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Author Topic: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)  (Read 2400 times)

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Offline Newhorizons

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May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« on: February 03, 2011, 04:02:50 PM »
Background:

I am a very careful person and would not put my health at risk for momentary pleasure...oh boy if only thats all it took! ::)
I was seeing someone for 2.5 months exclusively. On our last sexual encounter she held my penis and rubbed it against her vagina(hoping to insert maybe). I freaked out and told her we could not be doing this, she assured me again that she had an HIV test, even had her ex tested and she was not infected with anything. Two weeks later she ended things and cuts ties with me citing she had ex b/f issue she needs to deal with on her own. Looking back she acted like someone who was depressed and nearly suicidal(I even asked her about that then).


I got tested for everything 3 weeks later, of course they would be all negative then(may be useful in building a manslaughter cases against her).
I however, started getting and still have some of the symptoms of acute HIV infection.

-Coated tongue(not thrush, and can be brushed off since its rather light and more to the back)
-Dry mouth and lips(nearly gone now)
-Night sweats(gone now)
-Frequent urination at night or the urge to go(gone now)
-Chills
-Swollen and aching nymph nodes(under arms)

Now:

I am pretty sure I am HIV positive, have even gone as far as to tell my best friend and one of my siblings I maybe.
I also started planning how to best go about my life with this infection.

It has just been about 12 weeks but I am putting off re-testing because I taking a major exam that I have studying for in 2 weeks and I would not be able to focus(even less then) should I get my positive results.

The Question:

I would just like to know how well founded are my fears of HIV infection.

Thanks!   

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Re: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 04:07:37 PM »
You were not at risk of being infected with HIV. Rubbing genitals does not transmit the virus. If you get tested (and you do not need to be) you will test negative.

If you feel ill, see a doctor.

And you can keep all that prattle about charges for manslaughter to yourself. We don't put up with that sort of rubbish around here.

You do not have HIV infection.

MtD

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 04:11:24 PM »
Man, you are so far ahead of yourself and feeling and thinking of action against someone that has absolutely no basis in HIV science.

The only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Rubbing or frottage of penis against vaginal lips is absolutely not a risk.

So for you getting tested is only about if you need the inevitable negative result just for your peace of mind. Because you certainly don't need it in terms of having a risk because you didn't have one.

I have to say for you to be using language like gathering details for maybe building a case of manslaughter against the woman you were consenting as an adult to be with sexually would be ludicrous if it wasn't also so offensive. If you're old enough to be having sexual experiences then you are old enough to be responsible for yourself and your health as well. So grow up and stop all this totally unwarranted drama. If you can't be with someone without getting into this state then maybe you're just not ready to be sexually active. Think that over.

Meantime you had no risk for HIV. Period.

None of your symptoms are HIV specific but given your non-risk that's no surprise. If your "symptoms" perisst, discuss them with your doctor. They have nothing to do with HIV. Much of sounds like nerves more than anything else but check with your doctor to be sure.
Andy Velez

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Re: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 05:50:34 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

I was basing what I said on the notion that I was intentionally infected and not accidentally.
I know I was a consenting party and know the risks any sexual activity bares. My apologies for mentioning such and would in the future keep that to myself.

I may be a bit neurotic at times but I have my reasons and they are pretty crazy too :)

The reason it seems like I am ahead of myself here is that I always like to have a plan, as it help, If worst comes to pass I would be better able to handle it.

I will get retested, for my own peace of mind and any future partners potential safety, I think I owe them that much.
I will keep you guys posted. Hopefully its negative and I could come back here and be called an official nut case :)

   

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Re: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 05:54:41 PM »
Thanks for the replies.

I was basing what I said on the notion that I was intentionally infected and not accidentally.
I know I was a consenting party and know the risks any sexual activity bares. My apologies for mentioning such and would in the future keep that to myself.

I may be a bit neurotic at times but I have my reasons and they are pretty crazy too :)

The reason it seems like I am ahead of myself here is that I always like to have a plan, as it help, If worst comes to pass I would be better able to handle it.

I will get retested, for my own peace of mind and any future partners potential safety, I think I owe them that much.
I will keep you guys posted. Hopefully its negative and I could come back here and be called an official nut case :)

   


Well, whatever. Sexually active adults should be having annual sexual health screenings anyway.

Your three week test results will not change. You are HIV negative.

Be aware that persistent posting about non-risk situations and questioning conclusive negative HIV test results is contrary to the rules of this forum.

Please take the time to read our Welcome Thread and familiarise yourself with the posting guidelines.

MtD

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Re: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 06:25:02 PM »
The only way someone could willfully infect you is by drawing their own infectious blood into a syringe, and injecting you with it. And even then, there is no certainty that you would be infected.

Insofar as sex goes, the only way you can be infected heterosexually is by unprotected vaginal or anal sex. No amount of rubbing, using body fluids as lubricant, kissing, caressing, frottage, or fingering is going to get you infected with HIV.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Weird ailments after risk incident
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2015, 05:07:32 AM »
I have been dating someone new and after a month of dating we decided to get tested. The results are both negative for us.

Fast forward to about 2.5 weeks ago. I entered her without a condom(maybe less than a minute, like time factor is relevant) before putting on one.

A week ago I felt like I was coming down with a fever(warm body,chills and malaise). That went away after a couple days. I now have a swollen lymph node at the back of one ear, ever so slight night sweats and constant urination(as of tonight)

Was her test a false negative? She had not dated anyone for months before and said she tested negative after that. I have no reason to believe she is lying. We are open about these things. Her best friend(my cousin) assures me she hasn't dated(hooked up) with anyone since that relationship.

I know I had a risk factor but am I being paranoid about the ailments and overlooking we both tested negative prior to this?  I dont like treating her like a liar who is hiv positive.
Btw her favourite movie ever is Rent and watches is like once a month(when I remembered this I literally nearly shat myself)!!!


I hoped to avoid these situations by getting my partner tested but even after doing so I am still back here  :'(


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Re: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2015, 07:54:35 AM »
First of all the rule of this site is for members to always use the same thread when posting. All of your entries are together here and this is where you should write. Don't start a new thread. Thanks for your cooperation.

When a couple decide they are going to be monogamous they need to get tested together at a reliable testing point -- three months after the last unprotected intercourse.

There is nothing HIV specific about your symptoms. And in fact neither the presence nor the absence of symptoms will ever tell you anything reliably about your HIV status. Only and HIV test at the proper time will give you that information reliably.

It seems as if you need to have some conversation with your gf and tell her about your concerns. At the same time you ought to see your doctor and discuss your symptoms before you go jumping to conclusions about their cause.

Andy Velez

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Re: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2015, 08:35:05 AM »
Thanks for the reply. The symptoms do seem very related to ones I was having in this original post. I was diagnosed with an aliment then by my doctor and treated for it. Doesn't quite feel like the same thing(this is less severe) though it can reoccur.

I didn't realise that all post(even years after) needed to stay together. Forgive my ignorance.

I did speak to her and I dont want to keep being a paranoid @hole(which you see I can be). She is super supportive and is worried about me but assures me she doesn't have HIV and neither do I.
If I ask her to retest I even believe she would do this for me but at what cost to our relationship.


I would just assume the tests were reliable and that statistics were on my side.
These symptoms arent life threatening or majorly disruptive; should they persist my doctor would get a call though.


Thanks a billions folks.

Offline Andy Velez

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Re: May have been willfully infected(via rubbing)
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2015, 09:09:08 AM »
You're welcome.

Maybe this situation is worth discussing with a therapist? Just a thought.

Andy Velez

 


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