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Author Topic: Unprotected fellatio and cunnilingus - assuming high viral load and canker sore  (Read 1727 times)

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Offline worriedguy186

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Hi,

This forum has been absolutely great and thanks for all the support that you guys are doing to all of the worried minds all over the world.

I am a 34 year old male and I was involved in unprotected fellatio and cunnilingus with a massage parlour worker on 15th Feb, along with a lot of french kissing and a little bit fingering (my only act of risk ever in my lie). She had told me that she has been tested for HiV and she is negative. My questions are after assuming that she had the highest viral load (assuming she got infected after her last test). There was NO vaginal or anal sex So, my questions are

1. I might have had a canker sore. Will the cunnilingus with a canker sore be of any issue - if she had a high viral load ?
2. If at all I had a cut in my penis (am sure I did not have), and she had a high viral load, can her saliva transmit HiV to me?
3. I had fingered her. Say, there was a small abrasion around the place which links the nail to my finger, will there be any issue in my fingering her (say she had a high viral load)
4. Would you recommend testing for me?
5. Still I will go ahead with testing at the end of 35 days so that my anxiety goes away. Can my test at 35 days (antibody test) be assumed to be conclusive.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Best regards and thanks in advance,
Worried

Offline Jeff G

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I read your post carefully and none of the things you mentions was or is a risk for HIV .

HIV is acquired sexually thorough unprotected vaginal and anal sex , not oral sex and specifically not cunnilingus in your case .
HIV transmission doesn't stand a chance of happening via female genitals to mouth - there are just too many obstacles on the oral route.

The first obstacle is the mouth itself. The mouth is a veritable fortress, standing against all sorts of pathogens we come into contact with every minute of our lives. It's a very hostile environment and saliva has been shown to contain over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage HIV.

HIV is a very fragile virus - literally. Its outer surface doesn't take kindly to changes in its preferred environment; slight changes in temperature, moisture content and pH levels all damage the outer surface. Importantly, it needs this outer surface to be intact before it can latch onto a few, very specific cell types and infect. 

Which leads to the second obstacle. HIV can only latch onto certain types of cells, cells which are not found in abundance in the mouth.

The third obstacle to transmission this way is having HIV present in the first place. The female secretion where HIV has been shown to be present is the cervicovaginal fluid. This fluid is actually a thick mucus that covers and protects the cervix.

The fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, located on either side of the vaginal opening. I have yet to discover one shred of evidence (and believe me, I've looked) that shows this lubricating fluid to have any more HIV present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are NOT infectious fluids.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED FURTHER HIV TESTING AT THIS TIME, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2013, 10:56:02 PM by Jeff G »

Offline worriedguy186

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Hello Jeff,

Thanks a ton for the quick response and for alleviating my fears. Meanwhile, your answers were mostly around my 1st, 2nd and 4th questions. Could you please answr my 3rd and 5th questions too? I am just repasting it here

3. I had fingered her. Say, there was a small abrasion around the place which links the nail to my finger, will there be any issue in my fingering her (say she had a high viral load)

5. Still I will go ahead with testing at the end of 35 days so that my anxiety goes away. Can my test at 35 days (antibody test) be assumed to be conclusive.

Thanks in advance,
Worried.

Offline Jeff G

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Hello Jeff,

Thanks a ton for the quick response and for alleviating my fears. Meanwhile, your answers were mostly around my 1st, 2nd and 4th questions. Could you please answr my 3rd and 5th questions too? I am just repasting it here

3. I had fingered her. Say, there was a small abrasion around the place which links the nail to my finger, will there be any issue in my fingering her (say she had a high viral load)

5. Still I will go ahead with testing at the end of 35 days so that my anxiety goes away. Can my test at 35 days (antibody test) be assumed to be conclusive.

Thanks in advance,
Worried.

3 . Is not a risk for HIV .

5 . You do not need to test for any situation you mentioned here . If you do choose to test for this no risk situation do so 6 weeks post what you think was an exposure and again at 3 months to confirm your negative test .

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Fingering, whether you have intact skin or not, is absolutely zero risk for HIV infection. It has never been implicated in HIV infection. We have had tens if not hundreds of thousands of people write this site asking about almost every conceivable fingering situation.

Fingering is absolutely safer sex, as is cunnilingus and receiving fellatio.

The only confirmed sexual transmission routes for HIV are unprotected anal and vaginal sex. And even then, the insertive partner's level of risk is significantly lower than the receptive partner.

Had you had a valid risk (you didn't) then a test at six weeks would be the earliest test that would be considered valid. However, the global gold standard for HIV testing is still three months.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Offline worriedguy186

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Thanks a ton - my dear friends.
You guys are just awesome.
Thanks a ton for your answers and spending time on it.

I will keep you posted if I get a chance and if I go for a test.

Thanks a lot,
Worried

 


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