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Author Topic: PSORIASIS Itching UGH  (Read 2984 times)

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Offline hozer

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« on: February 19, 2007, 12:15:11 AM »
Psoriasis sufferer here .. looking for those with this disease and/or eczema --  they are not exactly the same but one tends to come with the other..

I have been dealing with itchy skin for months --- and it's getting annoying. I actually came down to realizing I def had HIV when my psoriasis jumped from a 1% body coverage to a 95% body rash/scaling/irratiation in 30 days time.. Doc said it was sterp or HIV -- something was attacking T cells

so that's it.. I'm going to a dermotologist now -- I'm on Soriatane and Zyertec to stop it-- but the itching won't die -- it's better but still annoying --

I find salt baths to start then end with baby oil is the best but it wears off after 12 hours -- two baths a day is ok now that i'm working part time and living at home but i think once i get my life back together-- i need to get this resolved.

also -- my joints are starting to hurt a lot more --- arthrisis is a complecation of psoriasis -- any advice here? AGain --- I'm juicing and following the needs to lower inflamation of the joints but it's not doing much. Can I take advil every day --- is something better for my joints i can take daily? here is my current intake:

 soriatane 25mg
 zertec 10mg
 500mg vit-c


 seroquel 100mg

I'm going to go back to applying coco-butter to my whole body again but advice is appreciated.

thanks again

PS -- I think I'm eating too many refined sugars and that's the big kicker-in my butt -- i just don't want to admit it -- it's junk food or smoking -- i quit so much at once, my weight is jumping really fast and i wonder if this is all just bad diet?
« Last Edit: February 19, 2007, 12:19:39 AM by hozer »
--== hoZer ==--
diagnosed 10-06

02-07 cd4: 560  vl: 220,000
12-06 cd4: ***  vl: 570,000
11-06 cd4: 440  vl: 660,000

Offline allopathicholistic

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 12:27:25 PM »
I think I'm eating too many refined sugars and that's the big kicker-in my butt -- i just don't want to admit it -- it's junk food or smoking -- i quit so much at once, my weight is jumping really fast and i wonder if this is all just bad diet?

Sorry to hear 'bout the psoriasis and the joints issue.  :(

Glad to hear you're adding omega 3's and juicing to improve your diet since you junk food and smoking   :)

In case you don't know there's a test you can take called the BIA. It stands for "bioelectrical impedance analysis" and it measures something called TBW (total body water) which shows if you're dehydrated. The test also gives you your BMI and other stats. It's a simple 1 minute test and I got it done for free at my ASO. I was glad I did it because it was so fast and it showed that I was adequately hydrated


Offline fondeveau

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2007, 12:36:50 PM »
My condition is mild enough that I didn't know I had psoriasis at all until the doctor told me the dry looking patches on my knees and elbows were symptomatic.  But, I can tell you I started Atripla and within a month my scalp didn't itch at all and no more dry patches.  Have you been on meds long?

Offline whizzer

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 06:18:08 PM »

HIV does attack T-cells (duh, of course), but that's not what made the psoriasis worse.  HIV, bastard that it is, causes an increase in tumor necrosis factor (TNF).  The HIV envelope protein GP-120 binds to a CD4 cell.  It induces the CD4 to produce TNF.  This TNF circulates in the bloodstream and 'wakes up' resting CD4 cells, which allows more HIV replication, which results in MORE TNF production, and on and on.  Psoriasis is caused by an overabundance of TNF.  The TNF migrates to the dermis and causes overproduction of epidermal cells, which build up to form psoriasis plaques.  A similar mechanism can happen in the joints, resulting in psoriatic arthritis.

Treatment of the underlying HIV infection is essential to improving psoriasis.  Your psoriasis should get better when your viral load drops.  Yours isn't dropping very rapidly.  Did you have a genotype done before starting meds?  Does your ID doc know about the supplements you take?  I'm specifically concerned about the garlic.  Garlic supplements (as opposed to garlic used in cooking)  SERIOUSLY affect the PI Invirase.  It is unknown whether it affects other PIs, but some surmise that it may.  Bottom line:  STOP TAKING GARLIC SUPPLEMENTS !!!!!  They could be lowering your levels of Reyataz, resulting in poor viral control.

Secondly, Reyataz can have some hepatic toxicity, as you may know.  Psoriatane is notorious for affecting the liver as well.  In fact, over half the people who start Psoriatane have to stop it because their liver enzymes go sky-high.  If you are going to bomb your poor liver with both these drugs, you should be followed very, VERY closely.  Particularly your bilirubin,  ALT, and AST levels.  I don't advocate stopping the Psoriatane at all,  just watch your liver.  It may be necessary to change to a more liver-friendly PI.

You may find that when your viremia is better controlled, that topical anti-psoriatics will control the condition.

Offline coltsteele

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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2007, 07:55:38 PM »
Thanks for the info on psoriasis. I've had it for a 6 weeks or so. Started while I was on Kaletra/Truvada, seems to be getting some better since I switchted 3 weeks ago to Atripla.

I'm using T-Gel Extra Strength shampoo which has 1% tar in it, plus every other day (at a friend's suggestion) I massage baby oil into my scalp. It seems to be getting better.

Initially, I thought I was just having a bad reaction to the climate ... moved from South FL to the midwest and the winter the past month has been somewhat harsh.


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