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Offline WillyWump

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Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« on: January 27, 2013, 05:20:52 PM »
I have my blood draw tomorrow and normally the nurse will handwrite write "Fast for 24 hours" on the  sheet, but none of the sheets have the notation..I dont always have to fast but its been so long since my last test that I figured I would have too again this time.


Hepatitis A antibody Total
Hepatitis B cOre Antibody Total.
Hepatitis B Surface antibody.
Hepatitis B Surface Antigen
Chlamydia Trachomatis NAAT
Neisseria Gonorrhea NAAT
Quanititative Tb Gold
Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy
Complete Blood Count with Diff
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile
HIV-1 RNA PCS
Immunodeficiency Panel
RPR
Testosterone Free

I hate fasting and I am a real ass when I have to fast and would like to avoid it if at all possible.

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« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 05:37:04 PM by WillyWump »
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2013, 05:28:05 PM »
I have my blood draw tomorrow and normally the nurse will handwrite write "Fast for 24 hours" on the  sheet, but none of the sheets have the notation..I dont always have to fast but its been so long since my last test that I figured I would have too again this time.

Also, what test is it that you have to fast for?

Hepatitis A antibody Total
Hepatitis B cOre Antibody Total.
Hepatitis B Surface antibody.
Hepatitis B Surface Antigen
Chlamydia Trachomatis NAAT
Neisseria Gonorrhea NAAT
Quanititative Tb Gold
Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy
Complete Blood Count with Diff
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile
HIV-1 RNA PCS
Immunodeficiency Panel
RPR
Testosterone Free

I hate fasting and I am a real ass when I have to fast and would like to avoid it if at all possible.

-W

From what I know from taking these tests:

Hepatitis A antibody Total                            Don't have to fast
Hepatitis B cOre Antibody Total.                   Don't have to fast
Hepatitis B Surface antibody.                       Don't have to fast
Hepatitis B Surface Antigen                          Don't have to fast
Chlamydia Trachomatis NAAT                       Don't have to fast
Neisseria Gonorrhea NAAT                           Don't have to fast
Quanititative Tb Gold                                   Don't have to fast
Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy                                  Not sure
Complete Blood Count with Diff                   Fast
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile                 Fast
HIV-1 RNA PCS                                             Don't have to fast
Immunodeficiency Panel                              Don't have to fast
RPR                                                              Don't have to fast
Testosterone Free                                       Not sure

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Date    CD4    %   VL     Date  CD4  %   VL
10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

Offline WillyWump

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2013, 05:36:21 PM »
From what I know from taking these tests:


Complete Blood Count with Diff                   Fast
Comprehensive Metabolic Profile                 Fast


Dammit. I guess I better start eating, I have till midnight to get good and stuffed.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2013, 05:39:02 PM »
I have to have some food with my morning meds so I never fast.

ps: ARE YOU HAVING A LIPID PANEL DONE? ::)
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2013, 05:43:40 PM »
I have to have some food with my morning meds so I never fast.

ps: ARE YOU HAVING A LIPID PANEL DONE? ::)

I have no clue, You tell me.. the tests are up there ^

If I have to fast, I will fast totally. I would hate to get a bad lipid reading because of some snack and then get raked over the coals for 3 months by all you Nancy's.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2013, 05:53:11 PM »
I'm making cheeseburgers tonight. I'll be thinking of you.
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 06:19:54 PM »
I'm making cheeseburgers tonight. I'll be thinking of you.

Im having fried pork chops, Fresh mashed potatoes and boiled Okra.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2013, 06:21:28 PM »

Doesn't look like they are checking your cholesterol.

Good luck
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 06:24:59 PM by buginme2 »

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2013, 06:45:18 PM »
I have my blood draw tomorrow and normally the nurse will handwrite write "Fast for 24 hours" on the  sheet

24 hours?  That's brutal.  I've always been told to "fast" after 9 p.m. and have the blood work done some time before 11 a.m. the next day.

Then again, they know your history and your nasty habits.  They probably figured that it takes a full day for all that lard running through your veins and liver to properly settle.

Muchos besos,

La Moon,
who is about to eat some fabulous Vietnamese food.  Cry your heart out, Guillermina.

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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2013, 06:46:55 PM »
24 hours?  That's brutal.  I've always been told to "fast" after 9 p.m. and have the blood work done some time before 11 a.m. the next day.



Oh thats my bad, I meant 12 hours.
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6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2013, 06:49:18 PM »
The only test that requires fasting (from those you listed) is the comprehensive metabolic profile.  This test also includes a blood glucose test.  This panel checks all of you electrolytes and liver and kidney functions.

I've never seen a test sheet that didn't have it notated if it required fasting. 

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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2013, 07:02:50 PM »
.

I've never seen a test sheet that didn't have it notated if it required fasting. 


My Special Instructions line is always blank...as I stated above it's always handwritten on there. Which clearly is not the best way to do it.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2013, 07:04:36 PM »
Anyways, put down your wimpy burgers 12 hours before testing.   Wolfie has spoken.
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Offline WillyWump

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2013, 07:07:04 PM »
Anyways, put down your wimpy burgers 12 hours before testing.   Wolfie has spoken.

ghurl, please review the thread before you post...I am having Pork Chops, and lots of them.

-W
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2013, 07:11:10 PM »
I made a huge platter of fried pork chops yesterday for my friends and we are having the leftovers tonight . I haven't had them in a while and they were really good if I don't say so myself .

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2013, 07:11:44 PM »
I am having Pork Chops, and lots of them.


Dare we ask how many and should we assume that they have gloppy gravy on them?
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2013, 07:15:46 PM »
Complacency is the enemy.  ;)  Challenge yourself daily for maximum  return on investment.

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2013, 07:16:41 PM »
Dare we ask how many and should we assume that they have gloppy gravy on them?

I'm not sure what "gloppy gravy" is. But yes, they will be smothered in an amazing homemade cream gravy
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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2013, 07:17:47 PM »
I'm not sure what "gloppy gravy" is. But yes, they will be smothered in homemade cream gravy

I have pork chops in the fridge so I'll make those instead of cheeseburgers. Mine will be simply grilled with some garlic and served with saffron risotto. GRAVY IS NOT HEALTHY.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2013, 07:18:31 PM »
I really do worry about y'all's diets.  As senior citizens, you really should eat better.  I myself fixed a huge salad at work today that I'll be able to get several meals out of it. 

Shouldn't this thread now be merged with the other "I don't eat healthy" thread?
« Last Edit: January 27, 2013, 07:20:20 PM by wolfter »
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2013, 07:19:20 PM »
Im having fried pork chops, Fresh mashed potatoes and boiled Okra.

When you say "fried pork chop".  Are you frying the pork chop in a fryer? Like fried chicken?

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #21 on: January 27, 2013, 07:21:39 PM »
Hey Will:
For the quan TB gold - you may want to check w/ lab ---- when I have had this done at quest, they only do it certain times of the day because it has to be picked up from the lab and processed stat in order to be accurate... Wouldn't want you to go there and only be able to get some of the labs done and have to go back for that one...
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10/08  636    35  510   9/09 473  38 2900  12/4/09 Atripla
12/09  540    30    60   
12/10  740    41  <48   
8/11    667    36  <20  
03/12  1,041  42  <20
05/12  1,241  47  <20
08/12   780    37  <20
11/12   549    35  <20
02/12  1,102  42  <20
11/12   549    35  <20

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #22 on: January 27, 2013, 07:22:43 PM »
When you say "fried pork chop".  Are you frying the pork chop in a fryer? Like fried chicken?

It's probably dredged in flour then "fried" in some oil in a cast iron skillet. Then you make a gravy out of the cooked bits on the bottom of the skillet.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2013, 07:23:04 PM »
When you say "fried pork chop".  Are you frying the pork chop in a fryer? Like fried chicken?

No silly.  In a skillet you Just lay down enough oil to cover about half way up your chop and fry away.  Then you use the leftover grease to make your Gravy by adding flower and milk and whisking the hell out of it. Amirite Jeff!

Jeebus you people kill me sometimes.
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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #24 on: January 27, 2013, 07:23:54 PM »
Hey Will:
For the quan TB gold - you may want to check w/ lab ---- when I have had this done at quest, they only do it certain times of the day because it has to be picked up from the lab and processed stat in order to be accurate... Wouldn't want you to go there and only be able to get some of the labs done and have to go back for that one...

Ah, thats why it says Mon-Weds 8am to noon only (handwritten of course)
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6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #25 on: January 27, 2013, 07:40:30 PM »
sorry to throw you guys for :-[ a loop there. :)
anyway...
yes, you should fast tonight after pouring cement in your veins. :)
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2013, 07:43:05 PM »
and boiled Okra.

yuck, might as well blow your nose and eat it

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2013, 07:44:52 PM »
yuck, might as well blow your nose and eat it

Dont like swallowing gooey stuff huh? Sux for your hubby.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2013, 07:47:19 PM »
Quote
boiled Okra.
nasty :o  slimy okra is disgusting. (although a spear or two simmered in a pot of beans for flavoring is ok - just don't eat it) the only way to properly cook okra is to coat in flour and fry. although pickled okra is interesting once in a full blue moon.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2013, 07:50:36 PM »
nasty :o  slimy okra is disgusting. (although a spear or two simmered in a pot of beans for flavoring is ok - just don't eat it) the only way to properly cook okra is to coat in flour and fry. although pickled okra is interesting once in a full blue moon.

Come on man! You call yourself a true Southerner? Yes, Fried Okra is the SHIT, but Boiled okra with sliced toms and onion in it is tops too! and I LOVE pickled Okra also.

I must say Okra is one of my favorite foods.
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Last Labs-
6/3/14 CD4- 736, UD 34%
6/25/13 CD4- 1036, UD,
2/4/13, CD4 - 489, UD, 28%

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #30 on: January 27, 2013, 07:52:42 PM »
Dont like swallowing gooey stuff huh? Sux for your hubby.
mean but very funny. :)
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« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2013, 07:54:48 PM »
saw fresh okra once in the past 10 years in our grocery stores.
it's a foreign object here. :)
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2013, 08:01:11 PM »
Dessert will be an ice cream float made with Boylan's Root Beer.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2013, 08:24:54 PM »
Lookie at what I found...
 
I only eat gravy on my biscuits and Chicken fried steak. So Im safe.

I'm not sure what "gloppy gravy" is. But yes, they will be smothered in an amazing homemade cream gravy

Appears Miss P was correct when she called you a liar!

Sad!

And I never fast before my labs.

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2013, 08:26:14 PM »
i like your new pic willy.  for someone who eats as bad as everyone says you eat, you have nice physique (sp?)  lol
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2013, 08:35:58 PM »
Lookie at what I found...
 
Appears Miss P was correct when she called you a liar!

Sad!

And I never fast before my labs.

Good catch, my dear. And yes, she lies all of the time about absolutely everything (her age for example).
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2013, 08:38:57 PM »
i like your new pic willy.  for someone who eats as bad as everyone says you eat, you have nice physique (sp?)  lol

Honey chile, please.  She's been using the same set of pictars from circa 1998 here and on her grndr profiles. 

By the way, Guillermina... I echo what Doxie and Mike said before: slimy okra = vomititious.  Not only you eat whipped shit from a drive-thru on a regular basis, whenever you "cook" you come up with nasteh stuff.

To quote you: "sux for your hubby" (or whatever twink you may be courting these days)  :P
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2013, 08:41:17 PM »
Lookie at what I found...
 
Appears Miss P was correct when she called you a liar!

Sad!

And I never fast before my labs.


Word.  And have you noticed how all of a sudden this is evolving into "[Mal]Nutrition, Wumpette Style -- Part Deux"?
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2013, 09:34:48 PM »
Willy,

When in doubt - FAST!

However, Wolfie got it right, only the metabolic panel requires a fast.  CBC, technically, does not require it, but if you pour too much lard down just before, your plasma will look like milk and the lab instrumentation will not be able to count your cells.  I know, more info than you can handle, so..........

Stop eating NOW!!!

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2013, 09:44:32 PM »
I've never been told to fast for the CBC.  I was going to next time, because my glucose has been like 112, and I wanted to see what it is when fasting.  Although, as I understand it, 112 would be expected after a meal, but it always flags as high. 

I have never been tested for chlamydia, but I guess that's one you'd probably know you had?  And, what's an immunodeficiency panel?  I've never heard of that.  CD4 and all that? 

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2013, 10:13:05 PM »
I've never been told to fast for the CBC.  I was going to next time, because my glucose has been like 112, and I wanted to see what it is when fasting.  Although, as I understand it, 112 would be expected after a meal, but it always flags as high. 

I have never been tested for chlamydia, but I guess that's one you'd probably know you had?  And, what's an immunodeficiency panel?  I've never heard of that.  CD4 and all that?

You do know that a CBC and a glucose test are not the same, right?
You SHOULD fast for a glucose, unless it is taken as a post-prandial test.

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2013, 10:27:31 PM »
You do know that a CBC and a glucose test are not the same, right?
You SHOULD fast for a glucose, unless it is taken as a post-prandial test.

M

Yeah, but isn't the glucose usually a part of the CBC?  I know it always lists glucose on the CBC report.  Perhaps they just list it under the CBC.  I've never had a glucose specific test, where I was told to fast.  The only time I've been told to fast was for the lipid screens. 


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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2013, 10:59:20 PM »
, you have nice physique (sp?) 


Thank You Mikey. You appear to be the only sane person in this thread other than me. :-*

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2013, 11:01:35 PM »
From my experience

Testosterone  = no need to fast

Vitamin D 25 Hydroxy = no need to fast

Comprehensive Metabolic Profile = yes you need to fast because its included a fasted glucose test. CMP= Basic metabolic panel(BMP)+liver test

CBC = i never fast with this nor anyone tell me to, CBC don't test glucose level
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2013, 11:03:25 PM »
Yeah, but isn't the glucose usually a part of the CBC?  I know it always lists glucose on the CBC report.  Perhaps they just list it under the CBC.  I've never had a glucose specific test, where I was told to fast.  The only time I've been told to fast was for the lipid screens.

Agreed I fast for Lipid profile and Glucose.

CBC don't include a Glucose test
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« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2013, 11:09:57 PM »
Thank You Mikey. You appear to be the only sane person in this thread other than me. :-*

-Will

For the longest time, and after hearing all the jokes about your eating habits, I pictured you as chunky.  I think there are also jokes bout lack of physical activity.  I pictured you eating that country fried steak and then lying on the couch to watch one of the Housewives series followed by a rerun of Walker Texas Ranger, with a tub of ice cream.   ;)

So, how do you stay in shape?  Do you exercise, or are physically active at work or home?  Good genes?  Or, are all the jokes very, very exaggerated? 

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2013, 11:46:09 PM »

So, how do you stay in shape?  Do you exercise, or are physically active at work or home?  Good genes?  Or, are all the jokes very, very exaggerated? 

Honey, Guilhermina's the one here who passes out when he jogs and/or has to take a stress test at the cardiologist. Obviously he wears Manx for his photo-shoots.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2013, 01:08:21 AM »
My new doctor tells me to always fast for my blood tests, so did my other doctor that used to send me to Quest.  When I do fast it's usually for at least 8 hours. I wake up late so I schedule my appointment so I can get up and get ready and head straight for the appointment.
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« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2013, 01:13:02 AM »
Honey, Guilhermina's the one here who passes out when he jogs and/or has to take a stress test at the cardiologist. Obviously he wears Manx for his photo-shoots.

I am placing an order as we speak.  That's right.  I remember the passing out thing. 

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« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2013, 01:13:28 AM »
My new doctor tells me to always fast for my blood tests, so did my other doctor that used to send me to Quest.  When I do fast it's usually for at least 8 hours. I wake up late so I schedule my appointment so I can get up and get ready and head straight for the appointment.

I think I have been told a handful of times in the last 20 years to fast. I usually try to get my bloodwork done at the same time of day, but that's something I have done entirely on my own.

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2013, 05:22:43 AM »

I have never been tested for chlamydia, but I guess that's one you'd probably know you had? 


Not necessarily. Up to 80% of people never notice any obvious symptoms. This is one of the reasons why sexually active people should have a full sexual health check up at least once a year.

Some others often don't have noticeable symptoms - notably syphilis. Primary syphilis chancres (sores) are painless, so if you get one where you can't see it, you won't know it's there. Gonorrhea can be without noticeable symptoms as well.




So far I've only been asked to fast before blood tests once - to get a base-line lipid profile before I started meds. It was so good they're not going to bother again until this coming summer when I've been on meds for a year.
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2013, 07:35:44 AM »
Dont like swallowing gooey stuff huh? Sux for your hubby.

Oh I just saw this. Your hubby must be so happy married to a goo-guzzler. Oh wait a minute, you don't have a husband. Unless you count your imaginary marriage to the Biebs. Was that tenuous enough for ya? :P Remember no goo after midnight.

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2013, 07:47:11 AM »
Yeah, but isn't the glucose usually a part of the CBC?  I know it always lists glucose on the CBC report.  Perhaps they just list it under the CBC.  I've never had a glucose specific test, where I was told to fast.  The only time I've been told to fast was for the lipid screens.

No -- Glucose is a chemistry test, CBC (Complete Blood Count) is a Hematology test.  CBC is looking at blood cells, glucose is measured in your serum (the liquid portion of your blood AFTER clotting out all cells).

In actuality, there is some sense in, at least a small fast, for many/most tests.  Due to the fact that a good number of tests are actually determined using light, having a high fat meal shortly before a blood draw really could leave fat-filled blood, making it difficult to always get accurate readings.  Of course, I've been away from clinical labs for a long, long time now and perhaps they have found a way to minimize this affect, but I doubt it.

Fasting is a must for some tests, because they are actually testing for things that would be elevated after eating/drinking (like lipids or glucose).

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2013, 10:06:09 AM »
Glucose falls under "Comprehensive Metabolic Profile"
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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2013, 10:32:11 AM »
Now you people have me all confused. I will ask when I get to the lab in a bit.

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2013, 10:34:47 AM »
For the longest time, and after hearing all the jokes about your eating habits, I pictured you as chunky.  I think there are also jokes bout lack of physical activity. 

So, how do you stay in shape?  Do you exercise, or are physically active at work or home?  Good genes?  Or, are all the jokes very, very exaggerated?

I have never weighed more than about 178ish, I'm 5'11. I walk or jog at least 3 miles every few days. I work out a couple times a week.

See, if y'all would turn down the constant background White Noise that is commonly referred to as MissP and Rev Moon some of these true facts would come out.

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« Reply #56 on: January 28, 2013, 10:46:21 AM »
Now you people have me all confused. I will ask when I get to the lab in a bit.

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ps- Im drinking shitty black coffee right now.

Bad news girl, coffee is verboten if you're fasting before your labs.

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #57 on: January 28, 2013, 11:55:45 AM »

ps- Im drinking shitty black coffee right now.


If you're drinking shitty black coffee, then you broke your fast - at least according to what I've been told in the past.

Every time I've had to do fasting bloods I was told anything other than water - black, sugarless tea and coffee included - counted as a fast-breaker.

(I've done a few fasting-bloods years ago pre-hiv, not just the time pre-meds that I mentioned earlier.)

Maybe they were being extra-cautious, I donno. Calling Mr Bocker?
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« Reply #58 on: January 28, 2013, 12:03:22 PM »
\Every time I've had to do fasting bloods I was told anything other than water - black, sugarless tea and coffee included - counted as a fast-breaker.
I have my lab work done in the mornings, as I don't eat breakfast, so this solves the whole fasting issue. However I could never start a day without some Coke in my system. So I have always broken my fast - but always by about the same amount and with the same beverage - so at least my labs should be consistent if not 100% accurate. LOL ;)
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« Reply #59 on: January 28, 2013, 12:31:35 PM »
If you're drinking shitty black coffee, then you broke your fast - at least according to what I've been told in the past.

Every time I've had to do fasting bloods I was told anything other than water - black, sugarless tea and coffee included - counted as a fast-breaker.

(I've done a few fasting-bloods years ago pre-hiv, not just the time pre-meds that I mentioned earlier.)

Maybe they were being extra-cautious, I donno. Calling Mr Bocker?

I could be wrong but the last time I had fasting bloods they made me reschedule because I told them I had black coffee.

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« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2013, 12:42:32 PM »
The only -- ONLY -- time in twenty years I've been required to do a strict fasting is for surgery (due to anesthesia) or for a cardiologist (myocardial perfusion scanning). Like I said, repeatedly, for an HIV-related blood draw they all know I take food with my twice-daily dosing. They probably prefer that I eat dry toast as opposed to raiding the McD's drive trough a la Feast-de-Guilhermina, but that's not particularly an issue for me. If I had lipid panel undesirable results they would probably get more strict with a pre-test fast, but alas I don't have that.

Seriously, some of you people go overboard with this stuff.
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« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2013, 12:45:55 PM »

Seriously, some of you people go overboard with this stuff.


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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #62 on: January 28, 2013, 12:46:29 PM »
The only -- ONLY -- time in twenty years I've been required to do a strict fasting is for surgery (due to anesthesia)

That's what they say, but I think it's so you don't shit on the operating table.  ;D
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« Reply #63 on: January 28, 2013, 12:48:47 PM »
That's what they say, but I think it's so you don't shit on the operating table.  ;D

It's so the anesthesia doesn't make you puke and choke and clog up your ventilation tubes and be a general pain-in-the-ass for the anesthesiologist. Nothing to do with shitting at all.
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« Reply #64 on: January 28, 2013, 12:58:51 PM »
The only -- ONLY -- time in twenty years I've been required to do a strict fasting is for surgery (due to anesthesia) or for a cardiologist (myocardial perfusion scanning). Like I said, repeatedly, for an HIV-related blood draw they all know I take food with my twice-daily dosing. They probably prefer that I eat dry toast as opposed to raiding the McD's drive trough a la Feast-de-Guilhermina, but that's not particularly an issue for me. If I had lipid panel undesirable results they would probably get more strict with a pre-test fast, but alas I don't have that.

Seriously, some of you people go overboard with this stuff.

Like I said the only blood draw I've had which required fasting (can't remember what they were testing for) they asked me if I had eaten or drank anything. When I told them i had a cup of coffee they made me reschedule. No biggie. I could care less if you eat a whole suckling pig before your labs. I'm sure they're just trying to get you out of their office as quickly as possible.

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Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
« Reply #65 on: January 28, 2013, 01:23:31 PM »
Personally, I think it easier to just fast before my blood draws, especially since I get them done first thing in the morning.  And that's the direction my physician has always given me.  I'm sure Wumpy can forego his Eggo waffle, or tacquito from Whattaburger, for just one morning.   Oh, and even black coffee does break the fast, at least that's what I've heard several times when I've gone to the lab and the phlebotomist scolded some of the other patients.

What I'm really curious about is:

  • Why no lipid panel?   :(   Seriously? 
  • What's the real reason for the extensive screening for STDs.   ;)

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« Reply #66 on: January 28, 2013, 01:58:55 PM »


    • What's the real reason for the extensive screening for STDs.   ;)

    Because apparently my doc does not believe me when I tell her I am not a cum-dumpster tramp. She always slips some STD test in there every time.

    As fart as the fasting, Pretty much all of you queens are wrong according to my Lab gal. None of the tests I had requires fasting.Only the Lipid panel requires a fast (which was not ordered this time). Also, even on Lipid panels she said a "little" black coffee is ok. like half a cup.

    Had a horrible experience today. After being told I didnt have to fast a little boy sits down next to me and starts unwrapping a delish breakfast Taco. I wanted to punch him in his precious face and take the taco, but unfortunately assaulting a minor is still frowned upon. Then once in back, halfway through the draw the nurse is jacking around and drops one of the viles, and at the same time bends down and RIPS the butterfly needle out of my vein, causing blood to splash on my new Baskit Tshirt. then she played jab and poke on the other arm to try to finish out the draw.

    BUT, in the end y'all will be pleased to know I didn't stop at Lulu's for their Chicken Fried steak, I came straight home and just finished a banana and bowl of oatmeal.

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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #67 on: January 28, 2013, 02:06:51 PM »
    Pretty much all of you queens are wrong according to my Lab gal. None of the tests I had requires fasting.Only the Lipid panel requires a fast (which was not ordered this time). Also, even on Lipid panels she said a "little" black coffee is ok. like half a cup.

    Once again, Miss P was correct...  ::)


    She always slips some STD test in there every time.

    Did she look at your blooming sphincter cauliflowers?

    ps: what exactly did you have for your post-not-needed-fast meal? or did you skip food and go to the adult bookstore to soak up some hot cum?
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    « Reply #68 on: January 28, 2013, 02:34:19 PM »
    I stand by my original answer.  How can you possibly get an accurate reading on your electroylite levels without fasting?  Wouldn't a supersized order of McD's fries throw the numbers off?  Or eating several bananas for breakfast affecting your potassium levels? 

    But go ahead and believe some labtech over us.   ;)

    OH, and I never commented on the coffee thingy.  I've always cheated in that regards as Wolfie doesn't even move without a morning pot or 2. 
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    « Reply #69 on: January 28, 2013, 02:53:35 PM »
    How am I supposed to adhere to my antiviral regimen if I am required to fast? I guess my doctor is making the hard choices for me.
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    « Reply #70 on: January 28, 2013, 03:10:10 PM »
    She always slips some STD test in there every time.
    because just like at my clinic, your doctor is getting $easy dollars$ for doing those unnecessary tests ;)
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    « Reply #71 on: January 28, 2013, 05:20:54 PM »

    But go ahead and believe some labtech over us.   ;)


    Ok. I will.

    Or eating several bananas for breakfast affecting your potassium levels? 


    LMAO. Several bananas for breakfast? Is that what you hillbillies do? The last thing I knew that ate several banans for breakfast was Bongo the Ape.


    because just like at my clinic, your doctor is getting $easy dollars$ for doing those unnecessary tests ;)

    I have to pay for my tests, at least a portion of them. So this is a good point. Im going to have to speak to her about this. No telling how much money Ive been wasting.
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    « Reply #72 on: January 28, 2013, 06:22:17 PM »
    I don't care what your lab person told you  -- glucose ranges are normally based on fasting samples.  Of course, timing is everything -- eating an hour before might be a bigger deal for some than eating 3 hours before.  What you eat may have a bigger or smaller impact -- hence, always best to fast, so that you have the "same" sort of environment when drawn.

    And.........  at least in every lab I ever worked in, drinking black coffee (NO SWEETENING of any kind) does not break a fast.  It is, essentially, flavored water -- and doesn't contain anything that is being tested nor should it cause any other interference, like a high fat meal could.  Of course black coffee is just that -- no cream/milk (real or powdered) and no sugar or sugar substitute.

    Honestly ladies -- is it all that hard to go have your blood drawn BEFORE you eat breakfast?  Hell -- even at my fattest, I could hold off on breakfast until 8:00 or 9:00.   ::)

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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #73 on: January 28, 2013, 06:30:03 PM »

    Honestly ladies -- is it all that hard to go have your blood drawn BEFORE you eat breakfast?  Hell -- even at my fattest, I could hold off on breakfast until 8:00 or 9:00.   ::)


    My doctor seems satisfied doing it the way we're doing it. In fact, all four doctors I've had since 1993 have done it this way. Odd, isn't it?

    Hey, I'm going to see my doctor tomorrow. Should I let him know that Anonymous-Cocksucker-on-the-Internet #4138 said that he knows better than Dr. UMDNJ/Sorbonne degree and Univ. of PA faculty member?
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    « Reply #74 on: January 28, 2013, 06:55:59 PM »
    I think we should revisit this often ...

    i like your  pic willy. you have nice physique

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    « Reply #75 on: January 28, 2013, 07:03:05 PM »
    Spanx makes a great male girdle does't it? Now show us a pictar with your shirt off. We both know you won't do it.
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    « Reply #76 on: January 28, 2013, 07:13:06 PM »
    Spanx makes a great male girdle does't it? Now show us a pictar with your shirt off. We both know you won't do it.

    So you can pleasure yourself and be all peverted with my rippling chest picv. NEVAH!
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    « Reply #77 on: January 28, 2013, 07:15:09 PM »
    So you can pleasure yourself and be all peverted with my rippling chest picv. NEVAH!

    I'm sure your Grandpappy shirtless torso would instantaneously cause my plump testicles to shrivel up and fall on the floor lifeless.
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    « Reply #78 on: January 28, 2013, 08:32:21 PM »
    I have checked several times - with both lab techs and my doc - drinking coffee - as long as it is black - does not break a fast (get it - breakfast - lol)....

    Also received following clarification today from doc (I emailed her) - CBC's - don't require a fast.

    Metabolic panel, glucose definitely require a fast - as do lipids.

    And STDs only require a fast from guzzling (through any orrifice - sp?) slimy, white liquids (well, it probably wouldn't effect them if done in the stall of the quest restroom immediately prior to the labs)  ::)

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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #79 on: January 28, 2013, 09:28:05 PM »
      As fart as the fasting,
    You can fart, particularly at your age, as for the fasting, no one has offered up a link verifying which way is correct.

      Had a horrible experience today. After being told I didnt have to fast a little boy sits down next to me and starts unwrapping a delish breakfast Taco. I wanted to punch him in his precious face and take the taco,
    First of all you wouldn't have the farting issue if you didn't eat shit like that. Second, to take your aggressive thoughts out on a poor little boy with probably endearing farts is just disgusting.

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    « Reply #80 on: January 28, 2013, 09:48:36 PM »
    You can fart, particularly at your age,
    .

    LMAO, I totally didnt catch that. Oppsie my bad

    Ps- LOVE your avatar. Is that a recent pic?
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    « Reply #81 on: January 29, 2013, 02:23:51 PM »

    LMAO. Several bananas for breakfast? Is that what you hillbillies do? The last thing I knew that ate several banans for breakfast was Bongo the Ape.


    You're seriously going to laugh at my regular meals? ;D  A reminder from the other thread about my delicious and nutricious meals.



    I know it's not smothered with gravy, but still quite satisfying.
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    « Reply #82 on: January 29, 2013, 05:42:13 PM »
    You're seriously going to laugh at my regular meals? ;D  A reminder from the other thread about my delicious and nutricious meals.



    I know it's not smothered with gravy, but still quite satisfying.

    It actually looks quite good. Especially the toms. Yum.

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    « Reply #83 on: January 29, 2013, 05:53:53 PM »
    So I got my labs back today -- my glucose reading is right in the middle of normal range. I wonder what it would be if I'd fasted 8)
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    « Reply #84 on: January 29, 2013, 06:05:02 PM »
    So I got my labs back today -- my glucose reading is right in the middle of normal range. I wonder what it would be if I'd fasted 8)

    and Lipids?
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    « Reply #85 on: January 29, 2013, 06:09:01 PM »
    and Lipids?

    They were done last time. He doesn't do them every time -- BECAUSE MINE ARE FINE. Mebbe you should stop with the psychological projection.
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    « Reply #86 on: January 29, 2013, 06:13:33 PM »
    My doctor seems satisfied doing it the way we're doing it. In fact, all four doctors I've had since 1993 have done it this way. Odd, isn't it?

    Hey, I'm going to see my doctor tomorrow. Should I let him know that Anonymous-Cocksucker-on-the-Internet #4138 said that he knows better than Dr. UMDNJ/Sorbonne degree and Univ. of PA faculty member?

    Yes, please do!  I often had to educate some docs on lab procedures.
    Of course, if you never fast, then the comparison is likely OK -- unless sometimes you eat an hour prior, or 2 hours prior.  There IS a reason that there exists post-prandial glucose testing vs. fasting glucose testing.

    Of course -- I would never advocate NOT following your doctor's recommendations -- I am only giving you the facts as I know them and as I learned them while studying clinical laboratory science.

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    « Reply #87 on: January 29, 2013, 06:15:52 PM »
    So I got my labs back today -- my glucose reading is right in the middle of normal range. I wonder what it would be if I'd fasted 8)

    When and what did you last eat?  Glucose should spike and return to normal within a 1-2 hour window of eating.

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    « Reply #88 on: January 29, 2013, 06:26:05 PM »
    It actually looks quite good. Especially the toms. Yum.

    Girl are you striving to be like Kris Kardashian?  You already have one thread about food.  It is not all about you on these forums.

    PS: Did you get your lipids checked before you fainted?
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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #89 on: January 29, 2013, 06:31:12 PM »

    PS: Did you get your lipids checked before you fainted?

    You know...hmmm. I'm starting to think NONE of you people can read. Like at all.

    I didnt faint. During the blood draw the tech ripped the butterfly out of my vein. I was conscious the whole time, trust me on that.
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    « Reply #90 on: January 29, 2013, 06:49:03 PM »
    When and what did you last eat?  Glucose should spike and return to normal within a 1-2 hour window of eating.

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    Probably a very lightly buttered toasted bagel 3-4 hours before my blood draw. Or it could have been a bowl of granola with no fat milk. And only black coffee, no sugar.

    Anyway, my larger point is that obviously IF my doctor was routinely seeing something worrying over a couple of tests, and IF it was something he thought warranted a fasting, THEN he would have me come back in and do it which ever way was warranted.
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    « Reply #91 on: January 29, 2013, 09:58:56 PM »
    Probably a very lightly buttered toasted bagel 3-4 hours before my blood draw. Or it could have been a bowl of granola with no fat milk. And only black coffee, no sugar.

    Anyway, my larger point is that obviously IF my doctor was routinely seeing something worrying over a couple of tests, and IF it was something he thought warranted a fasting, THEN he would have me come back in and do it which ever way was warranted.

    Well -- you are correct.  If your glucose was elevated, you would need to repeat it fasting -- although I think your larger point really is to get the last word AND prove you are right.  The Wump asked a question -- I answered it based on my professional knowledge -- what YOU do, wasn't important to me in this context.

    I will continue to stand by my advice that glucose testing should be done fasting, unless specifically directed otherwise by your doctor.  That isn't based on my individual experience (i.e. anecdote) -- it's based on education (i.e. science).  Perhaps it doesn't matter in many instances, but having to repeat a test because someone had to eat an hour or so before a blood draw is wasteful -- of medical resources, time and money.

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    « Reply #92 on: January 29, 2013, 10:09:09 PM »
    although I think your larger point really is to get the last word AND prove you are right. 

    Seriously? You are saying that?

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    « Reply #93 on: January 30, 2013, 10:51:10 AM »
    "I have never been tested for chlamydia, but I guess that's one you'd probably know you had?"

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    « Reply #94 on: January 30, 2013, 11:00:47 AM »
    It actually looks quite good. Especially the toms. Yum.

    I base a lot of my diet on my lab results.  I've ALWAYS had issues with my electrolyte levels.  I think it was included in the lipid results I posted in another thread.  My potassium levels have consistently been extremely low and so have my sodium levels.  My doctor said I'm the only person he has ever recommended adding salt to my diet.  The problem is, I can't stand the taste.  And I don't eat much fast food or processed food.

    Aha, found it.

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    « Reply #95 on: January 30, 2013, 12:53:33 PM »
    My doctor said I'm the only person he has ever recommended adding salt to my diet. 

    I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy

    It really is a shame that you people cant eat like this and look like this   ::)
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    « Reply #96 on: January 30, 2013, 12:56:41 PM »

    It really is a shame that you people cant eat like this and look like this   ::)

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    « Reply #97 on: January 30, 2013, 12:57:59 PM »

    It really is a shame that you people cant look like this   ::)

    Oh please.  How old is that picture?  You had hair then  ::)
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    « Reply #98 on: January 30, 2013, 01:01:28 PM »
    I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy

    It really is a shame that you people cant eat like this and look like this   ::)

    I don't enjoy eating like that and look much better anyways. ;D
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    « Reply #99 on: January 30, 2013, 01:02:44 PM »
    Hey there Milburn! How's the roid rage today?

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    « Reply #100 on: January 30, 2013, 01:04:36 PM »
    What did yall say!!! I cant hear yall I'm in the middle of a 5 mile run!
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    « Reply #101 on: January 30, 2013, 01:06:13 PM »
    What did yall say!!! I cant hear yall I'm in the middle of a 5 mile run!

    Why, did you see a cute twink? ;)
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    « Reply #102 on: January 30, 2013, 03:13:41 PM »
    It really is a shame that you people cant eat like this and look like this   ::)


    Oooooh Will, you used to be are soooo hoooot!!!!  Look what you've done to me...

    Chile, please.  As a certain someone (that I know you would not be able to name in this lifetime) would say, "I wouldn't suck your lousy dick if I was suffocating and there was oxygen in your balls!"
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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #103 on: January 30, 2013, 06:01:31 PM »
    Hey there Milburn! How's the roid rage today?
    Oh please.  How old is that picture?  You had hair then  ::)
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    All the Nerds hatin' on the Jocks ::)
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    « Reply #104 on: January 30, 2013, 06:03:56 PM »
    All the Nerds hatin' on the Jocks ::)

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    « Reply #105 on: January 30, 2013, 06:40:13 PM »
    There goes your Miss Congeniality sash.
    :)
    (she has been a bit testy of late.) ;D
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    « Reply #106 on: January 30, 2013, 06:46:53 PM »
    Willy dosent need to lift weights , he gets enough exercise shouldering all the abuse he gets around here . I did like that pic of his twin brother that used to exercise though .

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    « Reply #107 on: January 30, 2013, 06:47:40 PM »
    There goes your Miss Congeniality sash.

    I'll let MissP have it  :P
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    « Reply #108 on: January 30, 2013, 09:44:53 PM »

    Chile, please.  As a certain someone (that I know you would not be able to name in this lifetime) would say, "I wouldn't suck your lousy dick if I was suffocating and there was oxygen in your balls!"

    ^This.  Say it with me now: Mable, Mable. Set the table. And don't forget the RED HOT PEPPERS!
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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #109 on: January 30, 2013, 09:58:22 PM »
    I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy
    and look like this   ::)
    I will have to dig for another lie about not using Salt, probably won't have to dig to deep. As for the photo, wow! Where's is your chest?

    Ann has it, right?  :-X

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    « Reply #110 on: January 30, 2013, 10:02:05 PM »
    I will have to dig for another lie about not using Salt, probably won't have to dig to deep. As for the photo, wow! Where's is your chest?

    Ann has it, right?  :-X

    He doesn't need to add salt to things because it's already loaded with salt when he pulls out the drive through or takes something out of a frozen box.
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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #111 on: January 30, 2013, 11:18:35 PM »



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    ę Reply #120 on: October 30, 2010, 11:04:00 PM Ľ

    Here's another one your family will love!

    Elephant Stew

    1 Elephant
    2 rabbits (optional)
    2 large onions
    BRown Gravy
    1 cup each of salt and pepper
    1 clove of garlic


    So Willy, did you commit a fraud when you submitted this recipe for our cookbook?  One cup of salt...oh my
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    « Reply #112 on: January 30, 2013, 11:23:37 PM »
    My, my, my... Wolfterina, you are becoming the new Philicia  :)

    Next time I need to dig up some dirt on one of these queens I know who I'll be contacting. 
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    « Reply #113 on: January 30, 2013, 11:27:45 PM »
    My, my, my... Wolfterina, you are becoming the new Philicia  :)

    Next time I need to dig up some dirt on one of these queens I know who I'll be contacting.

    I remember because I tried the recipe although I eliminated the elephant, rabbit, salt and switched water for the gravy.  :)

    Since MissP is only slightly older than me, I had to learn all her tricks.  How else will I dethrone her?
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    « Reply #114 on: January 30, 2013, 11:40:09 PM »

    Since MissP is only slightly older than me, I had to learn all her tricks.  How else will I dethrone her?

    I'm 47, you're 47. The only trick you need to learn is arithmetic.
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    « Reply #115 on: January 30, 2013, 11:45:51 PM »
    I'm 47, you're 47. The only trick you need to learn is arithmetic.

    Since you turn 48 shortly and I don't until later this summer;  I WIN!  My arithmetic indicates that I'm just slightly younger than you.    Come up with a different dispute. ;)
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    « Reply #116 on: January 31, 2013, 12:01:18 AM »
    Come up with a different dispute. ;)

    Did you just see Jax Taylor on Watch What Happens Live! totally shirtless and drenched in five different cocktails? I was kinda living.
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    « Reply #117 on: January 31, 2013, 12:15:30 AM »
    Did you just see Jax Taylor on Watch What Happens Live! totally shirtless and drenched in five different cocktails? I was kinda living.

    Of course I did.  I never miss Andy's show and to see that hot cast prancing around shirtless...WOW
    Jax really isn't the hottest one though.  He has a great body, but his age is showing a bit of wear and tear.  Unlike some of us.

    Every notice how Wumpy's threads always lead back to food, sex or a combination of both?
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    « Reply #118 on: January 31, 2013, 12:28:17 AM »
    but his age is showing a bit of wear and tear.

    His bio says he's 29 though in one scene on the show I think his friends referred to him as 33, but whatever. Perfect age as far as I'm concerned as he doesn't look like some twinkie fairy like the other guy.

    When did you morph into a sad ageist along the lines of Theodore?

    Also, cocks
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    « Reply #119 on: January 31, 2013, 12:32:23 AM »



    1 Elephant
    2 rabbits (optional)
    2 large onions
    BRown Gravy
    1 cup each of salt and pepper
    1 clove of garlic


    So Willy, did you commit a fraud when you submitted this recipe for our cookbook?  One cup of salt...oh my

    Uhh no. If you could read at even a third grade level you would notice that I stated " I use salt...only if need be in cooking".  This recipe above qualifies as "in cooking". And in this particular recipe salt is mandatory because of the 2 rabbits.



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    « Reply #120 on: January 31, 2013, 02:27:26 AM »
    Uhh no. If you could read at even a third grade level you would notice that I stated " I use salt...only if need be in cooking".  This recipe above qualifies as "in cooking". And in this particular recipe salt is mandatory because of the 2 rabbits.


    More lies. 

    Since this thread should be called Blood, Lies, and the Intrawebz here's a pictar of the lovely Giovanna Plowman.

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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #121 on: January 31, 2013, 07:31:04 AM »
    I will have to dig for another lie about not using Salt, probably won't have to dig to deep. As for the photo, wow! Where's is your chest?

    Ann has it, right?  :-X

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    « Reply #122 on: January 31, 2013, 09:27:42 AM »
    Uhh no. If you could read at even a third grade level you would notice that I stated " I use salt...only if need be in cooking".  This recipe above qualifies as "in cooking". And in this particular recipe salt is mandatory because of the 2 rabbits.
    .

    So how do you not ingest salt if it's used in cooking?  Another caveat to your lack of using salt?

    When did you morph into a sad ageist along the lines of Theodore?

    Also, cocks

    Not ageist, just a point of view that his hard partying lifestyle is taking a toll.  I think he looks much older than he really is.  Be it 29 or 39.  That said, I'd definitely take a ride on the Jax Express. ;D
    « Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 09:30:29 AM by wolfter »
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    « Reply #123 on: January 31, 2013, 10:03:52 AM »
    So how do you not ingest salt if it's used in cooking?


    Seriously? You REALLY need to attend a remedial reading comprehension class at your local community college. Where do I say "I do not ingest salt" in this statement..

    I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy
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    « Reply #124 on: January 31, 2013, 10:06:21 AM »
    Seriously? You REALLY need to attend a remedial reading comprehension class at your local community college. Where do I say "I do not ingest salt" in this statement..

    I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy

    Now you've gone and hurt my delicate sensibilities.  Therefore, I hesitate to articulate on the true course of rectitude for the fear of deviation.   :-[
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    « Reply #125 on: January 31, 2013, 11:16:56 AM »

    I dont even have a salt shaker at the table. I dont add salt to much of anything, only in cooking if need be, such as gravy


    Look girl, you don't add salt "at the table" because all you eat is take out and drive through. Nobody is impressed with your sodium intake claim. It's laughable.
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    « Reply #126 on: January 31, 2013, 06:39:42 PM »
    "
    « Last Edit: January 31, 2013, 07:17:03 PM by WillyWump »
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    « Reply #127 on: January 31, 2013, 06:46:48 PM »
    I bet that BBQ sauce (of which there is too much) is swimming in sodium. And such mayo overkill with both potato salad and cole slaw. Weren't there other choices?

    Note: please keep you food pictures in the appropriate Nutrition thread thankuverymuch

    ps: about to make a 3-egg and country ham omelet!
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    « Reply #128 on: January 31, 2013, 06:51:03 PM »
    I bet that BBQ sauce (of which there is too much) is swimming in sodium. And such mayo overkill with both potato salad and cole slaw. Weren't there other choices?



    Please. what would you know about BBQ sauce. Leave the saucin' to us Texans. There's no mayo in that Cole Slaw, it's vinegar based ::)




    ps:  country ham

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    « Reply #129 on: January 31, 2013, 06:54:05 PM »
    Please. what would you know about BBQ sauce. Leave the saucin' to us Texans.

    I know enough to tell you that East Carolina style BBQ is superior, that's what. And if you'd ever exhibited one ounce of food knowledge during your years here extolling faux-tacos via Cairo we might be able to have a sane discussion, but alas that is not nor ever will be the case.


    That's a shit load of Sodium Ghurl!

    Well duh. But I am not the one making any claims here about my sodium intake so kindly turn off the self-projection and worry about yours.
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    « Reply #130 on: January 31, 2013, 06:57:43 PM »
    I know enough to tell you that East Carolina style BBQ is superior, that's what. And if you'd ever exhibited one ounce of food knowledge during your years here extolling faux-tacos via Cairo we might be able to have a sane discussion, but alas that is not nor ever will be the case.

    You wanna take that blaspehmous mouth of yours over to the Nutrition thread so we can finish this proper?
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    « Reply #131 on: January 31, 2013, 06:58:03 PM »
    Note: please keep you food pictures in the appropriate Nutrition thread thankuverymuch


    I'm gonna report this pitiful thread so that it is merged with the "Nutrition" topic.  Who does La Wumpetta think that she is to have two separate threads about the same bullshit?
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    « Reply #132 on: January 31, 2013, 06:59:32 PM »
    You wanna take that blaspehmous mouth of yours over to the Nutrition thread so we can finish this proper?

    Most Southerners will tell you that BBQ=pork, not beef. The only ones that disagree are the ones that think cowboy boots are Southern.

    I'm gonna report this pitiful thread so that it is merged with the "Nutrition" topic.  Who does La Wumpetta think that she is to have two separate threads about the same bullshit?

    It's all the blow she used to do in the gay clubs so she wasn't forced to contemplate the vagina waiting for her at home. Swelled up her head and lowered an already low IQ.
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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #133 on: January 31, 2013, 07:14:13 PM »
    That's a good point about going off on a (gratuitous) food tangent in this thread. It's in the Living section and about a subject which many of our newer members may need guidance on.

    That guidance really doesn't include photos or details of specific meals - meals they shouldn't be eating before fasting bloods anyway.

    Start posting your food stuff back in the Off Topic thread, please. If I have time tomorrow I might just split some of this thread out and stick it in the other thread.

    Please try to remember what forum you're posting in, guys.

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    « Reply #134 on: January 31, 2013, 07:17:42 PM »
    That's a good point about going off on a (gratuitous) food tangent in this thread. It's in the Living section and about a subject which many of our newer members may need guidance on.

    That guidance really doesn't include photos or details of specific meals - meals they shouldn't be eating before fasting bloods anyway.

    Start posting your food stuff back in the Off Topic thread, please. If I have time tomorrow I might just split some of this thread out and stick it in the other thread.

    Please try to remember what forum you're posting in, guys.

    Thanks. ;)

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    « Reply #135 on: January 31, 2013, 08:20:44 PM »
    Yes ma'am ;) I deleted the pic, and thats why I directed P over to Nutrition.

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    « Reply #136 on: January 31, 2013, 08:54:25 PM »
    Now you've gone and hurt my delicate sensibilities.  Therefore, I hesitate to articulate on the true course of rectitude for the fear of deviation.   :-[
    THE quote of the day.
     :) ;) ;D
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    « Reply #137 on: January 31, 2013, 11:10:20 PM »
    Yes ma'am ;) I deleted the pic, and thats why I directed P over to Nutrition.

    Do I need to remind you of what was said earlier -- even though you tried to be sly and say that you were totally conscious as you were getting pricked:

    Girl are you striving to be like Kris Kardashian?  You already have one thread about food.  It is not all about you on these forums.

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    « Reply #138 on: January 31, 2013, 11:23:51 PM »
    To get this thread back on track if they're doing a free testosterone test you're required to fast for 14 hours beforehand.  Everyone seemed to be saying you don't need to fast but it depends on which type of test they're doing.

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    THE quote of the day.
     :) ;) ;D
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    oops, sorry Ann, skipped reading before posting. my bad.
    (but it was funny) :-[ ;)

    Now why would you reckon I speak with a southern accent? ;)  Ohio River folk have their own dialect.  Not quite southern and definitely not yank.

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    « Reply #140 on: February 01, 2013, 08:14:37 PM »
    To get this thread back on track if they're doing a free testosterone test you're required to fast for 14 hours beforehand.  Everyone seemed to be saying you don't need to fast but it depends on which type of test they're doing.

    Oh great. Now yall saying I gotta fast for the Testo tests ::)

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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #141 on: February 02, 2013, 06:29:23 PM »
    You do not need to fast for a blood draw for testosterone, get it taken AM if possible, when your testosterone will be at its highest highest.

    See:

    http://www.labtestsonline.org.uk/understanding/analytes/testosterone/tab/sample

    Fasting for cholesterol and blood glucose is sometimes requested but not essential except in specific circumstances, eg a previous unfasted test is alarming, special investigations indicated. The only exception here could be triglycerides, which are recommended tested when fasted. Which means it might make practical sense to fast before testing for cholesterol if they do the blood draw for several tests all in one session.

    My rule of thumb is to get all test done at the same time of day, under the same food conditions, otherwise you can't establish a trend that's worth looking at. At my GP this is always first thing AM, at clinic after lunch. My cholesterol and blood glucose are always higher at clinic but not significantly.

    Coffee/tea without milk or sugar are not food and do not count as breaking a fast. It's fat, sugar or protein (erm, bacon) that count here.

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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #142 on: February 18, 2013, 11:14:25 PM »
    I bumped this, after reading this article today.  The study isn't perfect, but still interesting.


    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/13/news/la-heb-fasting-eat-blood-lipid-test-20121112

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    Re: Do I Need to Fast for Any of these Tests?
    « Reply #143 on: February 19, 2013, 01:50:57 AM »
    I've gotten in the habit of fasting for 12 hours before any of my bloodwork, even if it isn't required.

    My ID doc prints the blood work forms and they have a barcode for the collection facility (I use the one at the hospital since they accept my insurance, plus the results are in the system for my next visit a week later).

    If you aren't sure, just ask. My ID doc is really good that way, I have called and he has called back that same day after office hours.

     


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