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Author Topic: How far have we gone?  (Read 7523 times)

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Offline Ann

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2013, 05:25:31 AM »
Yes just like companies in Europe substitute horse meat instead of beef, and sell it as beef 

You will find unscrupulous companies and people no matter where you go in the world.

Something I've always said; "People are people wherever you may find them. There are angels and there are assholes of every creed and culture, in every nation and on every continent. We are all of the same race - the human race."
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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2013, 11:11:23 AM »
given the lax/non-existent regulatory framework for many industries there

Sounds like a Republican dreamland!
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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2013, 02:52:52 PM »
Okay, let me explain. I was facetiously responding to mecch's post where he said something about capitalism controlling a "cure." Since capitalist countries have led and still lead in AIDS research I posted what was an obvious tongue in cheek reference to the stunning research being done in China and North Korea. So you see, it actually was kinda-sorta on topic. I freely admit that I have no inside information regarding North Korea and AIDS research. If I had to guess I would say it didn't exist. Or a cure for AIDS for that matter. You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

I didn't get your first reply to Mecch as, in my opinion, China is capitalist. It's just State controlled, kinda-sorta.  ;)

There are some significant research trials that are taking place in India, however what with the several beauracratic hurdles and bottlenecks-and because of lack of funding several endeavours can't properly take flight. I did meet one top virologist who is trying to kick-start vaccine clinical trials specific to strain C of HIV (most prevalent in South Asia). He was trying to raise funds when I last spoke with him.
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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #53 on: April 05, 2013, 03:04:08 AM »
Kinda expected this thread to be a downer, but like how it turned into a discussion on Chinese investment into HIV research. ;) Ive been poz for 4 years now, visit the research section on here maybe once every couple months when im feeling down.  Mostly out of wishful thinking that some cure is just about to be discovered, and happier days are coming soon.  I dont like being told unrealistic expectations that something radically different is around the corner, but I kind of need that hope at the same time to keep going. 
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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #54 on: April 05, 2013, 01:11:51 PM »
i agree, this thread went totally off topic.
sign the petition launched by the aids policy project addressed to the nih aimed to increase the money needed to find the cure:

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Offline Dr.Strangelove

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #55 on: April 05, 2013, 05:22:26 PM »
I feel slightly responsible for that.
In retrospect, I wish I hadn't made that comment about Chinese research.
(And of course I hope I didn't offend anyone)


But these "How far have we gone?" threads never go very far, do they?

Offline wolfter

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #56 on: April 05, 2013, 06:43:33 PM »
How can a thread go too far off topic when a rhetorical question is posed?  It's not like asking who the President of the United States is.
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Offline sensual1973

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #57 on: April 06, 2013, 10:44:47 AM »
it is time to have a moderator who will make sure replies are related to main topicc.Going off topic is plain rude.
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Offline Jeff G

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #58 on: April 06, 2013, 10:58:23 AM »
it is time to have a moderator who will make sure replies are related to main topicc.Going off topic is plain rude.

maybe they should dock our pay ... oh wait a minute  , we don't get paid we are volunteers .

We would be getting criticized if we micro managed every post too ... so what to do . 

Offline wolfter

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #59 on: April 06, 2013, 11:32:06 AM »
How can a thread go too far off topic when a rhetorical question is posed?  It's not like asking who the President of the United States is.

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #60 on: April 06, 2013, 02:08:09 PM »
it is time to have a moderator who will make sure replies are related to main topicc.Going off topic is plain rude.
Hmmm, am I the only one that thinks moderator criticism is off topic here? Now that I think of it...criticism of moderator criticism is even more off topic.

Now, to get closer to the topic (note that my interpretation of the rhetorical question about how far we have gone includes musing about where we are going and where we may see biopharm advancements) here is a good article that explains China's biopharm development in some detail and I think supports Dr.Strange's comments.

http://tinyurl.com/China-BioPharm

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #61 on: April 06, 2013, 04:21:25 PM »
it is time to have a moderator who will make sure replies are related to main topicc.Going off topic is plain rude.

This forum is run by a "staff" of, at the most generous, six people. At best, two global moderators are on the forum. Usually one. Often, none. Thos eof us who moderate AM I INFECTED and this section do what we can when we can.

 Almost all of us are volunteers. You want moderators who will micromanage threads?

Willing to pay them/us?

Willing to pay for forum access?

Willing to pay for those who cannot pay for it?

Sorry for chirping in. That just rubbed me sideways.



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Offline Miss Philicia

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #62 on: April 07, 2013, 07:38:48 AM »
it is time to have a moderator who will make sure replies are related to main topicc.Going off topic is plain rude.

New to the internet, I presume?

oh wait a minute  , we don't get paid we are volunteers .


Oh, you get paid most assuredly. Those dingleberries of yours are very hard to extract every week. Crusty, nasty creatures.

On another note I think China-bashing is OH.SO.TEDIOUS and it is simply symptomatic of the insecurities of Western culture. Personally I never indulge in it.
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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #63 on: April 07, 2013, 03:09:52 PM »
On another note I think China-bashing is OH.SO.TEDIOUS and it is simply symptomatic of the insecurities of Western culture. Personally I never indulge in it.

Now that just made me  ;D
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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #64 on: April 07, 2013, 03:39:08 PM »
Hard to say how far you have gone if you don't know where the.finish line is. 

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #65 on: April 07, 2013, 05:26:47 PM »
it is time to have a moderator who will make sure replies are related to main topicc.Going off topic is plain rude.

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Re: How far have we gone?
« Reply #66 on: April 11, 2013, 01:21:15 AM »
   How far have we gone?
   From a death sentence ( like accelerated aging, in my opinion) to a manageable condition for those who have access to treatment.


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