm naturally a shy person so alcohol can get me to be the me I am around my friends. I start my atripla tonight and I just wanted to know if going all out like once a month is a really really bad thing. And if it isn't is there a certain amount of alcohol that I should limit myself to and how do I still take my meds but drink the alcohol on the same day

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2013, 06:01:09 PM »
No, you don't have to stop drinking alcohol altogether.
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2013, 06:08:34 PM »
No.

I have a couple Margaritas a week, and sometimes I've been known to take my meds with a beer.

Moderation is the key.  ;)

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 06:47:12 PM »
As Moderator Ann is wont to say - all things in moderation, including moderation!

If you're a seriously heavy drinker (more than three drinks a day) you might want to talk honestly about that with your doctor. S/he might swap your regimen for one that's more gentle on the liver. But we're talking long term hard drinking there, not the occasional party.
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Offline 2blessed

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2013, 08:22:26 PM »
Thank you! I don't drink everyday at all I usually just go out every other weekend which is when i tend to drink

Offline charlienj

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2013, 08:50:05 PM »
Na, you're cool.  I get down, often, on the weekend  and my numbers keep getting better.  Obviously if you're not seeing the results you want to see- I would slow your roll.

Also, just FYI, all substances are not good for your liver.  You're already taking one drug every day that your liver is working to clean out, alcohol is just another drug your liver is working to clean.  Make sure you give your liver a rest or risk liver problems.

Offline 2blessed

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2013, 09:26:55 PM »
Na, you're cool.  I get down, often, on the weekend  and my numbers keep getting better.  Obviously if you're not seeing the results you want to see- I would slow your roll.

Also, just FYI, all substances are not good for your liver.  You're already taking one drug every day that your liver is working to clean out, alcohol is just another drug your liver is working to clean.  Make sure you give your liver a rest or risk liver problems.

Thank you! I've cut down how much I drink when I go out usually it's just two cups then I'm good to go...when I'm planning going out should I just take the med a little earlier than normal?

Offline charlienj

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2013, 09:53:50 PM »
Na, you should definitely take it at the same time every day.  It's a forgiving drug, but that's at least the goal.




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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2013, 10:46:47 PM »
I used to to drink really heavily, like 6+ drinks 5 or more nights a week before my diagnosis. I have by no means quit drinking, but now i generally only really drink one night a week. This is more due to just trying to live a healthier life in general, work out more, and focus more on the things that really make me happy. i think a positive diagnosis can be a good wake up call for some people, certainly was for me!

i have noticed that now when i do drink like i used to my hangovers are EPIC. This is most likely due to my body not being used to the hard partying any more and not HIV related. When i first started taking my meds, i would get really nauseous after one or two drinks, but thats totally gone now and im back to drinking straight whiskey again.

so, take it easy if you feel like it but you should be fine. cheers!
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Offline Beyondstatus

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2013, 11:03:11 PM »
Ok I'm 22 and I like to go out with my friends from time to time of course I'm going to slow down because of my diagnosis and I know that drinking an abundance of alcohol is not the healthiest thing in the world. BUT do I have to stop altogether? Like I'm naturally a shy person so alcohol can get me to be the me I am around my friends. I start my atripla tonight and I just wanted to know if going all out like once a month is a really really bad thing. And if it isn't is there a certain amount of alcohol that I should limit myself to and how do I still take my meds but drink the alcohol on the same day

Being 23, I wondered the same thing when I started my meds. I've been on Atripla for a month and probably have gone out and really drank twice, I've found no adverse side effects so far. Just take it slow the first time to see how your body reacts. Happy drinking  8)
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Offline weasel

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2013, 05:06:52 PM »

     OK i'm like 58   :o

           I drank in the past , I drink now . For the most part because
    I am also shy  !

    Before Meds I drank very heavily everyday , I drank like a fish , I now
  keep my binges downs to  a few times a week  . I have not had any health
 issues , I rarely get a hang over , when i do I quit for weeks and weeks   :-[

   Hope you are doing well ,  You don't sound like you drink all that much .

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2013, 02:01:25 AM »
Hope you are doing well ,  You don't sound like you drink all that much .

P.s.  Take your MEDS  same time everyday  ;)

That last part bears repeating. Unlike many other drugs, you really do need to take your anti-retroviral pill(s) at around the same time to keep the little bastard inside you fully suppressed and unable to mutate.

Left alone, HIV makes billions of copies of itself each day, but it's not actually very good at it and has no correction mechanism. Each of those incorrectly replicated virions is a potential drug-resistant mutation – resistant to your (and our) drugs. For your own long-term health (and everyone else's) you want to keep a steady supply of anti-retrovirals in your body to keep replication (and mutation) down to a minimum.

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Offline LiveWithIt

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 01:23:22 PM »
Just drink in moderation socially and you will be fine.

If I go out on Saturday night I will have 4 drinks over 4 or 5 hours.  I used to drink when I had a friend who I used to have dinner with twice a month, wine with dinner and a stronger drink watching a movie.

I'm not a big drinker, haven't been drunk in over 20 years and can easily go a month without a drink if I don't go out.
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Offline buginme2

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 04:17:55 PM »
1.  Tell your doctor how much you drink so they can monitor your blood work to make sure your liver is healthy.

2.  Make sure your Hep A/B vaccines are up to date. 

3.  When you are drinking/partying either take your medication before you go out or set up a system to remind you to take them.  The problem with drinking or partying is that when you are drunk or high its easy to forget/pass out/do something other than taking your meds.  Missed doses = bad. 

Offline 2blessed

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2013, 05:49:30 PM »
Hey all I started the atripla and i haven't had any horrible side effects except yesterday I felt like I had a hangover until I ate something and I had a dream that I got into an argument with TLC...I thank you guys for the suggestions as far as drinking is concerned it's really made me happy to think I can go out and get down with my bad self lol

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2013, 06:08:50 PM »
Do you mean The Learning Channel, or Tender Loving Care?

In my first week with Atripla, I had one incredible dream. Unfortunately, no more. Had issues with sleeping, so I now fly with butterflies, Lunesta.
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Offline 2blessed

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2013, 06:35:45 PM »
Do you mean The Learning Channel, or Tender Loving Care?

In my first week with Atripla, I had one incredible dream. Unfortunately, no more. Had issues with sleeping, so I now fly with butterflies, Lunesta.

Lol no I mean the singing group TLC

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2013, 06:52:51 PM »
That sounds a lot more scary and threatening  :)
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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2013, 07:32:08 PM »
I've noticed that I generally get sick(er) if I mix too many drinks  and HIV meds. Beyond a point it really isn't worth puking at 4 am and you learn to regulate.
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Offline 2blessed

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2013, 07:44:41 PM »
That sounds a lot more scary and threatening  :)

Lol it was funny after I woke up because I looked at my tv and was sorta daring them to pop back up lol when I told my best friend he just looked at me like I had lost my marbles

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Re: Alcohol and meds
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2013, 07:46:22 PM »
I've noticed that I generally get sick(er) if I mix too many drinks  and HIV meds. Beyond a point it really isn't worth puking at 4 am and you learn to regulate.

Yea I don't usually get sick when I go out because I'm not really drinking yo get wasted just to open up a bit more

 


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